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    Apple MacBook Pro Review (T7500)

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    by Kevin O'Brien

    The Apple MacBook Pro is the 15.4" notebook aimed to compete with other desktop replacement or road warrior notebooks on the market. This notebook combines a thin stylish aluminum body, sleek port layout, and hearty specs to handle most of your desktop duties. Combine this notebook with Boot Camp, and you have a major contender in the notebook market, being able to run all the key operating systems in the market being Mac OSX and Windows XP or Vista.


    Our MacBook Pro has the following specifications:

    • Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard
    • Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2GHz (4MB L2 cache, 800MHz frontside bus)
    • 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    • 120GB 5400rpm SATA hard disk (also tested with 128GB SSD from DVNation)
    • 15.4" glossy widescreen TFT LED backlit display (1440 x 900)
    • NVIDIA 8600M GT w/ 128MB
    • iSight webcam
    • AirPort Extreme WiFi (IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n) and Bluetooth
    • DVI, 2 USB, ExpressCard/34, Audio in/out, Firewire 400 and 800, 1Gb Ethernet,
    • Dimensions : 01 x 14.1 x 9.6 inches
    • Weight: 5.4 pounds
    • 60Whr Battery, 6 hours estimated
    • 85W MagSafe power adapter with cable management system

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    Build and Design

    The design of the MacBook Pro is very elegant and professional looking with its aluminum shell and sleek port layout. Every detail of this notebook has been thought over, and all of its external connections blend in almost unnoticed when not in use. The overall design of the notebook is very clean, lacking any high spots like feet or switches that might stick out to snag inside a carrying case.

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    Build quality is above average, with its all metal design. With many heavily plastic notebooks, users may notice creaking depending on how you are holding the notebook, and this is entirely absent on the Macbook Pro. While I wouldn't go as far as saying it is above the quality of highend business notebooks, it does surpass almost all consumer grade notebooks. Body flex is minimal, and the screen lid is strong enough to prevent ripples on the LCD with strong pressure on the back cover.

    Display

    Screen quality on the MacBook Pro is above average, with excellent lighting and vibrant colors. The screen backlight levels were very bright, keeping my comfortable viewing level around 30-40% in the office. With it cranked up to the max it was very intense. Black levels were very good; with minimal leakage appear in dark scenes. Viewing angles were excellent, and it had a very broad viewing range before colors started to invert.

    Keyboard and Touchpad

    The keyboard on the MacBook Pro is very spacious, almost to the point of being too spaced out compared to other keyboards I am used to. Key feedback was nice, much better than the small movement found on the Macbook. The typing surface was very well supported, having no flex even when pressing firmly on the keys.

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    One big perk to the MacBook Pro is the backlit keyboard, letting you find various keys even in very dark settings. I enjoyed this feature, although I usually set it to the minimum brightness since that was all that I needed to find my way around the keyboard.

    Performance and Benchmarks

    The MacBook Pro performed very well, in both Mac OS 10.5 as well as Windows Vista. Gaming was not a problem, with the NVIDIA 8600M GT graphics card letting me enjoy games such as Portal at native screen resolution with high settings.

    This review model also included a 128GB Memoright SSD from DVNation, which added quite a bit in terms of performance for this notebook. As you will see below the PCMark05 score and the HDtune shot, the scores were higher than a stock MacBook Pro.

    3DMark06 comparison results for graphics performance:

    Notebook 3DMark06 Score
    Apple MacBook Pro (2.2GHz Intel T7500, Nvidia 8600M GT 128MB)
    3,321 3DMarks
    HP Pavilion dv6700t (1.66GHz Intel T5450, Nvidia 8400M GS 256MB) 1,556 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1525 (2.0GHz Intel T7250, Intel X3100)
    545 3DMarks
    Sony VAIO NR (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100)
    504 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1530 (2.20GHz Intel T7500, Nvidia 8600M GT 256MB) 4,332 3DMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1520 (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA 8600M GT) 2,905 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS 128MB) 1,408 3DMarks
    Samsung Q70 (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7300 and nVidia 8400M G GPU) 1,069 3DMarks
    Asus F3sv-A1 (Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0GHz, Nvidia 8600M GS 256MB) 2,344 3DMarks
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB 2,183 3DMarks
    Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Xi 1526 (1.66GHz Core Duo, nVidia 7600Go 256 MB) 2,144 3DMarks
    Samsung X60plus (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo T7200, ATI X1700 256MB) 1,831 3DMarks
    Asus A6J (1.83GHz Core Duo, ATI X1600 128MB) 1,819 3DMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16 GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 827 3DMarks


    PCMark05 measures overall notebook performance:

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    Apple MacBook Pro (2.2GHz Intel T7500, Nvidia 8600M GT 128MB)
    5,864 PCMarks
    HP Pavilion dv6700t (1.66GHz Intel T5450, Nvidia 8400M GS 256MB) 3,386 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1525 (2.0GHz Intel T7250, Intel X3100) 4,149 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1530 (2.20GHz Intel T7500, Nvidia 8600M GT 256MB) 5,412 PCMarks
    Dell Inspiron 1520 (2.0GHz Intel T7300, NVIDIA 8600M GT) 4,616 PCMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, NVIDIA GeForce Go 8400M GS) 4,591 PCMarks
    Sony VAIO NR (1.5GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5250, Intel X3100) 3,283 PCMarks
    Lenovo ThinkPad X61 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 4,153 PCMarks
    Lenovo 3000 V200 (2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T7300, Intel X3100) 3,987 PCMarks
    Lenovo T60 Widescreen (2.0GHz Intel T7200, ATI X1400 128MB) 4,189 PCMarks
    HP dv6000t (2.16GHz Intel T7400, NVIDA GeForce Go 7400) 4,234 PCMarks
    Fujitsu N6410 (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400) 3,487 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597 PCMarks
    Sony VAIO SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400, Nvidia Go 7400) 3,646 PCMarks


    HDTune results:

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    Ports and Features

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    Left: MagSafe Power, 1 USB, Headphone/Mic, ExpressCard/34

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    Right: Kensington Lock Slot, 1 USB, FireWire 400, FireWire 800, LAN, DVI

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    Rear: None

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    Heat and Noise

    One downside to an all aluminum design is the entire notebook acts as one gigantic heatsink. Gaming with this notebook should not be done without wearing pants, which I quickly found out while playing Portal. The bottom of the notebook gets extremely hot, reaching 111 degrees Fahrenheit at its peak. Much of this heat stayed with the notebook during the entire gaming session, and didn't let up until system was back at the desktop at idle. The temperatures of the MacBook Pro far exceed the average for any other notebook we have tested to date, which is surprising since it is not the fastest or most powerful machine we have used. Below are images with temperature listed in degrees Fahrenheit.

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    Fan noise during stressful activities was noticeable, but still not as bad as other notebooks. When browsing the web or doing other light work, the fan was off most of the time, or very quiet.

    Battery and Power

    Apple claimed six hours of battery life with the MacBook Pro, and I think they were off by a good amount compared to my normal notebook use. With wireless enabled, screen brightness around 40 percent and on the balanced power profile I couldn't break 3 hours and 40 minutes. This power range was similar between both Mac OS and Windows Vista through Boot Camp. Gaming brought the battery life down even further, into the 1 hour and 30 minute range, and most of the power could felt through your legs with the heat the notebook threw out.


    Conclusion

    The Apple MacBook Pro is a decent contender against other notebooks in the 15.4" segment with quality display and powerful internals. Having the upper hand against other computers being able to legally run both OSX and Vista does give it some strength, but I am not sure that will outweigh the disadvantage of leg griddle capabilities.

    Pros

    • Sturdy aluminum chassis
    • Solid performance, can even play modern games
    • Works out of the box with Windows Vista

    Cons

    • Belches out heat like nobody's business
    • Battery life claims are far off from real world results
    • No extended battery option
     
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  2. martynas

    martynas Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    good review, thanx kevin.
    one of the biggest disappointments for me in macs is ... keyboard - there is so much empty space, so why they merged "pgup", "pgdn", "home" and "end" keys with arrows? it is so uncomfortable, when typing long texts...

    EDIT: and performance of SSD is awesome (at 82mb/s average speed), wish I had one :)
     
  3. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Nice review. I have been floating the idea of adding Mac for some time. That darn song for the MacAir almost has me hooked.

    Its kind of amusing to think the total price of the system with the SSD would be roughly $5200 and I am surprised at the PCMark05 score with the SSD. It is the first comparable I have found for my system after looking long and hard.

    As nice as it is, Im still surprised that my score of 6224 upscales the tested systems of 5864, my system being a XPS M1330 which has a lesser CPU (T7300) and graphics card (8400m). I believed the graphics card would have been what was holding me back from getting an even higher score.
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  4. Hawk7886

    Hawk7886 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, would you be comfortable saying that gaming with the NVIDIA 8600M GT graphics card was a HUGE SUCCESS?

    Anyway, this cake is great. It's so delicious and moist.
     
  5. astudentis

    astudentis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh apple just released 2.4Ghz (penryn), 256 vram 6600GT modle as the baseline pro! i wanna see the performance on those... i am guessing similar to the midline pros of the santa rosa generation?
     
  6. unnamed01

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    Nice review! Can't wait for a review of the new model...

    I'm glad apple decided to drop the 128mb baseline model, and dropping the price I might actually get one now.
     
  7. ypasco

    ypasco Newbie

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    great review...
    so you confirm that using XP with a mac has several troubles :

    1 - heat, heat, heat.... i did not have those complaints from OSX users
    2 - battery life....

    thxs
    yann
     
  8. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Well the heat happened during gaming... so good luck getting the OSX setup doing that :p

    Encoding video would be another area that could warm it up in OSX, but it was only really during stressful activities.
     
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    shk747 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi,
    where is a review with 2.6ghz and also the 17" with all options ?
     
  10. LongOfTooth

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    Regarding the heat issue: By any chance did you take heat readings when the hard drive was out and the 128GB Memoright SSD was in?

    If you did I'd be interested in knowing if there was a difference and if so what it was.

    Thanks
     
  11. kitkatherine

    kitkatherine Newbie

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    Yeah.....The heat.
    It'll burn your legs - my boyfriend has the scars to show it.
    I hated my 15.4" MacBook Pro so much I sold it. :D
     
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    What about the audio?
     
  13. LycanNyc

    LycanNyc Notebook Consultant

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    Well, as far as I can understand those temps in the review show F.. convert those to C and it'll be less than 43 C , the 111F = 43C ..
    My HP Portable HD runs at 45c-48c idle and 55 full load and its burning me. Now thats hot.
    I dont think the MBP temps in the picture shows any sign of being hot.
    Those temps are actually desktop temps level since desktop tend to run cooler.
    I've been wanting to get me a mbp