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    Hp Envy 14- i5 swap to i7 core

    Discussion in 'Notebook Cosmetic Modifications and Custom Builds' started by Comancheflyer, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. Comancheflyer

    Comancheflyer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey! I have a question for you guys.. I own a HP envy 14-1111NR and i have to say that i absolutely love this computer- It's one of the few computers HP has made that isn't crap :D. anyways my love for it hasn't stopped it from getting old.. its almost 3 now, and i've been trying to give it life by upgrading some things such as the RAM and things. Ive been looking at the the processor and from what i'm seeing it isnt too great.. its an i5-m460 @ 2.53 ghz turbo up to 2.8.. its seems low..

    My point here is- i want to upgrade to a half decent i7- can i do it? i know that in the manual it says it can use the i7.. if its possible let me know! much appreciated

    socket is a 989 rPGA
    Intel HM55 exprss chipset...
    Its a havendale/clarkdale bridge i think...

    Any advice is much appreciated guys! thanks! :)
     
  2. Kirrr

    Kirrr Notebook Deity

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    Yes, you can upgrade to first generation dualcore (620m, 640m) or quadcore (720qm, 740qm, 820qm, 840qm) i7. But you will need the bigger powersupply for the quadcore I think.
     
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    So it would drain my battery quicker right? and thanks for the reply! :)
     
  4. Kirrr

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    The Quads, yes and generate more heat. The Dual Core i7's are nearly the same as the i5.

    As for upgrading the cpu, I only recommend it if you can get the cpu very, very cheap. Maybe the best: upgrade to a 640m (if you find one for a really good price) + an SSD and the system will fly.
     
  5. Comancheflyer

    Comancheflyer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alrighty i'll look into that specific processor and a solid state. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
     
  6. jotm

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    The HP service manual lists different system boards for i5 and i7 processors - one model runs i3 and i5 processors, while another runs only i7 processors.

    From my experience with both Elitebooks and Pavilions, HP is dead serious about this - the boards are either physically different or they have CPU whitelists, so it's highly likely you won't be able to run a quad core i7 on the i5 system board. Maybe, just maybe the i7 640m would work, but make sure you can return the CPU you buy in case it doesn't work.
     
  7. Kirrr

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    I don't think so, but anyway the dual core i7's should work. Because there's no difference in power consumption and its the same socket. Maybe the power layout for the socket is different on the i7 ones. Like in older dualcore vs. quadcore MSI gamint systems which was a pain in the a55 to get the right motherboard.
     
  8. Comancheflyer

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    I looked into the specific envy that I have-- it says it can carry the chips like the dual core i7 but also the quad cores.. shouldn't i be able to throw in any processor they list? I mean it is considered a compatible processor.. so why shouldn't it work?
     
  9. Kirrr

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    For Quads you need the 120W powerbrick. I think there's no other issue with quads. The different powerlining around the socket is just a theory...
     
  10. jotm

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    HP are really anal about system boards - if it says it only supports dual cores, they mean it.

    Either they use just enough components to power a dual core or they limit the CPUs in the firmware. The 8540w can't be upgraded from i5 dual to i7 quad core, for example, and neither can the 8560w or the Pavilion DV7. Dell doesn't do this.

    However, as I said, you should try it, maybe the situation is different on the Envy.
     
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    This is a bad idea, concerning the processor mod, the socket is the same, so physically the processor will fit. The power difference will be minimal, so the current adapter will not require replacement. However, the integrated graphics with a quad core, differs from the dual core, the northbridge chipset will not sink with the i5 chipset. The computer will not post if you go with a quad core. A dual core i7 will work however.
     
  13. LTBonham

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    People are correct here about upgrading Mobo to accept a quad core processor. I have a dv6 3143 which came with a dual core. There are quad core versions of my laptop, but the mobo's have additional components on them that mine does not.

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    See the red circles. Yours will probably have similar issues as mine.


    The extra HDD would probably work. That looks interesting.
     
  14. Aeny

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    Dell doesn't do this? :mad: Try upgrading a 1464/1564/1764 to quads, support for quads has been compiled OUT of the bios. There's a myth that it worked on older BIOS versions that magically dissapeared. Anyways, crossflashing the bios to a 1558 allows the machine to post halfway (due to differing southbridges) instead of refusing to boot.

    So for a HP.. if you can get a cheap quad core it's worth a try. Besides the CPU "upgrade" it may also be worth it for the extra 8GB that it supports. (arrandale=2x4gb max, clarksfield=2x8gb max). Maybe you can borrow a quad from someone you know to try this?
    ~Aeny
     
  15. jotm

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    @Aeny I did not know that. I know they use the same hardware (specifically the CPU power supply) for both quad and dual CPUs, and many have upgraded successfully to quad cores AND newer graphics cards in the Precision line - but that's a business laptop. I guess they want normal consumers to purchase a whole new laptop once their CPU becomes slow enough...