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    Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMi Review (pics, specs)

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by lewdvig, Oct 25, 2005.

  1. lewdvig

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    by Perry Longinotti, Alberta Canada

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    Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMi

    Here is an interesting question for you: How does product placement and sports sponsorship effect you? Personally, I like it. When I see a character in a movie or television show using a product I own, it validates my purchasing decision. Like in Mission Impossible when Ethan Hunt is seen using an Apple PowerBook I remember thinking how cool that was and wondering if the cool-looking Operating System he was using was Apple's Copland (the doomed next-gen Mac OS that preceded OS X). Now, whenever a character on TV uses a computer, I have to identify what brand they are using.

    Similarly, in sports I like to see the tech that I am using employed by the teams I cheer for. When I am in the market for something, if a supplier of that item sponsors a team in one of my favorite sports it makes a difference to me. I used to buy Motorola phones when they sponsored Lance Armstrong's cycling team. When Motorola dropped out and USPS stepped in, I switched to using their services to complement my rabid eBay buy/sell addiction. Their sponsorship made it possible for me to continue watching an athlete participate in a sport I enjoyed. Yes, product placement and sponsorship influences me.

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    Ferrari branding (view larger image)

    Sure, there is some push back on the whole branding thing. It's been argued that we are ourselves becoming branded - but hey that is a choice we make, right? And everything else being equal, wouldn't you rather have a branded item than a plain generic one? I would. For manufacturers this is a good way to make a commodity item into something a lot more desirable.

    Having this opinion probably makes me the perfect target for an item like the Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMI. There are few brands as recognizable as Ferrari, and there are few things as hard to differentiate as computers.

    Ferrari makes products that stand out, so the appeal of using the brand is understandable. In addition to making a great product in the form of performance cars, Ferrari runs a number of successful racing programs. The pinnacle of this being the Ferrari Formula One team.

    I dig Formula One (F1), and I have followed it since I was a kid. I even idolized Gilles Villeneuve when I was a kid. Villeneuve was the Ferrari F1 driver whose passion and exuberance came to symbolized the team for many people in the late seventies and early eighties. Tragically, his racing career (and life) were cut short in a racing accident. There is no shortage of racing legends associated with this brand.

    The Ferrari F1 racing team has a number of high-tech sponsors. AMD led the charge into F1, and they were shortly followed by Acer as an official supplier to the Ferrari team. It isn't any surprise that Acer would make an AMD Turion-based, Ferrari-branded notebook. Why not make an Intel Centrino-based Ferrari? Intel sponsors Toyota F1.

    First Impressions

    Acer packages the Ferrari in a box worthy of the name. It's black, glossy and has sexy shots of the 4005. Personally, I think the packaging should be part of the product design -- the entire experience should be consistent -- especially when a premium brand is involved. Acer might as well get the maximum mileage from this association.

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    Ferrari Box (view larger image)

    When you open the box, there are unpacking instructions and a helpful getting started guide inside the flap. This is a nice touch for people who are not as comfortable with technology.

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    Box - unpacking

    Inside you will find the usual array of manuals and disks -- but with an "Ferrari: Official Licensed Product' sticker on most of them. You will also get a Ferrari Bluetooth mouse and cleaning cloth.

    I have to confess to being rather giddy when I first handled this Ferrari. It looks like no ordinary notebook. Materials used in the manufacture of the Ferrari are first-rate. From the flex-eliminating Carbon fiber lid (with visible weave), to the pleasant feeling rubberized trim finish, the impression is of a top notch product. The rubber finish is similar to that used on the Compaq 2811CA notebook I had a few years back. Red trim highlights what is a much more conservatively styled notebook than the previous Acer Ferrari's.

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    Acer Ferrari 4005 lid (view larger image)

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    Acer Ferrari left side view (view larger image)

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    Acer Ferrari right side view (view larger image)

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    Underside of Acer Ferrari 4005

    Like all recent Acers, there are lots of buttons and lights on the Ferrari. WiFi and Bluetooth buttons/lights are located on the front as are power and battery indicators. Above the keyboard are four programmable convenience buttons.

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    Acer Ferrari front side view (view larger image)

    Weight is 6.3 pounds - a little on the heavy side for a 15" wide screen notebook, but the benefit is that the Ferrari is quite stiff and feels well-built. Acer quotes a thickness of 1.4 inches, but it looks thinner. This is probably because of the little feet that protrude about a quarter inch from that bottom of the notebook. Underneath, the Ferrari is clean -- no ugly bulges or fan vents.

    A distinguishing feature of Acer notebooks is their curved ergonomic keyboard. Despite some initial concern, I found it easy to get adapted. The foundation of the keyboard is very stiff, very similar to my ThinkPad T40. Key travel is medium, and the keys themselves are light weight. While on the topic of input, another neat feature is Acer's wide-screen touch pad. When you think of it, designing the touch pad in the same shape as the screen makes sense.

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    Acer Ferrari 4005 keyboard and touchpad, notice the curve to the keyboard(view larger image)

    Specifications

    So thorough is Intel's domination of the mobile computing market that I can honestly say this is my first review of a non-Intel Windows based notebook! Finally, something new to talk about. When looking at Centrino-based notebooks there isn't much variation -- and that is exactly the point. Intel adopted a completely integrated approach to the mobile platform and it paid off. AMD's answer to this is Turion which in my opinion is not remotely as fully-integrated a solution as Centrino.

    AMD will tell you that this assemblage of diverse parts from an assortment of vendors is a benefit as it allows PC makers to use best-of-breed components. The irony of this statement is that many of the best-of-breed components are made by Intel.

    How do the Turion specs compare to the latest Centrino? On paper, AMD's answer to Intel's mobility juggernaut seems to fall short.

    Starting at the top, Acer's Ferrari uses the AMD Turion 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 (1MB L2 cache, 2.0 GHz) CPU. This CPU fully supports x86-64 (it is a 64-bit CPU) and this means it will be compatible with current and future 64-bit operating systems from Microsoft, but will run todays programs with no problem.

    ATI's RADEON Xpress 200 chipset (ATI RX480M Northbridge and ATI SB400 Southbridge) is used. It features a HyperTransport bus operating at 800 MHz, single channel DDR RAM, SATA support and PCI-Express among other things. Turion solutions can use chipsets from a variety of sources including SiS and VIA.

    This is very different from what we are used to seeing in the latest Centrinos, and frankly a little lower tech. I think ATI knows that because it was almost impossible to get any reasonable amount of information on the discreet graphics version of this chipset.

    Looking more closely at the CPU it has some noticeable differences from what we would see in an Intel Dothan Pentium-M. AMD's chip has half the amount of level 2 cache (1 MB versus the Pentium-M's 2 MB), but it compensates by including 64-bit support as well as SSE3 (relevant in multimedia applications for speeding up calculations) and a much faster bus speed. AMD offers a power saving system (AMD PowerNow!) similar to Intel's Speed step. There are a number of free utilities you can download from AMD to monitor heat and power usage if you get turned-on by that sort of thing. This particular part consumes 35 watts, this is puzzling because there is a lower watt version of the 2 GHz Turion available that would have stretched out battery life a bit. I am not sure why Acer would forsake the more power frugal CPU.

    The Turion, like the Pentium-M, is much more efficient than a Pentium 4. For this reason, AMD uses a naming convention that refers to 'equivalent' speed. In this case, we should expect to see performance comparable to a 3.7 GHz Pentium 4. In tests that I have read, the Turions and Pentium-Ms seem to be evenly matched when operating at the same clock speed.

    Acer uses Nanya memory - 1024 MB of RAM to be exact (two 512 MB PC2700 SODIMMs). Because this is a Single Channel chipset, you do not need to match memory in the two slots. In case you are thinking that the slower memory on the Ferrari would be a disadvantage, keep in mind that unlike the Centrino's DDR2 this RAM is low latency. The fast bus used in Turion systems and the low latency RAM makes memory performance a wash between the competing platform.

    I would expect to find a 7200 RPM HDD in a Ferrari, but instead Acer spec' ed 100 GB 5400 RPM HDD. In researching this notebook I read that some versions of the Ferrari shipped with a Seagate Momentus HDD. Mine came with a Toshiba MK1032GAX. This drive's most notable feature is its 16 MB buffer. ATA is used in place of the newer SATA standard. A better choice would have been the Hitachi Travelstar 5400 RPM HDD in the same capacity. As a few people pointed out after our Gateway 8510GZ review, the Hitachi 5400 RPM drives perform almost as well as their premium 7200 RPM models that are widely regarded as the best mobile drives in the industry.

    Bottom line: Drives in the 100 GB capacity are common, Acer should have provided a faster or larger drive. Also disappointing is the lack of a drop protection (drive parking and/or air bag). Given the fact that this feature is available in an iBook, its exclusion is puzzling.

    It is increasingly common to see large drives split into partitions. In Ferrari's case the drive is split into three: a small recovery partition, and two 40 GB partitions (C: drive and a storage volume).

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    Partitions (view larger image)

    The optical drive is a DVD-Super Multi double-layer drive made by Matshita (UJ-845S). Acer spec'd a slot loading model (generally preferable to a tray loading type). This is a good quality drive.

    You can't build a high performance laptop and then hobble it with weak video capabilities, so Acer selected ATI's RADEON X700 video chip for the Ferrari. This is a native 16x PCI-Express part. I have seen this available in 64, 128 and 256 MB versions with varying grades of video RAM. Acer chose the 128 MB model with 128-bit video RAM. In this configuration the Mobility X700 is very powerful -- the Ferrari beat the benchmark scores of my Intel Pentium 4 desktop (3.2 GHz) with a RADEON 9800.

    Clock speeds on the X700 are 350 MHz GPU and 330 MHz RAM. Although I have seen it listed as GDDR (GDDR = Graphics DDR -- essentially really low latency and low power RAM made expressly for video cards), the Ferrari's video memory is standard DDR according to the test utilities that I use. It is possible that the tools simply can not identify or recognize GDDR.

    Acer has two trim levels available for the Ferrari 4000 series. The lower-end spec includes an Acer CrystalBrite 15" wide screen (1280*800) and the high-end model uses a screen in the same size but without the CrystalBrite coating (1680*1050). If there was one feature that made selecting my Ferrari difficult it was this one. I am beginning to really like these high contrast coatings for my home computer. I would avoid it if I were planning to use the Ferrari in an office setting. Let there be no doubt though, the high-end Ferrari has a great screen. It has a great refresh rate; while playing games there was no trace of ghosting.

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    Acer Ferrari 4005 Screen (view larger image)

    If you use an external monitor you are spoiled with options. The Ferrari has DVI, VGA and S-Video ports. Knowing that the Xpress 200M typically has integrated video, I wonder if it would be possible to power four displays with the Ferrari. This would be just the ticket for any Ferrari-driving day trader out there.

    Acer has a strange little utility called GridVista which is like a multi-monitor concept on a single screen. This answers a question that I don't think anyone was asking.

    Acer changed the Ferrari's default system font size to 120 DPI. This might be great for people with bad eyes, who might otherwise have difficulty reading text at the screens native 1680*1050 resolution, but I found that some control panels look funny with this setting so I reverted back to 90 DPI and was much happier.

    Broadcom's 802.11G wireless part handles the WiFi chores. This part features Broadcom's 'Afterburner' Enhanced-G technology that claims to increase network performance by 35%. Linksys supports this feature in some of their routers. I was not able to test this feature myself, but it should come in handy if you have a router that supports the feature and you also happen to like transferring files between your notebook and another computer wirelessly. Of greater value to most people will be WPA security that the newer wireless technologies offer.

    While on the topic of WiFi, I should mention the Ferrari's antenna. It uses Acer's SignalUp technology based on PIFA (planar inverted-F antenna). Acer claims this is the leading antenna on the market and I can't argue with them. In my tests the Ferrari held onto a signal very well.

    Wrapping up the wireless technologies on the Ferrari is Bluetooth. Acer uses the Microsoft Bluetooth stack which I prefer to the Widcomm and Toshiba implementations that I have tested in the past. Pairing the Ferrari with my Treo and the included mouse was no problem.

    Sure, it paired up fine but the matching Acer/Ferrari Bluetooth mouse is rubbish. It works very badly and is too jerky - even for basic computing. In fact it is so bad that even though it is free, it detracts from the overall value of this system. Acer should remove it from the package or improve it. The mouse's rechargeable AA batteries are OK, I suppose.

    The Ferrari also includes 10/100/1000 LAN, audio in/out (supporting SPDIF), four USB 2.0 ports, an SD/MMC/MemoryStick/xD card reader, Infra Red and Firewire.

    All of this is covered by a one year international warranty.

    Software

    Acer includes a spartan assortment of software. Just the basics here and thankfully there are no AOL offers in the box or pre-installed. Like those islands of sea gull guano in the Pacific, there must be an island made entirely of discarded AOL disks somewhere -- or there will be soon.

    You get a 90 trial of Norton Antivirus (NAV). An OEM copy of NAV costs me $10 CDN so on one hand it is not a big deal for me to buy it. On the other hand, this is a $2400 CDN notebook and while Acer found room in the budget for a worse-than-useless Bluetooth mouse, they did not feel it necessary to bundle a full year NAV license.

    NTI's latest burning suite is bundled with the Ferrari so that you can have some fun with the DVD burner. In the past, NTI's stuff has not worked well for me. Generally, I prefer the Nero burning suite. I will give NTI credit though, as the new suite that came bundled with the Ferrari was quite good. It worked well and includes a few good features such as DVD fit (shrink your DVDs and burn them onto a single layer disk) and a complete backup tool set.

    PowerDVD will play your DVDs. This is a tried and true application that Acer has installed without the cripple ware that can occasionally accompany CyberLink's software.

    I am not sure how the recovery process works. When you boot for the first time you will be prompted to create a restore DVD. A complete set of factory disks is included as well.

    Performance

    Ferrari had a dreadful season in F1 this year. As I write this, Michael Schumacher has spun out of the Chinese Grand Prix - an ignominious end to his worse-ever season. After years of being far ahead of their rivals where-in Ferrari won both the driver and constructors championship (for 5 successive years), they trailed well off the pace most of the 2005 season. So, is the Acer Ferrari notebook more like the 2004 or the 2005 car?

    Acer's Ferrari is a competitive product. It certainly does not dominate in the fashion of the 2004 Ferrari F1 car, but it puts in a good fight and challenges for the championship. Let's have a look at the results:

    Super PI (a tool created by the University of Tokyo that is freely distributed) is a good tool to test the speed of a CPU. Sure, it is simple but it gives a pretty clear picture of CPU performance. For this test I used the version of Super PI with support for SSE3.

    Notebook Time
    Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMi (2.0GHz AMD Turion) 1m 47s
    Lenovo ThinkPad Z60t(2.0 GHz Pentium M) 1m 44s
    Sony VAIO FS680 (1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 53s
    IBM ThinkPad T43 (1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 45s
    Asus Z70A (1.6GHz Pentium M) 1m 53s
    Fujitsu LifeBook N3510 (1.73 GHz Pentium M) 1m 48s
    Dell Inspiron 6000D (1.6 GHz Pentium M) 1m 52s
    Dell Inspiron 600M (1.6 GHz Pentium M) 2m 10s
    Sony VAIO S360 (1.7 GHz Pentium M) 1m 57s
    HP DV4170us (Pentium M 1.73 GHz) 1m 53s
    Sony VAIO S380 (1.86 GHz Pentium M) 1m 45s

    Here are the scores from PCMark04 and the ThinkPad T43 results alongside for comparison:

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    Futuremark PCMark04 Scores
    ThinkPadT43 (1.86GHz, ATI X300 64MB graphics) Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMi (2.0GHz AMD Turion)
    Multithreaded Test 1 / File Compression 3.33 MB/s -
    Multithreaded Test 1 / File Encryption 27.19 MB/s -
    Multithreaded Test 2 / File Decompression 23.4 MB/s 23.95MB/s
    Multithreaded Test 2 / Image Processing 10.88 MPixels/s 11.99 MPixels/s
    Multithreaded Test 3 / Virus Scanning 1914.17 MB/s 1533.04 MB/s
    Multithreaded Test 3 / Grammar Check 2.82 KB/s 3.07KB/s
    File Decryption 54.11 MB/s 60.97MB/s
    Audio Conversion 2496.87 KB/s 2603.36 KB/s
    Web Page Rendering 5.27 Pages/s 4.66Pages/s
    DivX Video Compression 51.71 FPS 45.66FPS
    Physics Calculation and 3D 159.19 FPS 167.79FPS
    Graphics Memory - 64 Lines 868.44 FPS 1607.5FPS
    Futuremark 3DMark05 Scores
    3DMark Score 727 3DMarks 27383D Marks
    CPU Score 3414 CPUMarks 3823CPUMarks
    Gaming Tests
    GT1 - Return To Proxycon 3.3 FPS 11.9FPS
    GT2 - Firefly Forest 2.2 FPS 8.6FPS
    GT3 - Canyon Flight 3.4 FPS 12.9FPS
    CPU Tests
    CPU Test 1 1.18 FPS 2.2FPS
    CPU Test 2 2.9 FPS -

    Overall, the scores in synthetic benchmarks were good. I would characterize them as being in-line with results I have obtained from 2 GHz Pentium-M notebooks. It goes without saying that office applications will run great on the Ferrari, but its Turion processors also excels at encoding and compression tasks, so it would make a great mobile video editing workstation. You will see Intel winning battles in office-type applications and AMD winning in media applications. But the real world difference between Intel and AMD's best is small.

    With a 128 MB RADEON X700 the Ferrari will handle pretty much any current generation game at medium to high settings at 1024*768 resolution. A good example of this is Half Life 2 which auto-detected high video settings across the board on first run. Far Cry ran perfectly with absolutely stunning visuals. While not as powerful as a desktop replacement notebook, the Ferrari offers a very satisfying experience.

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    HalfLife 2 Settings (view larger image)

    With an ATI chipset it would have seemed strange for Acer to spec the Nvidia GeForce Go 6600. The 6600 and X700 are very evenly matched with the Nvidia part having the edge in OpenGL games and the ATI part winning in DirectX. This is the second X700 that I have reviewed and it continues to impress me. It is a great part for highly mobile devices like this notebook. The power you can pack into a thin and light-ish notebook is amazing.

    ATI's HYPERMEMORY, a feature that lets a video card use a hybrid of dedicated and system ram to improve game performance, continues to mystify me. With the latest CATALYST 5.10 drivers there is still no mention of HYPERMEMORY in the control panel. Yet, when I run 3DMark05 the X700 is enumerated as having 256 MB of RAM. Very strange. I am still not sure how the technology works in practice and whether it is enabled in these tests. Feel free to shed some light on this feature in the comments area if you can enlighten me.

    Things are looking good so far, but there was some concern with Acer's choice of HDD. The Ferrari's input/output performance was good -- just good. There are better drives in the same price and class as the 100 GB Toshiba used here. And the lack of data protection features common in so many notebook HDDs accentuates the disappointment of its pedestrian performance.

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    HDTune Hard Drive Benchmarks

    Perhaps the biggest question regarding the Turion platform (if you can call a platform) is battery life. My perception going into this review was that Centrino's utilization of power saving technologies on almost every component -- and the fact that those components are designed to be energy efficient first and foremost -- makes it the better choice for people looking for true mobility.

    Intel does very good work tuning performance in ways that are easily measured. AMD should learn from this. Although I had a hard time getting a proper and full result from our favorite battery life benchmark, I could sit through enough of the test to see that the Ferrari would eventually get about 90 minutes.

    Sadly, Battery Eater Pro simply refused to complete a test on our Ferrari. There is a documented problem with BEP and the RADEON X700. This is puzzling because it worked OK on the Gateway 8510GZ and that also used an X700. Once the problem is fixed I will update this article with test results but I am not sure how much stock I would place on these results.

    In my tests, I found battery life to be in line with Centrino notebooks that I have tested. Most mid-sized Pentium-M notebooks achieve 2-3 hours. Using the Ferrari to surf and write I managed two and a half hours consistently. I would say that 2.5 hours from the Ferrari is a fair expectation. If his notebook used the MT37 and a higher capacity battery, it would be a mobile monster.

    Conclusion

    If you care how your gear looks, you will love the Acer Ferrari. Simply put, I have not seen a more desirable notebook. Pictures do not do the Ferrari justice. It is both understated and bling. The carbon weave lid looks great and is functional too. I could understand people passing on the previous generation Acer Ferrari's based on their outrageous (bright red) looks, but I can't see people having the same issues with this one.

    The Ferrari is as well made as any ThinkPad or PowerBook that I have tested. I suspect that this isn't the only Acer notebook that is built this well. Making a notebook like the Ferrari should bring some attention to a company that is now the 4 largest notebook maker in the world (behind Dell, HP and Toshiba).

    In the build quality and looks department the Ferrari is a clear winner -- well ahead of its nearest rival. Like Michael Schumacher did so many times in the 2004 F1 season, the Acer Ferrari starts the 'build quality and aesthetics race' in pole position and disappears into the horizon when the start light goes green. Simply put, in drives away from its rivals.

    In terms of performance I would have to rate the Ferrari better than most notebooks in its class. It comes in cheaper than the similar performing Acer 8004 WLMi sporting Intel's fastest Centrino combo. It loses ground in office applications, but the Ferrari wins in most media applications and games. People buy machines like these because they want better frame rates in games or in encoding tools, not to make MS Word operate faster. There is a better choice from AMD in terms of energy consumption, that being the lower power version of the 2 GHz Turion. Also, the HDD is not a championship winning part.

    I would say that in the 'performance race' Acer's Ferrari wins by having a keen pit strategy. It wins, but by a close margin.

    Expandability in this class of notebook is almost unheard of. I don't have the guts to open the Ferrari up and have look inside. It is very thin so it is pretty hard to imagine a socketed CPU or an accessible AXIOM module. This notebook could be a classic in the future. Anything that lets you keep it longer and get some use from it in the future is a plus. If any one has access to the Acer service manuals let me know.

    What about the 'bang for the buck' race? Making a value judgment on the Ferrari is a little tougher call. In my opinion, at about $2400 CDN this Ferrari is a lot more desirable than your similarly priced high-end notebook. As mentioned earlier, Acer makes the TravelMate 8104 WLMi which packs a 2 GHz Centrino into the same chassis as the Ferrari, with the same video card, but minus the Ferrari branding. The 8104 sells for about $300 more than the Ferrari -- and it is gray. Performance between the two is very close. Given the choice I would take the Ferrari.

    Acer also offers a lower spec'd version of the Ferrari at what I consider to be a good price point ($1900 CDN). You get half the RAM, a 1.6 GHz Turion rather than 2 GHz, an 80 GB HDD (5400 RPM) and the CrystalBrite screen mentioned earlier. The only question becomes can you live with the 1.6 GHz Turion? If it turns out that the Ferrari's CPU is in a socket, this issue will be rendered moot because you will be able to upgrade it yourself.

    In the final analysis, if you are looking at a high end notebook, you really should check out the Acer Ferrari. It is an excellent performer with top-notch looks. Acer has put together a premium notebook that is easily differentiated from others based on both the choice of internal components and looks.

    Acer's sponsorship of an F1 team has paid off for them. Although their other notebooks are nice, I think it is fair to say that they are not objects of desire for most people. I think that the Ferrari changes that.

    Pros:

    • Gorgeous - simply beautiful to look at
    • Superior build quality and materials
    • Great performance that rivals Intel's best
    • Decent bang for the buck (4002WLMI may be the better value)
    • Can play any current generation game with reasonable settings
    • Unique -- you won't see too many of them around
    • Will run Microsoft's Vista OS nicely

    Cons:

    • The Ferrari could have used the 25 watt version of the 2 GHz Turion
    • More cells in the battery would help
    • Ditch the crappy mouse -- give us something useful

    Pricing and Availability: Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMi

     
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  2. Andrew Baxter

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    I agree that the branding thing is sort of a magnet, and we're all probably willing suckers to certain branding -- whether it be Ferrari or Lance Armstrong (I particularly like the Armstrong branding HP did on their L2000 model because of the fact they donate $50 to the LiveStrong foundation).

    Interesting to note that both the L2000 notebook and the Acer Ferrari line use AMD processors, I wonder if Intel is anti-branded notebooks because it overshadows their Centrino branding. We did see last week that Intel and Lamborghini execs shook hands and are going to team up to release a branded notebook of some sort, which further leads me to believe there is some level of control Intel wants to keep -- but I might be wrong.

    Anyway, thanks for the review, sorry off the top of my head I can't offer any answer to that Hypermemory confusion there.
     
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    I'm really against the Ferrari branding. I really think that it does take away from the excellent value of the notebook. I've heard many times that the badge alone is worth $400 but I'd love to see anyone offer a laptop with these specs at $400 less. I bought mine with value in mind and I have been most impressed with the "whole package." It really runs cool when I put the powernow settings to minimum and the rubber is nice. The only thing I do wish is that it were a bit lighter. That said I accept that the wieght went into building a solid notebook. I can pick this thing up by just a corner and there is no flex or creaks. It's sweet.
     
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    Had AMD spec'd a nice videocard in the Livestrong notebook I would have certainly bought it.
     
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    just one question about the heat. does the laptop get really hot around the touchpad, or the keyboard? Or its barely noticeable?
     
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    No heat on battery power. A little heat from the exhaust on AC. It is remarkably cool considering the speed and GPU.
     
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    Buttons & ports look exactly like my Acer Travelmate 8104 (which I'm quite satisfied with as a desktop replacement computer). Experience has taught me that the 3 USB ports on the right side and audio jacks on the front are a frequent annoyance. Wireless buttons on the front are pretty nice unless a jealous cat trying to move into your lap presses them... then they're the worst design gaffe in the machine.

    I have been underwhelmed by both Acer's and ATI's support for the X700 (coming from a desktop background where graphics drivers are tweaked frequently and often). ATI updates their drivers that don't actually work with the mobile X700; Acer doesn't touch their support page.

    You don't notice that the hard drive is slow except at boot -- the 16MB cache does miracles when actively running.

    And Acer's power management software is the nicest I've seen (with admittedly limited experience).

    In this case, however, the branding strikes me as gaudy "Steal Me" flashings, nothing more. It is prettier, but at $400 more expensive? Not so much.
     
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    If you put the two leading AMD-based laptop
    Acer Ferrari 4005 (AMD Turion™ 64 Mobile ML-37)
    versus
    Compaq R4000 (AMD Athlon(TM) 64 4000+

    http://us.acer.com/acerpanam/page9.do?dau34.oid=10478&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=25&CountryISOCtxParam=US&LanguageISOCtxParam=en&crc=1062168153
    http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks/compaq_presario&series_name=R4000_series&catLevel=2&tab_switch=true&tab=specs

    Which will perform better in a head-on benchmark test?:amd64-2:

    Both in speed, performance and customer support...as if a head-on car race.

    (May I suggest to our moderators that a list of the most fast laptop be placed similar to the list posted on the home page for popular notebooks. Instead of voting for the candidate laptop, a common benchmark test be in placed and updated as new laptop comes.
    That way we know who is really leading the race when it comes to laptop performance. ):base:
     
  9. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    ;)
    Like I stated in the article, where I live (Canada) the Ferrari is $400 _LESS_ than the 8104 ($2300 vs. $2700 CDN). But it if you like plain grey notebooks knock yourself out, you have lots to choose from. ;)
     
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    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    It isn't that simple. People have unique requirements - that is why we write the reviews and have some benchmark numbers. That way people will hopefully find what they are looking for.

    In terms of speed, if you are crunching numbers your needs will be different than someone that wants to play Far Cry. There isn't one single measure that works for everyone.
     
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    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    The best bet is to download mobility modder from www.driverheaven.net.

    Only a few notebook makers (Sager, Voodoo) use the plain ATI mobility drivers. Acer does not use the generic drivers and does not update their own too often.

    Is there something wrong with the current drivers though? Most poeple do not need the update to 5.10. There won't be any performance miracles for the x700 - it is what is is.
     
  12. red_chief

    red_chief Notebook Consultant

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    I understand it is quite a complex task to unify all the benchmark. And I agree, different person has different requirements.

    But, I prefer to think it this way. If a computer performs outstanding given the "worst scenario" that you can put at it.... then it will perform at scenario of lesser intensity. Given that the candidate computer would be at its maximum options possible(Highest processor, highest GPU, highest ram setting, fastest hard drive option available)

    That way we have the "Ultimate Notebook" tested in the "worst case scenario"

    For example, test it with the most demanding 3D game software with all the enhancements on (Lets say DOOM3). Then test it to do some complex computations (I have seen a demo where the computer draws a complex graphic where they time the completion of two competitor). Then test it with an industry standard benchmark. Then get the overall performance.

    I have seen in AMD website that they compare their processor by:

    1. Office productivity overall
    2. Digital media overall
    3. Overall performance

    http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041,00.html
    (click on the "Select benchmark")

    Perhaps we can also add battery life in the proposed "test"


    The "Ultimate Notebook" tested in the "worst case scenario" will eliminate some of the bias inherent with individual laptop review. Different set of benchmark, different configuration, etc.

    It will eliminate the confusion of the mobile version, the turion, the centrino, the low wattage version, the 64 bit, 32 bit, the dual core's, etc....the list goes on.... . Making it more palatable to the expert user and more sense to first time users. :base:

    In addition, Since advertisement and endorsement receive some compensation, the bias it holds may favor one laptop from the other. The advertisement in the website may give a hint. :D

    So by using a universal test, even if you are affiliated to one company or competitor or receive compensation for the review, your results hold weight. :)

    That way we know the real winner of the race... ;)
     
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    red chief, the problem we have is that we're a spread out bunch...if we were all in the same office in timbuktu usa we'd probably be a lot more structured and have a room where we just take laptop pictures and run benchmarks. But lewdvig is in Alberta CA and I'm in NY USA and have our own lives so we communicate via email and do our best to coordinate doing a review and providing the pictures and content for others to benefit. We're always open to suggestions and making whatever changes we can, and since we're reading what you say will remember for reviews going forward!

    Oh, and 90% of the time reviews are done of products purchased and not provided by the mfr. so you can always be assured reviews are unbiased -- there's nothing to lose or gain by ripping a laptop for being a stinker if that's the case. And even if we do get a product for review from the mfr., well we'll still be honest if it sucks :)
     
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    red_chief Notebook Consultant

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    No harm intented on the unbiased review issue. I was referring to a comment given to another website. I won't name it... Just read the accusation on one forum. But it is just "alleged" and not necessarily true or false. Nevertheless, a shadow of doubt is set.

    I understand that it must be really difficult not having an office or a test center of some sort.

    I was thinking in the realm of perhaps having to download a set of testing material.

    "Testing Your Laptop here" :base:software. Which is the "official" benchmark test of notebookreview.com

    That way even if you are in US or other country. The same set of rules apply.
     
  15. TBird

    TBird Notebook Consultant

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    Hey I was thinking of buying one of these PC's
    looking around online I found this site: http://www.onixstyle.com/proddetail.php?prod=05405
    Has anyone used Onixstyle and know if they are legit or not
    Their prices seem way to good @ $1,475.25 while all of the other stores sell this around $2,000.00
    Just want some info on the legitamacy of onixstlye.com store
     
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    I can't even find onixstyle.com on www.resellerratings.com so I'd say avoid that store completely, the price is way too good to be true and it has no feedback about it on the web.
     
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    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Keep in mind that there are two Ferraris in the 4000 line. The 4002 WLMi sells for $1500-1600 USD so that price is good, but inline with what I would expect to find.

    I was not sure that I was going to keep this when I set out, but I am. It is the best notebook I have ever used (and I have owned/reviewed about 30 notebooks). Another hour of battery life and it would be perfect. I can't wait to see what Acer does next year!
     
  18. Bruce Banner

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    I'll second that!
     
  19. rmfought

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    I just bought a Ferrari 4005 WLMi to replace a Compaq R3000. While the R3000/R4000 are great laptops, I would have taken a Ferrari over an R4000 any day. The GPU options on the R3000/4000 series just don't excite me, especially considering that they are desktop-replacement class notebooks.

    I will ding Acer for quality, my Ferrari came defective out of the box. The fan makes an awful rattling noise, so I am having so ship it off to get repaired a day after getting it. Now I gotta wait two weeks to really get to play with it.
     
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    How about comparing it to another AMD laptop like the Sager NP9750?:base:
    How would you rate the two?

    AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor

    nVIDIA<tt>®</tt> GeForce™ GO 7800 GTX PCI-Express™ 16X Graphics with 256MB DDR3 Video Memory

    Dual Optical Device bays and Dual Hard disk Capability allow this system to be customized with 2 CD-ROM devices and 2

    Hard Drives coexisting for maximum storage capacity


    http://www.sagernotebook.com/pages/go_np9750.html
     
  21. KHOSO

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    Hello all I am New here
    Please Answer One Question is 4005 and 4000 Gets hot Like 3400 Please reply
    THANKS BYE
     
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    Rule #1 if it seems too good to be true, it is

    Rule #2 Read the fine print
    Onixstyle does *NOT* accept US Dollars. They only accept "e-gold"

    And what is E-Gold? an "electronic currency" that they claim is backed by gold, but that the Secret Service thinks is probably worthless

    Also, transactions in E-gold are not traceable and not reversable, there is no paper trail, if Onixstyle is a scam you have no recourse

    In order to pay with E-gold you have to start up an account, and then buy the e-gold from a moneychanger (= pay a commission)

    My advice: Stay away from onixstyle, and shame on the low price search engines for listing it.
     
  23. lewdvig

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    I still have it. It is still awesome.

    With the screen on full brightness and wifi on I get exactly 2.5 hours every time.

    I completed Far Cry on it and I have been playing CS:Source at 1680*1050 (High Detail) for a few hours at a stretch.
     
  24. TBird

    TBird Notebook Consultant

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    Why thank you mv620 for treating me like a TOTAL NOOBIE!!!
    I gathered that much from reading the site and thought it looked fishy and that is why I came here asking people who have probably bought more notebooks than I...
    And BTW it is impossible that this service is "backed by gold" as that could the amount of gold in Fort Knox and I don't think anyone has that amount...
    Please don't treat me like a noob I use a PC all the time and am quite proficient in many computer coding languages if you know what those are... :mad:
     
  25. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    He's just giving you some information, I don't believe it was tended to make you feel demoted. This forum is all about helping people - I didn't know what e-gold was, so I learned something.

    So, just accept it for what it is. ;)
     
  26. lewdvig

    lewdvig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Nice response from an engineer at Broadcom regarding the BT mouse that comes with the 4005WLMi:

    "I saw these comments on NotebookReview.Com. I am the architect of the Broadcom Bluetooth IC used in the mouse. Sorry about your experiences with the device. However, from the pics, it appears you're using the mouse on a woodgrain surface. The "jerky" performance is probably due to the poor tracking ability on woodgrain by the Agilent sensor used in the mouse. This is actually a quite common problem. Very dark or black surfaces can also sometimes cause problems.

    You might try using a mouse pad to improve performance, but one without any tricky repetitive patterns. There are some pads with random reflective "speckle" patterns of which are designed specifically for optical mice, but aren't strictly necessary.

    -Rob Hulvey, Broadcom Corp.

    P.S. I had just been watching a Stargate SG-1 episode in which they mentioned McMurdo, and I was wondering where it was. Ironic that I ran into your post shortly thereafter. :)"

    -----------------------------------
    BTW I don't really live in Antartica. Although soemtimes I think the peace and quiet would do me good.
     
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    I love my Ferrari but something weird is starting to happen. (I've had this beauty for 3 months) When powered in wall and battery full after about 15 minutes of use the screen flickers and the icon in the system try flickers back and forth between battery and charged/plugged in. We I unplug and run off battery I have to go into acer emanager and put the brightness back up. When plugged back in when battery low I get the same brightness flicker of dim/bright/dim etc and the icon thing. Shut down and charges fine.

    What the heck is going on? :confused: I should note that running on just power with the battery removed seems okay.
     
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    hi guys
    is there any difference in the screen from the 4005 to 4006?
    is the screen on the 4005 kind of "washed out" or is it just my imagination?? :confused:
     
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    Quote me how much this will be for plz thanks, :

     
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