AMD Launches ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4000 for Notebooks

AMD Launches ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4000 for Notebooks

2009 International CES - AMD today introduced the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4000 series graphics cards for notebooks. The HD 4000 series supports Microsoft's DirectX 10.1 technology.

The flagship Mobility Radeon HD 4800 series is designed for serious gaming performance. The mid-range HD 4600 delivers a balance between performance and power saving mobility. The HD 4500 and HD 4300 are designed for thin-and-light notebooks. AMD says the new Mobility Radeon HD 4000 series cards deliver up to twice the performance as the HD 3000 series at their respective power levels.

The HD 4800 series features ultra-fast GDDR5 memory; the Mobility Radeon HD 4870 has up to 1.8x the performance of the company's previous flagship, the HD 3870. The Mobility Radeon HD 4870 is the first graphics card to use GDDR5 memory.

More information on the Mobility Radeon HD 4000 series can be found at this web page (not yet available):

• http://www.amd.com/mobility/hd4000

AMD Press Release (BusinessWire.com)

 

the 4870 is going to give an 80% boost in preformance over the 3870!

Am i reading that correctly?

 

Wow, that should be sick. I wonder when we'll first start seeing them in notebooks.

 

Ati FTW...I ll be happy even with 1.5 boost!

 

Nice....This is what I want from ATI.I always like ATI cards.

Good for nVIDIA fanboys coz this will force nvidia to lower their prices

 

ASUS already displayed W90 DTR with ATI HD4870 Crossfire graphics. Others will follow soon

 

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT725-074...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1231519291&sr=8-2

It's been on Zipzoomfly also so it can't be long until release.

 

This is getting really near desktop levels of power... thats a heck of a preformance boost over a single generation. Me likes


[chants] please oh please oh please let the nehelam FX's use a single 4870 instead of the nVidia GPU [/chants]

 

This is great stuff, ATI is doing a bang-up job lately with notebook technology.

Nvidia, pay attention: when ATI introduces products with new names, they are actually new and not mere rebrands of previous generations (or rebrands of rebrands ).

 

so true .....

I hope these cards will beat nVIDIA solutions like what happened in the desktop range

 

Well, the 4850 is supposedly equivalent to Nvidia's best. The 4870 should be a fair bit above based on the better cores and memory.

 

Hope to see these fellas (48XX) on new 16" notebooks.

 

aw man, I wish the new XPS Studio line would use these

 

LOL. Like I said before in the XPS 16 thread....it's not good for sales when people are already waiting for the refresh on your brand new laptop even before it's initial release.

 

I thought 4870 only have GDDR 5 memory over 4850, else it almost the same?
Also isn't 3870 quite close to 9800m GT in performance with decent driver?

 

From someone who thought he was getting a genuinely new GPU instead of a renamed 8600M GT, I agree fully with this statement.

I can has MXM-II HD 4000 sereez?

 

Well, if you're referring to my HP, I knew the 9600 wasn't anything special when I bought it. I was originally going to go with the integrated Intel graphics until I realized I might want to use the laptop for the occasional LAN party.

 

I think he's referring to his own Acer with 9500M GS.

Quicklite, the mobility HD 4870 will simply have higher clocks than the 4850, although they are releasing both GDDR5 and GDDR3 versions if I'm reading correctly from all these press releases.

Mobility HD 4850 will outperform the 9800M GTX if our forum users' benchmarks are correct (Using a downclocked desktop card, it's identical specs), so the 4870 will not just outperform NVidia's top mobile card, it will take it out behind the woodshed with a paddle.

 

amd (ati) is really kiking now days
although there's no bechmark out for mobility HD4000 yet but they are lower speed and lower cosumption of their desktop counterparts, so performance should be in same league. these are my determinations for HD4000 mobility performance based on a year of research of desktop graphics and mobile graphics, let's start

first let me clear up this launch:

*Highend Graphics : HD4800
they have 800!!! sp and only god knows what 800sp can do - and power consumption should be not far away HD3800 series if not improvement . let's dont hope to see them in below 17" notebooks

1- HD4870 desktop outperformed anything from nvidia but monster GTX280, it actually perform up to 5 percent better than GTX260.
since Nvidia not intruduced GTX200 mobile , mobility HD4870 will be fasteeeest GPU in a notebook yet and will receive mighty GDDR5 .
dont expect to see it in any gaming laptop except very high end because it's an overkill!!!! to lower resolution screens.

2- HD4850 desktop outperformed 9800 GTX significantly, so nvidia showed up ocked 9800GTX+ that beated by 4850 too by 1-3 percent, at least it could compete.
mobile counterpart should outperformed anything from Nvidia out there and uses GDDR3 . this card will be used in magority of highend gaming notebooks from Asus,msi,hp,dell,lenovo,... with 17" or bigger with res up to full HD.

*Midhigh Graphics : HD4600
they have 320! sp just like highend prev generation HD3800 - and Big news is that they consum very lower power consumption than HD3800 series - it's magical. they will be in 14" gaming machins(most likely from 15") up to 17" notebooks.

1- HD4670 desktop performed just like hd3850 and 9600GSO.
it's sweet spot and i love it , heck, HD4670 mobility will change mid range from top to bottom . i speak about a little lower performance than 9800GT M, a 7500+ 3dmark06 score will be there if it eated by GDDR3. in worst situations like that hp love to put DDR2 via GPU(dv5t 9600GT underperfored cause crappy DDR2 memory) 4670 performs like 9700GT, a 6000+ 3dmar06. we will se 4670 in mid range gaming noteboks(15.4",15.6",16").

2- HD4650 desktop is not anything except of a 4670 with DDR2 and slighty lower clock core but dont underestimate it, it's very capable.
i think 4650 mobility will be eated by GDDR3 too, but it's up to manufacturer's opinion(lenovo usually like's DDR3 in everything ). it's more like 4670 so let's determine a 3dmark06 score 5200 to 6500(varies by memory type)

*Midlow Graphics : HD4500
they have 120! sp just like midhigh prev generation HD3600 - and beleve me they will consum way lower power consumption than HD3600 series - they will be in 14" to 16" notebooks.

1- HD4570 is something like previous generation HD3660(something between 3650-3670) with richer features and very eficient power consumption and DDR2 of course, let's expect 3000-4000 3dmark06.

2- HD4530 will perform better than HD3470 , up to 3000 3dmark06

*Lowend Graphics : HD4300
they will meager power consumption Graphics. lower than HD3400 series - they will be in 12" to 13"(maybe 14" too) notebooks.

1- HD4330 . everyone heard about AMD Neo and Pavilion DV2.
AMD put HD3410 as discrete Graphics to DV2 with inconsiderable amount of power uasage.
yes 4350 will be successor of 3410 and performs like 3450, so we can expect up to 2200 3dmark06 and minimalistic power needs and when next AMD chipset gone out (RS880G) we will se something it as integrated graphics.

Final Thoughts
few months back when hd4000 desktop arrived, nvidia in order to compete with them suffered from significant price drops of their expensive production cost GTX200 series but they are at least cometitive in desktop performance, but they are nothing in mobile market except new appeared GM100 series. as we dont know much about GM100 series and what's their desktop derivatives except that Nvidia stated out GM130 will be 16 percent Faster than 9600GT. as all of us know 16% isn't even enough to reach 4650 performance level.bad time to nvidia
another disastrous situation comes by faulty mobile Nvidia GPU's last year that causes big loss to nvidia, financial and credential. it was at that moment manufactureres switched to ATI counterpart despite slighty lower performance. you know money is retractable soon but credit takes ages.
if you ask me , i say 2008 was worst year to Nvidia and best Year to ATI

Something else
let's speak some lines about new PhenomII deneb desktop that Launched few days ago.
well it's competes well with Core2 but is a generation behind coreI7, some maybe disappointed but something positive is there. phenomII is lowest consumption quad core processor(platform (tomshardware have a nice review)) per performance, while it's not very important in desktops, consumption is everything in mobile computing. it seems to me that all of AMD Corporation(top to bottom) already tend to consumption(CPU-GPU) Optimization. at the end i have a question :
who dont like a complete notebook that performs better than core 2 duo T9600 that works 5 hours with normal battery at 800$?

 

It's actually not an improvement over the 3870 in terms of power since the 4870 is 75W TDP as opposed to the former's 55W. While the 48xx series outperformed their nVidia counterpart, it did so at the expense of a higher power consumption which led to more heat and noise. The 46xx series though, should be very interesting!

 

off course, that's right . hd4800 have 800 sp and 956 million transistor against hd3800's 320 sp and 666 mil transistor . in reality there's no way(maybe very very .... hard) that without a die shrink and despite more than double sp's and 50% more transistor consumes less or equal pick power! it's all optimizations. it means that you pick something power hungry and reach to something acceptable. if hd4800 manufactured in 45nm definitely it consumes less power at it's pick power.
all i said is that with better optimization it's all round(idle,half,full)consumption will not be very diffrent from hd3800 more or less.

 

the mobility hd4670 is downclocked compared to the desktop versions, expect about 6-7k in 3dmark06.

 

Wow, hopefully these will run better, in terms of temperatures, than their desktop counterparts.

It's nice to see AMD stepping up as a competitor. Hopefully when NVIDIA takes notice, they do their part and improve their products and make sure something like the Geforce 8xxx mess never happens again.

 

*ahem*

I think you mean the GT 130M.

 

The HD 48xx uses the same 55nm process. They just lower the clocks so that voltage can be dropped, hence the lower than desktop TDP. If they do switch to 40nm, then the TDP might drop again nearer to the HD 38xx.

 

I hope they release some decent drivers with these!

 

I don't supposed anyone has any news on whether they have multiple versions of the 48xx series? I hear the ones displayed at CES were MXM 3..0. And yet I'm currently waiting on an OCZ whitebook (a week and counting, probably a day or two to cancel), that is only MXM 2.1?

Also, I'm more than willing to cancel my order, if its impossible to upgrade the OCZ's 3870's. Any words of advice would be much appreciated.

 

From what I've heard, I doubt you will be able to upgrade since the new 48xx series has a TDP of 75W, which is greater than the supported TDP of the OCZ's MXM slow.

edit: new link with more details (German)

http://news.ati-forum.de/index.php/...en/236-ati-mobility-radeon-hd4000-vorgestellt

 

I wouldn't call this definitive GOOD news for us present/future OCZ owners, but it's something.

http://www.rkcomputer.net/rkcnotebooks/index.php?l=product_detail&p=95

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