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    Apple Announces New MacBook Pro, MacBook, and MacBook Air

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by dietcokefiend, Oct 14, 2008.

  1. dietcokefiend

    dietcokefiend DietGreenTeaFiend

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    Apple just released a complete refresh to the Macbook Pro as well as a new upgraded Macbook. Both of these notebooks offer a revolutionary solid brick manufacturing process similar to the Macbook Air, where the notebook body is formed from a single block of aluminum. This new body is lighter and stronger than the previous body and frame. A new feature unique to both of these models are a larger glass surface multitouch touchpad where the entire surface is your touchpad button, no longer needing a separate control. Users lose any tactile feedback, but at least they won’t have problems finding that single button.

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    $1,999 MacBook Pro Specifications:

    • 15.4” LED-backlit display
    • 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (3MB L2 Cache)
    • 2 GB 1066MHz DDR3 memory
    • Hybrid Graphics (NVIDIA 9400M Integrated/ 9600M Dedicated with 256MB)
    • 250GB Hard Drive
    • Slot-Loading SuperDrive

    $2,499 MacBook Pro Specifications:

    • 15.4” LED-backlit display
    • 2.53GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (6MB L2 Cache)
    • 4 GB 1066MHz DDR3 memory
    • Hybrid Graphics (NVIDIA 9400M Integrated/ 9600M Dedicated with 512MB)
    • 320GB Hard Drive
    • Slot-Loading SuperDrive

    The new Apple MacBook Pro also offers an easier solution for accessing both the hard drive and battery bay, with a single opening on the bottom of the case. Unlike the last design which required you to completely tear apart the notebook to upgrade or replace the hard drive, this method take only a matter of minutes.
    The MacBook Air was also given a model refresh, bumping from the older Intel X3100 integrated graphics to the newer NVIDIA 9400M integrated graphics.

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    $1,799 MacBook Air Specifications:

    • 13.3” LED-backlit display
    • NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics
    • 1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (6MB L2 Cache)
    • 2 GB 1006 MHz DDR3 memory
    • 120GB SATA hard drive

    $2,499 MacBook Air Specifications:

    • 13.3” LED-backlit display
    • NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics
    • 1.86GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (6MB L2 Cache)
    • 2 GB 1006 MHz DDR3 memory
    • 128GB SSD

    The bread and butter Macbook also saw a model refresh with an upgraded 13.3” model that looks like a shrunked MacBook Pro. This model offers the same solid aluminum block carved down to a lightweight chassis design, as well as the all-glass multitouch touchpad.

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    $1,299 MacBook Specifications:

    • 13.3” LED-backlit display
    • 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (3MB L2 Cache)
    • 2 GB 1066MHz DDR3
    • NVIDIA GeForice 9400M Integrated Graphics
    • 160GB hard drive
    • Slot-loading SuperDrive

    The standard MacBook will still be offered for a $100 lower price starting at $999. Overall the new models look impressive with the newer chassis design, which should offer much stronger notebooks. The move to super glossy screen overlays and no touchpad buttons will be interesting, but I will hold back any comments until I see it in person.

     
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  2. chipmoney

    chipmoney Notebook Evangelist

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    They look nice, but I'm not so sure about the trackpad.
     
  3. nomoredell

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    where is that $799 macbook ?
    oh, no. just a rumor. price up $200 on 13.3.
     
  4. KamiCrazy

    KamiCrazy Notebook Geek

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    I had some doubts about buying my MBP back in september due to the impending refresh.

    But now that I've actually seen it, I don't think it either really matters nor did I miss out on anything due to it.
     
  5. Xirurg

    Xirurg ORLY???

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    ^sorry,but i didn't got you.


    Still,those notebooks are very very very cool!!!
     
  6. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The new MBP is actually heavier than its predecessor lol.
     
  7. chen

    chen Notebook Deity

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    They really know how to make people buy one....imo, the prices are a little bit too high for the specifications....but I will be looking at the configurations after they fix the typos on the store site
     
  8. renhoelder

    renhoelder Notebook Enthusiast

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    I´m eager to read reviews for the new macs. No it`s just a decision whether to go for the Pro or regular.
     
  9. Clayton

    Clayton Notebook Geek

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    I'm excited about the all aluminum design.
     
  10. eleron911

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    So the 9600M is the max...no big surprise for me honestly :)
     
  11. htn1042

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    any idea how on long it takes for these to reach retailer stores like best buy or frys?
     
  12. renhoelder

    renhoelder Notebook Enthusiast

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    I´m pretty fine with that actually. The 8600 was a bit of an poor performer, but this one seems to be better. I didn`t expect Apple to put in 9800 or 4850.

    The one thing I´m kinda dissapointed in is the batterylife, I was hoping for a tad more. But a claimed 5h with a 9600gt Hybrid is still pretty good imo.
     
  13. mrXniick

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    They have officially killed the macbook pro for me.

    I have always hated the new style keyboard and loved the older keyboard on the pro. Also.. no more matte screen = (
     
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    I'm glad they didn't kill those with tapered edges like the Air as some rumors suggested, so at least I won't hate them.

    However, I don't see an option for a matte screen which was a big advantage for the MBP, at least for me. Not exactly a fan of this type of keyboard either.

    Otherwise, no surprises really.
     
  15. ascariss

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    well the design is no surprise, iphone/ipod touch meet the macbook air. not a fan of the design, still drab like the older designs. but that is not what is putting me off, the price is and if you ask me it's way too much. I speced a 13 inch macbook on the canadian site and it came out to 2 grand, for such a price I could have a much better 15 inch or even a proper 13 inch from sony.

    I was waiting to see what apple would introduce, guess I waited for nothing. :p
     
  16. jsis

    jsis Notebook Evangelist

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    So much for "investing" a new manufacturing technology.
     
  17. Luke1708

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    aaaaagh!!!!! its £100 more expensive than the previous generation!!!!!.but never mind, the wait got rewardeD!!!!!! thanks apple!!!! you ROCK!!!!!! add me to the list of new macbook pro owners!!!!!
     
  18. jsis

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    Apple has officially finished its transition of fully catering to the average consumer, while abandoning features of what makes their pro products professional in many ways.
     
  19. scythie

    scythie I died for your sins.

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    They dropped the 17" MBP?
     
  20. Jayayess1190

    Jayayess1190 Waiting on Intel Cannonlake

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    I like the new Macbook. It is priced perfectly to fight the Sony Vaio SR and HP DV3500T (the main two Centrino 2 notebooks with dedicated graphics, LED screens, and dedicated graphics).
     
  21. tastybeef

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    The new Macbook line looked attractive until I saw the price and gagged.
     
  22. arch983

    arch983 Notebook Consultant

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    No, they will give the 17" one a refresh also according to Jobs in the WWDC, it will just be a little later though is all.
     
  23. Red_Dragon

    Red_Dragon Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    LOL i told everyone that the macbook would be about $1300-$1400 with the nvidia GPU and it looks like i was right :D how is this gonna work with windows without the buttons? i guess you have to hook up a mouse now for certain.
     
  24. arch983

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    I am extremely upset about no inclusion of the HDMI port as that is one port I am loving. According to Jobs it does not support the 30" monitor so that is why he did not include it, but why not have HDMI and mini monitor port?? so us media freaks can be satisfied also.

    Also they did not include blue-ray as an option and that is upsetting. Something about too much head aches for consumers due to licensing, whatever.

    Other than that it's pretty cool machine.
     
  25. arch983

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    It will hit the stores by tomorrow according to Jobs.
     
  26. ozydingo

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    Did I just miss it or do they not say what model # processor is used?
     
  27. kkl1014

    kkl1014 Notebook Consultant

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    The full DisplayPort spec supports HDMI and DVI through adapters. It carries full 7.1 channel audio too.

    I was hoping for a sub-$900 Macbook. Would've finally convinced me to make the switch. As it is now, I'm waiting for Windows 7.
     
  28. ladip63

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    MBP looks good i think I'm going to wait for a review then I'll see. I still want a MBP so I guess it really doesn't matter. I need to upgrade from an old 2003 computer anyway. To be continued....
    Lynn
     
  29. jonlumpkin

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    They didn't drop it, it just hasn't been refreshed.

    The switch to universal LED technology and DisplayPort is the one thing I find intriguing. The main specs are finally in line with PCs (Montevina platform is now standard, 13.3 macbook now tops out with the same processor as my far lighter and better [in my opinion] Thinkpad x200). They could actually get good battery life out of these things if they would just drop in a real battery (The Macbook claims 5 hours with a 45 WHr battery [the only option], while the x200 ranges from 3 to 9 hours depending on the battery used [I get close to 9 with a 84 WHr battery]), I know this would damage their clean lines, but I think it is something they should look into.

    Does anyone know much about the performance of the NVidia 9400M. I know it is an integrated processor and is clearly better than the x3100, but how does it compare to the x4500. Please lay off the Intel GPUs suck comments, and focus on performance. The x4500 is good for HD video decoding and light gaming, is the NVidia 9400M better, or does it just have an NVidia badge without any real improved performance?

    It's about time apple dropped the touchpad button. If you are only going to have a one button interface, and a giant trackpad, it makes sense to ditch the button(s). I personally prefer, and will stick to forever if possible, the Thinkpad trackpoint with a left, right, and scroll modifier, but that is in large part because most PC touchpads are way too small to be of any use (you have to constantly lift your finger and start over to get anywhere). The touchpads on the new Macbooks may actually prove useful due to the crazy real estate and multi-touch interface.
     
  30. arch983

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    I honestly do not think anyone will notice 0.10 pounds of a difference, but hey, I could be wrong. For all those thin freaks, it is only .95 inches thin.
     
  31. Micaiah

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    Well, that sucks. I loved the previous MBP's matte screen. I wonder how the new cases will hold up; I really liked my Santa Rosa MBP until the casing started warping.
     
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    I don't like dongles at all. I think when one buys a machine it should be fully equipped and end of story especially for the money. they should have had an hdmi port next to the mini display port and i believe this to be a huge miss on apple's part as the new trend for a while now is hdmi on notebooks. Not having it is a definite step backwards. I understand they are minimalists, but what is up with their lack of ports? I never understood that mentality.

    Like I said everything is good about this computer, but only those two areas are downers. (blueray and hdmi)
     
  33. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    MacBook Air, useless and pretty as ever. :p
     
  34. JamesW

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    I am very glad I did not wait for the new MBP and went for the Sager 5793.

    I think many people are very disappointed when they only included the 9600GT for the asking price. No matte screen also a big boo-boo in my books.

    I won't be surprised to see a lot of MBs on the campus though.
     
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    $1299 for the MacBook with a 2GHz Core 2 Duo and INTEGRATED graphics STILL. Hilarious.

    Seriously. Hilarious.
     
  36. unnamed01

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    The 9400m is still better than a HMDX4500(sp?lol). Anyone know if the CPU is the MBP is using the Pxxxx series of the Txxxx series? Kinda sucks that the MBP and the MB look the same...makes people with MBPs feel less special :p

    EDIT: Also they look A LOT like the M15x no?
     
  37. jonlumpkin

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    They all use new Montevina platform Intel Chips.

    The Macbook uses the Intel P series chips (based on frequency, FSB, and cache size). P8400 (2.4GHz/3MB) is the max available.

    The Macbook Air uses the Intel S series chips (based on frequency, FSB). SL9400 (1.86GHz/6MB) is the max available.

    The Macbook Pro uses the Intel P and T series (based on frequency, FSB, cache) and the T9600 (2.8 Ghz/6MB) is the best available.
     
  38. Jayayess1190

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    Backlit keyboard is only available on P8600 version of the Macbook. Not cool.
     
  39. kkl1014

    kkl1014 Notebook Consultant

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    I just tried configuring the P8400 Macbook and it does have a backlit keyboard standard.
     
  40. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    The cheapest Macbook has P7350 and does not have backlit keyboard, according to the Apple website.
     
  41. angelicvoices

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    So much for the new competitive pricing that can't be beat.. didn't think it was going to happen though, so can't claim surprise.
     
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    The big disappointment is that Apple didn't push the price barrier down, the hardware looks quite nice of course, though I'm dubious on the buttonless touchpad.

    Everyone has been holding their breath for Apple to scoop up more market share by making the price more accessible. Given people are being more cost conscious these days these new MacBooks won't sell terribly well. The $999 on the old MacBook might actually mean you see more of those being sold than the new one. They really should have striven to get the old MB price down to $899 though.

    Don't get me wrong, you'll see these new MB popping up at your local Starbucks soon. There are many out there that can justify the leap to $1,299 from $999 because, hey, it's new and only 30% more for price of entry.
     
  43. kkl1014

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    I'm not referring to the reduced price white Macbook. The 1299 2.0ghz Macbook offers a backlit keyboard, at least on the configuration page. I don't know if it's a typo or not on the page.

    [​IMG]
     
  44. maceto

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    hmmmmmmmmm


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    VS

    MacBook Pro, 15", Aluminium
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    I know, not the same but common....almost 500 pounds more for the mac... vs a dell XPS
     
  45. Phil

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    Oh right. I was talking about the preconfigured models here in Europe.
     
  46. Mippoose

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    The 9400m will significantly outperform the X4500.

    The 8200/8300 780G/790FX both outperform the G45 by a lot, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a 9400 doing even better than that. ;]
     
  47. escape

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    what is the display res on these mac books?

    1280 x 800???
     
  48. Dreamer

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    Yes, WXGA only.
     
  49. Jiten

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    Ugh, I can live with the glossy screen but I was at least expecting a high res option.
     
  50. Phinagle

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    Does an integrated 9400M and dedicated 9600M benefit from GeForceBoost or just HybridPower?
     
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