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    Alienware Area-51 m5790 Review

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    by Eric Schroeder

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    The Alienware Area-51 m5790 is a 17&quot; desktop replacement style gaming notebook that is available exclusively via Alienware.com. This is an update to last year's m5750. The differences are just newly added upgradeable features such as Blu-Ray and the Radeon x1900 video card, along with, of course, Windows Vista in all flavors. Windows XP is, unfortunately, no longer available even as an option. This is a slight problem since it's well known that Vista isn't as good as XP for gaming at this moment. So if you're getting this for gaming, you may want to uninstall Vista and put XP on for the time being.

    Following are the specs of the m5790 as reviewed:

    • Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5600 1.83GHz 2MB Cache 667MHz FSB
    • Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
    • Display: Alienware m5790 17&quot; WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD - Saucer Silver
    • Motherboard: Alienware Intel 945PM + ICH7 Chipset
    • Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz - 2 x 1024MB
    • Hard Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 80GB Serial ATA 1.5Gb/s 5,400 RPM w/ NCQ &amp; 8MB Cache
    • Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 8X Dual Layer DVD+/-RW / 24X CD-RW Combo w/Nero Software
    • Video/Graphics Card: 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon x1800
    • Sound Card: Intel 7.1 High-Definition Audio
    • Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel PRO Wireless 3945 a/b/g Mini-Card
    • Communications: Integrated 10/1000Mb Gigabit Ethernet &amp; 56K V.92 Modem
    • Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service
    • AlienRespawn: Alienware Respawn Recovery Kit
    • Order Total: $1,842.28 *

    *Note - This price reflects the configuration with 1GB RAM. I knew going in that I wanted 2GB RAM, but Alienware charges $270 as an upgrade option for that. I purchased 2GB from Newegg.com for $169 and installed myself. I'll sell the two 512mb modules on eBay and come close to breaking even. Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of electronics and computers can do this simple upgrade.

    These models currently start at $1,299, which is a pretty good price for a well configured notebook like this. If you max it out with the T7600G Core Duo, Blu-Ray drive, 2GB purchased from Alienware, the Radeon x1900 video card, TV tuner, dual hard drives in a RAID config and Windows Vista Ultimate, the price soars to over $4,000!

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    Reason for Buying:

    I had both a high-end desktop and a light travel sized (14.1&quot;) notebook. I do promotional marketing which takes me on the road for 2-3 months at a time a couple of times a year. So while at home, I used my desktop, but on the road, I had my notebook. With a 24&quot; widescreen monitor at home, I always felt the sacrifice of looking at this small 14-inch the half of the year I was away. I didn't really need a travel sized notebook, but it was cheap at the time and served its purpose.

    I decided to condense and go with one machine to cover all the bases. I'm not an extreme gamer, so while the Radeon x1950 in my desktop was nice, it wasn't being utilized. I pieced out my desktop and sold all the parts on eBay along with the laptop. I knew going in that the only thing I was keeping was my keyboard, mouse, speakers and 24&quot; Dell widescreen monitor. The Dell is DVI, so that was a necessity. I didn't want to downgrade to VGA. I also wanted a beefy machine to replace everything, so I wouldn't feel the pain of a slow notebook all the time.

    I looked at the HP dv9000t, Dell XPS M1710, Toshiba Qosmio &amp; Satellite models and several others before deciding on the Alienware m5790. Dell had the specs, but was way too expensive. HP looked great and was priced well, but had only VGA video output &amp; low end graphics, and the Toshiba Qosmio &amp; Satellite models didn't have the resolution I wanted. The Alienware M5790 offered a screen with 1920 x 1200 resolution (being a pixel junkie, this hit me immediately as something to drool over), DVI video output and up to a Radeon x1900 for graphics. Ok, so I don't game much, but I like the ability to do so when there comes that one or two games that look interesting. I don't want to think, &quot;I shouldn't have gotten rid of my desktop&quot; in times like those.

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    Where and How Purchased:

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    The only way to purchase an Alienware is online. It was pricey at $1,842, but was well worth it. It would be nice to see this in person first like the HP and Toshiba models I was looking at, but I read some reviews, made some choices and decided to roll the dice and see what happened.

    The Alienware site is easy to navigate and the upgrade options are clearly laid out so you can see what the current price is after each selection. They offer information for just about every option there is so you know what you're selecting. I was tempted to go faster for the CPU, drop dough on the Blu-Ray and get the top video card (Radeon x1900), but this machine is all about accessibility and ease of configuration. I know down the road the prices of all these components will drop and then instead of spending another $1800 to upgrade to the now top stuff, I can get those for maybe $500, $600 a year from now and feel like I have a new machine all over again. More on the accessibility of adding components later.

    Build and Design:

    First off, the laptop looks like no other. I immediately liked the idea of the glowing alien head on the cover along with the shiny silver finish. The paint is smooth, glossy and deep, reminding me of a new car shine. On the plus side, I won't have to spend hours every few weeks to wax it to keep that look.

    Opening it up, you have a full-sized keyboard layout, complete with a separate keypad section. While it's a nice feature to have the keypad, it takes some getting used to since I was used to placing my hands in the middle of all my other notebooks, while this makes you place your hands to the left side to find the proper keys to type. You can see the trackpad isn't centered, but more to the left for that reason. There is a dedicated scroll pad section to act like the 3rd button on your mouse. A nice feature. Several function buttons are placed at the top of the keyboard, which include the power on button. My only complaint here is that the buttons are somewhat more difficult to press than they should be. They are long, but thin, requiring you to use the tip of your finger or perhaps your fingernail to depress them. Also, the mouse buttons seem a bit harder to depress than all the other notebooks I've been used to. When I use the trackpad, I use my index finger to scroll and my left thumb to click. After an hour of web browsing, the side of my thumb seemed a bit sore from having to press harder than normal. Luckily, I almost always use an external mouse, so it won't have an effect on me for the most part.

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    Screen:

    The screen is the cat's meow. I decided to go with the WUXGA display which is the higher resolution option at 1920 x 1200. Like I said, I'm a resolution junkie, so this is like cake to a fat kid. The screen is crisp, clean and vibrant. At first, it seemed a bit dull to me, but it's because I'm so used to my SUPER BRIGHT 24&quot; Dell widescreen (known for being overly bright). The colors are rich and set right. Overall, if you are sitting in front of the machine you should have no complaints. At 1920 x 1200 on a 17&quot; screen, it takes a little playing with to get your eyes used to the small text, but the screen real estate it offers is unbelievable. I run 1920 x 1200 on my Dell monitor, so I didn't want to sacrifice when I'm using the laptop on its own. Since the DPI is greater on the laptop screen than the Dell monitor, photos and text look even sharper. It really has to be seen to be appreciated. Amazingly, looking from a 90 degree angle, I can still see the screen perfectly. LCD technology has really improved from the first monitor I had some 8 years ago.

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    Ports:

    As mentioned, having a DVI video port was essential since I wanted this to replace my desktop, while keeping my external monitor. On the back is the nicely placed DVI port. Nicely placed because some have VGA on the side. These are big cables that should be put away from any work area. The 56k modem port is also on the back, on the other side. On the left side near the back is the power port along with one USB port. In the middle is the optical drive, with the audio ports and volume control at the front side. Unfortunately, that leaves the right side with three USB ports, one Firewire port and the network port. If all are being used, that's a lot of cables coming out of the right side. With most of us being right handed mouse users, it's just something of an annoyance. I like the right side to have the optical drive, maybe 1 USB port and probably the card reader. This way all the cables are coming out of the left. Alienware reversed it here. Boooo! It shouldn't be too much of a hassle for me, though, since I have a USB hub at home, so I'm only using the left side USB port. On the right, only the FireWire port (occasionally) will be used along with the network port. On the road, I'll only have an external mouse which requires a Bluetooth adapter, so again, only the left USB port will be used. The machine has the new ExpressCard/54, so like with all new notebooks, throw away your PCMCIA or PC Card devices. You need something new. Technology always changes. The front has an IR port along with the selector to turn the wireless on or off.

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    Speakers &amp; Sound Card:

    As I said earlier, one of the things I was keeping was my speakers (Altec Lansing ADA-305. Old, but still awesome), so I'm used to BOOM! I wasn't expecting much out of notebook speakers, but wow, these are pretty darn good! My friend heard the volume from a video playing while he was two rooms away, so that's saying something right there. It has an included &quot;subwoofer&quot; at the bottom as well. Now I'm not going to say I can really feel that, considering the fact that it's only about an inch in diameter, but it might be adding in some fill that I'm not immediately recognizing. A nice touch even if it may be a gimmick.

    There is a little scroll wheel on the left side by the audio ports which you roll back and forth to increase or decrease the sound. My old Presario v3000 had touch controls at the top, below the monitor, which was cool, but other than that, most notebooks don't have external audio control buttons. So having this there was an added bonus. Instead of simply &quot;mute&quot; or on, you can control the amount of volume in an instant.

    The only real disappointment with audio is with the sound card itself. I use a program called Tunebite to re-record Napster music so I can get rid of that pesky &quot;protected&quot; label and have them as an MP3, free of any licenses. I use that to transfer to my iPod. When I installed Tunebite, it told me there was no sound card detected. Very odd. I had no problems on my last notebook, so I'm not sure what the problem is here. I'll give tech support a call to see if they have any answers.

    Processor and Performance:

    I had a Core 2 Duo E6600 in my desktop and a Core Duo T2050 in my notebook, so I had to have something comparable to both. Again, I decided to get the T5600, which is a 1.83Ghz Core 2 Duo CPU, knowing that while it's less quick than my desktop CPU was, it's right for the price and I still have the option to upgrade myself later on. Really, in every day applications, there's no performance difference that I can feel. If I can open files quick, start and run Photoshop without a hitch, start and shutdown quickly and feel like I'm not waiting for the machine to catch up to me, I'm happy.

    I typically edit and play with large Photoshop files (30MB and up), do video editing with Adobe Premiere, have 8 or 9 browser pages opened at one time, music playing in iTunes, emails coming in via Outlook, AIM opened, getting messages and Macromedia Dreamweaver going working on websites. I can run a selection of those at once and the machine doesn't even hiccup. I'm going to upgrade to a 7200RPM hard drive soon to remove the last little bottleneck it has. I could have selected the 7200RPM drive when configuring this, but again, I can do it easily and for less than the upgrade would have cost.

    Upgradeability:

    Having had a desktop for so many years, I've grown accustomed to being able to easily upgrade components as they become outdated. Notebooks always annoyed me since they are pretty much as is and can't be upgraded much. Lately, some have been easier to upgrade certain parts, but not to the extent of a desktop. But with this m5790, it takes a step closer. As said before, I chose the midrange components, ones which are cost friendly. There's no need to be the guy who needs the best of everything because tomorrow, it's no longer the best and you're just out a bunch of money in the meantime. There are two panels on the bottom which are easily removable. One is for the primary hard drive. Two screws and off it comes. The drive has two screws holding it in place, take those out and out that comes. You can easily upgrade to a larger or faster drive right there. That's going to be my first upgrade as I get a 7200RPM drive. The other is the plate that covers the CPU, video card, RAM and 2nd hard drive (if added). I took this off to swap out the 1GB with 2GB of RAM. There I noticed the VERY EASY access to the video card and CPU. Upgrading these will be relatively easy compared with other notebooks. In about a year's time when the cost of the x1900 or better is manageable, along with a 2.6Ghz Core 2 Duo, I'll simply replace with those and voila, a like new machine again. I'm sure at that time, the Blu-Ray drive will be cheaper as well (or even HD-DVD if that wins out). For right now, the other upgrade is to add a 2nd hard drive. An upgrade kit had to be ordered from Alienware (consisting of a ribbon cable, hard drive caddy and SATA adapter, plus screws), but it was only $20. It's fun to be able to easily change things you want and customize as you see fit without being at the mercy of the company to do it right there and then for their prices.

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    Benchmarks:

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    Notebook Time
    Alienware m5790 (1.83GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 16s
    MSI M677 (1.8 GHz Turion X2) 1m 53s
    Fujitsu LifeBook N6420 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo) 1m 02s
    LG S1 (2.16 GHz Core Duo) 1m 11s
    Dell Inspiron e1505 (2.0GHz Core Duo) 1m 16s
    Lenovo ThinkPad T60 (2.0GHz Core Duo) 1m 18s
    Toshiba Satellite M100 (2.00GHz Core Duo) 1m 18s
    Samsung X60 (1.66GHz Core Duo) 1m 29s
    Sony VAIO FS680 (1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 53s


    Everest Results:

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    HDTune Results

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    3DMark06 Results and Comparison:

    Notebook 3D Mark 06 Results
    Alienware m5790 (1.83 GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1800 256MB) 2,625
    WidowPC Sting D517D (Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz, Nvidia 7900GTX 512MB) 4,833
    Apple MacBook Pro (2.00GHz Core Duo, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 128MB) 1,528
    Alienware Area 51 m5550 (2.33GHz Core 2 Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7600 256MB) 2,183
    ASUS A8Ja (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 512MB) 1,973
    Dell XPS M1710 (2.16GHz Core Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7900 GTX 512MB) 4,744
    Toshiba Satellite P100-222 (2.16GHz Core Duo, nVidia GeForce Go 7900 GS 512MB) 3,534

     


    PCMark05
    Results

    Notebook PCMark05 Score
    Alienware m5790 (1.83 GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1800 256MB) 4,411 PCMarks
    Fujtisu Siemens Amilo Xi1554 Review (2.0GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1900, Windows XP) 5,066 PCMarks
    Fujitsu LifeBook N6420 (2.00GHz Core 2 Duo, ATI X1600) 4,621 PCMarks
    Fujitsu LifeBook N6410 (1.66GHz Core Duo, ATI X1400) 3,487 PCMarks
    Sony Vaio SZ-110B in Speed Mode (Using Nvidia GeForce Go 7400) 3,637 PCMarks
    Asus Z84Jp (2.16GHz Core 2 Duo, Nvidia Go 7600) 4,739 PCMarks
    Asus V6J (1.86GHz Core Duo T2400) 3,646 PCMarks
    Alienware M7700 (AMD Athlon FX-60, Nvidia Go 7800GTX) 5,597 PCMarks

     

    Heat and Noise:

    For a notebook of this size and power, it's surprisingly quiet. Windows had three settings for power consumption: Power Saver, Balanced and High Performance. On Power Saver mode, it's a whisper. When turned to High Performance, you can hear the fan whirring, but it's nothing that would bother the person sitting next to you in a library. Compared to my desktop with 8 fans, this thing is like a sleeping baby.

    However, as far as heat goes, this notebook does get warm. When I turn it to High Performance to edit Photoshop or Premiere files, I can feel it getting warm to the touch. At home, this is no problem since I have the notebook closed and I'm using an external mouse, keyboard and monitor. Used by itself, it's a little different. My hands will never be cold, that's for sure. I'm curious to see how much warmer it'll get when I add in the 7200RPM drive along with the 2nd drive.

    The CD/DVD-RW drive is as noisy as any other. Laptop drives are always noisy as heck. It's nothing out of the ordinary, though.

    Keyboard and Touchpad:

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    The keyboard and mouse controls are where the only real slight disappointment comes in. It seems when they tried to incorporate the number pad, they in turn shortened and resized some of the other keys. The right shift button is considerably smaller than the left. The &quot;?/&quot; button is very slim as is the period button. The up, down, left and right buttons have been oddly resized as well. There are a few other oddly placed keys when I compare with my desktop keyboard, but nothing that's going to throw me off like the small right shift button or period.

    The other minor annoyance is with the trackpad and mouse buttons. I like to use minimal movement to get the cursor from one side to the other. I have it set to &quot;fast&quot; in the mouse settings, the fastest it can go. Yet, I still have to slide my finger from one side to the other a full three times to get the cursor to go the distance of the screen. I want to say it's the Windows settings, yet when I use my external mouse in the same speed settings, it's just a movement of my wrist, left to right to get it to go the distance. I never have to pick up the bottom of my hand. The trackpad just seems slow. Also, the buttons seem to be overly stiff when clicking. I prefer nice soft sensitive clicks. I almost always use an external mouse though, so it won't be too much of a problem there.

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    Inbut and Output Ports:

    • 4 Hi-speed USB 2.0 ports
    • Express Card Slot /54mm (also 34)
    • IEEE 1394a (4-pin) port
    • 4-in-1 Memory Card Reader (SD / MS / MSPRO / MMC)
    • 1 Headphone Jack
    • 1 Microphone Jack
    • Video out: One DVI Connector
    • TV out: One S-Video out connector
    • Microphone (a nice surprise since it's not mentioned on the site)


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    Wireless:

    I get good signals and strong readings from afar with this notebook. I had a friend with a different brand wireless card built in and while I picked up 8 wireless signals, he only showed 3. Interesting. Granted, some of the 8 were very weak and wouldn't work more than likely even if they weren't WPA protected, but that my notebook saw them and his didn't shows me that this has a nice antenna built in and a strong radio built in to find them. Working at home, I can sit in the other house at the back of our property and still get a low, yet workable signal. This even after going through one wall in the front house, two walls in the garage and one wall in the back house. And realize that our homes aren't just drywall. They were built in the 40's, so they're made of sheet rock and stucco on the outside. Pretty thick, and yet the signal is still picked up. Nice!

    Battery:

    I took a fully charged battery, set the power settings to &quot;Balanced&quot; (with screen brightness to 50%), pulled the power cord and let it go. I did some internet browsing, file editing in Photoshop and file browsing on the hard drive. At 1:04 in, it gave me a warning (17%) and then went into hibernate mode at 1:25 with 5 minutes left. So from what I can conclude, I get about 1:30 out of it. This is why I opted for a 2nd battery. While I don't generally use battery power (when I'm on the road, I use the notebook in the hotel with power), I like to have it available if I need it. 1:30 for a 17&quot; screen with a high end video card isn't terrible, but not outstanding either. The battery is 4400mAH, which is average. They might have been wise to design the notebook with a larger battery to begin with. But really, if someone is buying this, it's not to be a road warrior. It's generally going to be used on a desk, plugged in. That's why it's called a &quot;desktop replacement&quot;. The one fear I have with the battery is the physical design, though. It attaches by two small plastic clips which click in to hold the battery, similar to the latch that holds the screen down. With my 2nd battery in my bag, I'm scared that one or both of these clips might break off. Without those, the battery would have nothing to secure itself. Yikes. Again, a better battery design would be helpful here.

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    Operating System and Software:

    As said before, with the introduction of Windows Vista, Alienware does not offer Windows XP on this machine any longer, not even as a requested option. Due to the problems with Vista and gaming, that's too bad since this is toted as a gaming machine. True, Vista will come around and be better than XP ever was, but right now it can't be said so. Alienware should still have that option for those who wish to stay with XP for now. I know quite a few people who would NEVER be early adopters for something as crucial as an operating system.

    One big positive with this as opposed to my old Compaq Presario, my niece's Toshiba Satellite and others is that Alienware does not add on all that proprietary &quot;bloat ware&quot; crap software that just bogs the whole system down. It feels like I did the install myself. Only the essential Windows software is there. I love that.

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    Customer Support:

    I haven't had to deal with support yet. I did call a few times before receiving my machine to ask general questions. Once was for the hard drive options and once to inquire if I can purchase components direct from them after market sale (such as the x1900 when it becomes more reasonably priced). Less than a week after my purchase, I noticed the price of the machine went went from $1399 to start to $1299. I was a little upset at first that it already decreased before I even had my hands on the thing, so I called and talked with the purchasing department. I explained that my system was still in the build process, so I thought it was only fair I was refunded that $100. After talking with his supervisor, they agreed to refund me the $100 plus tax. Awesome! I saw the refund in my account a week later. Support called me once to say my card wasn't being accepted for payment. I had to call Washington Mutual to have them approve the purchase. Everything was taken care of quickly and easily. The rep stayed on the phone and told the WAMU rep exactly what the problem was and helped take care of it.

    Conclusion:

    As with anything, there is always room for improvement, but the few problems are vastly outweighed by the positives and this machine rocks. I would recommend this computer to anyone that is considering going with a semi-portable machine, suitable for all purposes. If you require a machine that SCREAMS with power for games, this is probably not the one you want. Alienware has others that do that. If you want something that's ultra portable, this is not that. Alienware has a nifty little 15 incher for that. But if you want something that is great at home, giving the full power you need along with something to take on the road while not sacrificing in terms of power, then here it is. It fits all my requirements - ultra high resolution with a great screen, power to play games at nice frame rates, nice sound, great processing power with the best mobile processor out today (Core 2 Duo), plus looks that'll make everyone turn their head to see what exactly it is.

    Some other notebooks are coming with integrated cameras on top, Bluetooth built in, even HDMI output. While I'd love the Bluetooth option, it was never a deal breaker. For what I wanted, there was no other machine out there that would give me all of that for this price. I love it and will very happily recommend it to all my friends and anyone who asks what exactly that is with the blue glowing alien head on the cover.

    Pros:

    • Beautiful design and great build
    • DVI port when most are still using VGA
    • Excellent sound!
    • Great processing power and video graphics
    • High resolution (1920 x 1200!) glossy screen
    • Runs quietly even at High Performance settings
    • Integrated microphone was a nice surprise. It wasn't listed on the website.

    Cons:

    • Some keyboard buttons are annoyingly small compared to a desktop keyboard
    • Mouse buttons are somewhat overly stiff
    • Gets pretty warm on the surface
    • 3 USB ports and Firewire port located on right side when most are right handed and use an external mouse there ( = cables get in the way)
    • Battery life could be better
    • Would love a built in Bluetooth option
    • No Windows XP offering now, only Vista. Vista still has driver issues with your peripherals
     
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  2. sunjhoon

    sunjhoon Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Good review! you almost got me excited i thought this model was with an mrx1900 and also blu ray!lol but still i love the back case of the alienware and the glossy touch around the keyboard and top buttons
     
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    Great review. Lots of detail and good pros and cons. The battery clips may be a problem, particularly if you exchange the batteies frequently. Alienware doesn't design the battery, but rather Uniwill, who build the whole notebook. Its rebranded into an Alienware, and also into the Fujitsu Siemens notebook that sunjhoon has. They are both very sucessful.
     
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    Awesome review! Very well written!
     
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    nice review indeed!

    i agree with possible problems regarding the battery... also, i think the hinges are small for a 17incher. is it just me or i see the hinge with a line (like in time it will just crack a bit like my presario)?
     
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    Most comprehensive review I have ever read on NBR. Congratulations on your purchase!
     
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    Well-written and very detailed review. Thanks.
     
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    A gaming laptop review without any game benchmarks.

    Am I the only person who thinks something is missing?
     
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    it's kinda funny that the x1900 scores are the same as the 3dmark06 scores that the 7700go has in the asus a8js....just goes to show that benchmarks can be a bit misleading....especially 3dmark06
     
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    Nice review. My Superman Edition has the same case as the m5790 without the Alien design and the specs are similar. It does warm up pretty quickly but I've never seen the temps go higher than 60Cwhen gaming. Mostly stays between 45-50C during normal operating conditions.
     
  11. lappyhappy

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    Bear in mind that this has the X1800 not the X1900 though it can be configured with that.
     
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    Good review. You seem like the kind of fella who doesn't mind poking around in his notebook though. Did you look at a Dell e1705? You can get almost the same configuration as the dell XPS (except for a 7900 GS instead of a 7950 GTX), but it's a lot cheaper. The 1705 in my sig was only around $1500. You can then easily buy a Go 7950 GTX and swap it in, and sell your 7900 GS on ebay. So for $1800 you get a machine that scores 10k 3dmark05 and 6k 3dmark06.

    I have to admit the alienware looks very cool though, and you get nice goodies with it. Did you get a t-shirt?
     
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    Or just flash the 7900gs with 7900gtx bios and get the same results...
    But its a Dell and thats not what this thread is about.

    Nice review, very well written !
     
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    Excellent review. I think the X1900 is outperformed by the nVidia high end cards, but its still really powerful. Maybe it just needs better drivers?
     
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    Great review!

    The X1900 performs just below the 7900gs.
     
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    Not based on the game scores i've seen. You can't base it soley on 3dmark. The fact it scores 600 higher in 05 yet 400 lower in 06 doesn't make sense. The CS: Source results I saw had it performing pretty much in-between the 7900gs and 7900gtx.
     
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    Thanks for all the great comments, guys. I appreciate Andrew allowing me to take part in posting a review. I had a lot of fun with it. I'll keep an eye on this thread and try to answer any questions which are posted.



    I hadn't paid attention to what you're referring to at first. I now see. I haven't had a notebook's hinges break on me, so I can't say if this looks like it's suspect or not. The "line" you see is where the two pieces of plastic, which cover the hinge meet up. I don't believe there is any stress whatsoever on that part, it's just asthetics. I hope I'm right. I'll see some time down the road.



    As I said, I don't game all that much and have no games to install. To reinforce that, the one game I have which I still love is Ghost Recon. Yes, the original Ghost Recon. I tried to install, but unfortunately.....VISTA PROBLEMS. Blah. I did download the Command & Conquer 3 demo yesterday though and have been playing that (can just about max out the settings and the game plays great still). I'm not sure how to, or if I even can do some sort of benchmark on that. If you need any numbers and know of a way I can do it minus buying a new game, let me know and I'll check it out. I really just purchased this to completely replace the desktop I had. I wanted power IF I needed it. I guess it's kind of like buying a Ferrari to go grocery shopping because you MIGHT need to take off fast at stop light, but I'm sure when I'm on the road and bored in the hotel, I'll be happy I can run off to Best Buy and pick up a $50 game instead of a $400 XBox 360 PLUS a game.

    Wow, interesting machine. For some reason, when I was looking at Dell, I only checked out the XPS line. I didn't poke around enough on their site to see that some of their Inspiron models are actually pretty beefy. The only problem would be the lack of a 2nd internal drive, which is one of the positives with the m5790 as well as the lack of MXM. I read about that and it sounded like it was the future of laptop video cards, so I wanted a machine with that. I figured if I have this for a few years, there is the ability to buy the newest, latest and greatest video card and upgrade at that time. Maybe MXM will go that route, maybe not. But looking at the benchmarks with the 7900GS, wow....just wow. I'm totally happy with what I have. If I'd have seen your review before, I may have gone that route, though.

    Yes, I got a t-shirt! In reality THAT was the clincher! Forget specs, I saw the t-shirt and they got my credit card number. hahaha.
     
  18. gilo

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    Nice review but it seems like the reviewer opted finally for a X1800 instead of 1900 which explains the relative low benchmarks .

    On a value pov note ,the Dell 9400 would actually have offered better power/$ with a better GPU , while the HP graphics are not far behind the AW .

    None of them have the bling of the AW , Enjoy you new notebook .
     
  19. lappyhappy

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    You could download FRAPS in order to benchmark the game you have. Just do a search for it and it is a free download.
     
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    there's something seriously wrong with the 3dmark06 score... the gpu might be overheating... what's the gpu score by itself?
     
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    This makes me wanna write a reivew.. I just don't have time to write it all. I feel like making a Z84J review following chaz.

    Very detail review of this notebook. So this body of aLienware is a rebrand of Fujisu?
     
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    They are both based on a Uniwill chasis.
     
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    Yes, as Ice-Tea mentioned, they are based on Uniwill chassis. Alienware and Fujitsu Siemens srebrand the notebook, and they have being doing so for a long time. Not just with this and the previous 17" notebook models (M5750 and M5700), but also with the 15.4" models, like the M5550.
     
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    uh, did anyone tell you that it still is very hard to upgrade graphics card despite it being MXM?

    ever tried finding a MXM vid card?

    very low supply and that also equates to high prices

    you should've upgraded to x1900 cause it'll probably cost more to upgrade in the future then now (i think ice tea sells the 7900gs for something like 400+ [ http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=79235&highlight=ice+tea+7900gs] and i doubt the rarer x1900 will be much cheaper if at all)
     
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    hmmmmm, you bring up some good points. However, the performance of the Mobility X1900 isn't massively batter than the Mobility X1800. Yes, it has the potential to perform very well, but at the moment, it isn't woth the extra $400 to upgrade. Drivers will increase the performance, but it will take time for that to happen.
     
  26. lowdownthrowdown

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    I can buy the card directly through Alienware when the time comes. And if I want to go cheaper and used, I'm sure once the Radeon Mobility x2600 or whatever it'll be called hits 6 months or less from now, there will be quite a few early adopters who have x1900's in their systems now and HAVE to have the newest, so they upgrade. What do they do with their x1900? EBay....

     
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    how would the GPUs be replaceable. What about the PCB board itself... wouldn't it require a newer revision?