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    ASUS Eee PC 1000HE boasts 9.5 hrs battery

    Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Charles P. Jefferies, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. Charles P. Jefferies

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    ASUS Eee PC 1000HE boasts 9.5 hrs battery
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    ASUS has just introduced its latest Eee PC, the 1000HE. Its key feature is the claimed 9.5-hour battery life. The 1000H features a 10-inch LED-backlit display, 92% full-size chicklet-style keyboard, Intel Atom N280 1.66GHz processor, and a weight of 3.2 pounds. The 1000H was announced from the ASUS Eee PC Facebook group.
    The Eee PC 1000HE has an MSRP of $399.99 and is available for pre-order from several retailers; pre-orderees can get a $25 discount. The 1000HE is available in black or blue colors.

    ASUS Promotion Page
    Via (Engadget.com)

     
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    ...hmm i always thought the 1000h was out? Then again they have so many variants of this thing.

    10 hours is awesome this should be equal to or greater the the NC10.
     
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    The Facebook page calls it a 1000HE. Not a 1000H. The E must be for an 'extended' battery....maybe? Just guessing.
     
  4. Xirurg

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    it is HE,Chaz, AFAIK
     
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    So they put out a new battery and decide to call the new package a new model? Meh.... Wake me up when they start using the 330.
     
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    Well, it does have the Atom N280. And with 9+ hours of battery life, that's a tempting netbook choice.
     
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    Enjoy your coma. Make sure no one burys you.
     
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    Wonder how much an upgrade battery would be, if even possible for us H/HA users. I bet it is lipo.
     
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    Never happening.

    Wonder if the GN40 can take 4GB of ram?
     
  11. dougjr

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    Very Nice can't wait for more specs.
     
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    id rather trade 4 of the 9 hours of battery life for a better graphics card. even in coffee shops and airports there is plugs. i want better graphics sigh
     
  13. gengerald

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    They already make one called the N10...
     
  14. Charles P. Jefferies

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    Yeah the ASUS N10 is what you're looking for, it has an Nvidia 9300M GS. Unfortunately it's closer to $700-$800. Not worth it IMO . . .

    This 1000HE looks nice, I wonder how the chicklet-style keyboard will be. I tried the N10's keyboard the other day and it was wonderful; I can't imagine it getting much better than that on a netbook.
     
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    I have tried the chicklet style on the old macbook and I was not impressed. It seems that it took more time to get used to than just a strink down on the H.
     
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    Computer Shopping Review coming Monday, 6am EST: Click Here
     
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    I don't know why this netbook is not garnering more attention. It's easily the best bang-for-the-buck netbook right now. For less than $50 more than an Acer Aspire One, you get a bigger screen, bigger battery, bigger HDD, better processor, better webcam, Wireless-N, and Bluetooth.

    It's two closest competitors, the MSI Wind U100-432US & Samsung NC10-14GBK are priced $55 and $84 more, respectively. Both these devices have near identical specs to the 1000HE, but both use the inferior N270 processor and the NC10 only has 802.11b/g.

    I wasn't a big fan of the Eee line of netbooks until this beauty was released. Now I have a dilema, order this now or wait until the higher-res HP Mini 2140 is released. :)
     
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    i say you should order this now the his res mini 2140 i suspect will be quite a bit more money then this

    its up to you to decide now :D
     
  19. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I was under the impression Intel is suppressing the screen resolutions of netbooks to 10.1 inches and 1024x600. Is HP breaking the mold or . . . ?
     
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    There will be a 1366 x 768 screen res option.
     
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    All the higher res netbooks announced (i.e. Sony VAIO P) run Vista as opposed to XP, so maybe the restrictions are relaxed when Vista is preinstalled on the netbook.
     
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    Microsoft already eased up on their XP restrictions on screen size to 14" so I don't think it's because of Vista.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11200&Itemid=38

    The lines are all kinda blurred really but the Sony VAIO P is technically classified as what Intel would call a mobile internet device (MID) with a Z500 series Atom so it doesn't fall under the netbook restrictions. I believe it's the same reason the Dell Mini 12 can have a higher rez since it can be categorized as a UMPC.

    The Dell Mini 10 however will use the Z500 series Atom but still seems to be classified as a netbook because of it's 10" screen and will have a 1024x576 resolution.
     
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    What about the 'Chiclet' keyboard? Is that an issue or not?
     
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    Do you guys think the 1000HE will use the same RAM as the 1000HA?

    I just bought the 1000HA yesterday (w/ 2GB RAM upgrade) and recently made a preorder for this one....grrr.

    I thinking of taking the 2GB RAM and install it in the 1000HE once it arrives. What do you all think?

    DT
     
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    Intel doesn't have anything to do with it. Microsoft have a strict agreement with Netbook manufacturers that if they want XP Home at a cheap price ("Ultra Low-Cost PC Edition", as MS phrase it) they have to have specific screen resolutions, RAM, etc.

    If the Mini 2133 was anything to go by (with its 1280x800 display), the only version of XP available with the 1366x768 Mini 2140 will be the XP Professional Downgrade.
     
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    does this really have a chiclet keyboard? Chiclet is the keyboard with the rubber keys, correct?
     
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    Both Intel and Microsoft have restrictions on netbooks.

    Edit: Fact of the matter is only Intel really restricts how a netbook is built. As long as it uses Vista Microsoft could care less how a netbook is built.
     
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    Asus on the Facebook page confirmed this has the GN40!! Wonder if it takes 4Gb of ram? Is it fanless?

    Info on the GN40 chipset

    "The new Intel Atom platform featuring GN40 chipset is likely to offer a balance between modern functionality, low power consumption as well as price. Unfortunately, there are no thermal specifications for Intel GN40 available, but its close relative, Intel GL40, consumes up to 12W, which is rather high, hence, new generation netbooks will need to have more capacious batteries".

    Wonder how much less the GN40 uses?

    Look whats new in installed software: Software:MS Works, MS Office 60-day Trial, MS Live, InterVideo DVD xPack

    At least it doesn't have Norton.


    Laptop Mag has review next week
    Can't wait to see how the GN40 really performs.
     
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    Hmm, wonder if they are putting true full bandwidth N in this time...unlike the H
     
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    I'm also wondering if the GN40 takes more than 2GB of RAM
     
  32. Charles P. Jefferies

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    The Intel GL40 chipset supports 4GB of RAM, DDR2/DDR3 667/800. This is the datasheet on the Intel Moble 4 Series chipset:
    http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/320122.pdf
    See sect. 1.4 for GL40 feature support information.

    The GL40 is a budget chipset for inexpensive notebooks like my Acer. If you look in sect. 10.1 of the datasheet I linked to above, you'll see that the TDP is indeed 12W. However, TDP != power consumption - it's a thermal measurement used by manufacturers to determine how powerful of a heatsink they need. You could infer that the GN40 has higher power consumption based on its higher thermal signature but . . . by how much is anybody's guess.
    Since the GN40 netbooks will still be using the GMA950 integrated graphics, you'd have to look into how much power the GMA950 and 4500MHD use and see what the difference is. The 945GME chipset in current netbooks has a 1.05V core, the same as the GL40's 1.05V. The GL40's TDP might be rated higher since the graphics core is faster.
     
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    The GN40 chipset is rumored to be a single-chip design while the GL40 chipset is the standard two chip Northbridge + Southbridge (ICH9) design.

    Has there been any other evidence to support that article's assumption that the GN40 will be a "close relative" to the GL40?


    If the N280+GN40 turns out to be the Pineview platform (I think it is but will leave room to be wrong) then the GMA950 will be on the CPU and the power consumption of the GN40 will of course be lower.
     
  34. Rahul

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    Would you really need more than 2gb of ram in a netbook? For memory intensive applications, wouldn't the Atom processor be a bottleneck anyways or am I incorrect?
     
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    Well, that would depend on what you mean my memory-intensive applications. An application which uses up a lot of memory but little CPU is going to find that memory is the bottleneck, obviously. However there are lots of memory-intensive applications that are also very CPU-intensive, such as video playback, and those are almost certainly going to be CPU-limited on Atom.

    Day-to-day use is more likely to be memory-limited IMO. Multi-tab web browsers make it easy to rack up a lot of RAM on a task that hardly uses the CPU, for example. We're used to leaving things like email and voip clients open, and those need at least some RAM even when idling. If you don't have enough, then you find the HD flogging when you swap tabs or decide to check your email and Windows has to fetch the data from the swap file.

    All this technical twaddle aside though, I think that 1GB of RAM is probably enough for most. Even with Superfetch's best efforts, I rarely go above 1GB of usage on my main laptop. When I do, it's because I'm running a virtual machine.

    So to answer your question, netbooks are probably CPU-limited on video playback and games only, and depending on the amount of RAM, they may be memory-limited in other applications. IMO they'd only be memory-limited if they had under 1GB of RAM.

    Edit- I am a massive nerd.
     
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    hmmmm i like the new one the screen looks better here and overall it seems to be a cleaner look
     
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    I wonder if the keyboards are interchangeable. I wouldn't mind the 1000HE keyboard on my 1000HA.
     
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    And still not word one from Intel.

    WTB Datasheets Atom N280+GN40 PST.
     
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    seeing the pictures side by side, I can see the keyboard really is chiclet
     
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    I still want to see datasheets on Intel's website....that translated article mentions a GMA4000?

    I'll be happy to be wrong about the N280 being Pineview since without the GMA on the CPU I don't have to worry about whether or not the Nvidia Ion platform will work.
     
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    Links not working.
     
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    Very disappointing, I was really interested in knowing what the GN40 was capable of.
     
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    Glad Ive been wrong then.

    Now I want an N280 with an Ion.
     
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    Frankly, I doubt we'll see Pineview in Netbooks anyway. It seems to be part of the MID range.
     
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    Even if it's only part of the MID range someone will likely put it in a netbook or ultra-slim (if they're allowed). The only reason more manufacturers don't use the Z530 over the N270 in netbooks now is because it costs twice as much per unit.

    Pineview should just combine the netbook and MID ranges as one Atom offering and split the difference in cost.
     
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    "Pineview" is the code-name for the Netbook platform of Moorestown-derivative devices. So what you said doesn't really work. :p
     
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