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    xbox ethernet cable

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by mogger, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. mogger

    mogger Notebook Guru

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    I noticed that the grey ethernet cable that was included with my xbox 360 elite only has 3 wires in it, not 8.

    Why is this? And will this ethernet cable work just like any other?
     
  2. blue68f100

    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's a cat 3 cable.
     
  3. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    A cat3 cable has 6 wires, or three twisted pairs.

    I have no idea what kind of cable that is that you are referring to....I've never seen an xbox come with a 3-wire cable (not that I've seen all that many xboxes)
     
  4. Ole man

    Ole man Notebook Evangelist

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    No, it has 4. 2 orange and 2 green.
     
  5. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Right, this is what I was thinking...maybe it was actually 4 and the OP missed a wire. I have read/heard that Cat5 ethernet cables only actually use 2 pairs (4) of the wires for actual transmission of data. So in theory if you wire the 2 pairs needed the cable should work just fine....I have never tested the theory myself though.
     
  6. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I'm not a cable guy ;) but from what I know Cat 3 has 4 pairs just like cat 5 has but only two are used. The difference between Cat 5 and Cat 3 would be the operational frequency of 16MHz for Cat 3 and up to 100 MHz for Cat 5.
    Anyway- for all I know there is no cable that has 3 cables.

    Isn't the cable sold with Xbox a crossover cable?
     
  7. crazycanuk

    crazycanuk Notebook Virtuoso

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    It will have 4 wires in it, ( 2 pairs ) orange and green if using the 568-A or 568-B, format. Lots of the cheapo cables will only have 2 of 4 pairs actually in it.

    Pins 1,2,3 and 6 are used for 10BT and 100 BTX ethernet, the green pair (568- B ) is transmit + & - , orange is recieve + & -

    for 1000 base all 4 pairs are used

    http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/ethernetcables.html

    FYI in your 8 conductor 10 and 100 cables you CAN power devices ( POE ), run a phone line or even a second network link through the extra 2 pairs, as long as you are familiar with data cabling and the pinouts.


    Nope all I have seen are 568-B straight throughs to hook into your router or Cable/DSL modem
     
  8. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    Really, the number of wires used does not identify the the category of cable. I've got a piece of category 3 cable in my hand and it has 6 wires. It is intended for use for multi-line phone systems, hence I suspect, the extra two wires.

    Digging through an old box, I found another cat3 cable with four wires.


    I think the lesson I have learned is that the amount of wires used is not the determining factor, but the bandwitdh supported. Still wondering what the OP's cable is, though
     
  9. crazycanuk

    crazycanuk Notebook Virtuoso

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    Correct, you have to have a certain MINIMUM of conductors, I have CAT3 with 4,6 and 8 wires in it for phone systems.
    the CAT rating had more to do with bandwidth, resistance and maximum run length then the number of conductors within the cables.

    I am quite certain the OP has a 4 conductor CAT 5, and the company that mfg'd the cables for MS just skimped on the copper to save money as those extra 3 conductors are NOT needed for 10/100
     
  10. mogger

    mogger Notebook Guru

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    Sorry guys, my bad, I didn't take a good enough look before.
    The cable does have 4 wires(2GreenWhite+2OrangeWhite)

    BTW this is the MS ethernet cable that comes with the xbox elite.

    Thanks for educating me.
     
  11. crazycanuk

    crazycanuk Notebook Virtuoso

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    hey anytime, and enjoy that new found knowledge to confuse your friends
     
  12. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Hmm...and here all along I was thinking that maybe it was M$'s request to have those particular cables made for their XBox use so THEY can save $. :rolleyes: :p

    ...But I guess you can look at it either way. Someone is saving! :)