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    suggestions on router?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by dwpittman3, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. dwpittman3

    dwpittman3 Newbie

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    I have a wired network at home at this point, but just got my laptop with built in G.

    Just looking to figure out whether I should get a G, superG, or draft N router to start my network. Looks like the price range would be about $50-$150 depending on what I go with. I will spend the extra $ if it will be worth it, but don't want to spend more if there won't be much benefit.

    It will be mostly for internet access, don't think I will be feeding much media through the connection, but I am concerned about range. I have medium-sized house, and would mostly be using the computer at the other end of the house, about 40' away, and on another floor.

    Any tips on what to stay away from, or go for? Does N appear to give that much of a benefit on range?

    Any help would be great.

    Thanks.
     
  2. jetstar

    jetstar Notebook Deity

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    There are quite a few models to choose from. Linksys, Netgear and D-Link make the best routers.
     
  3. dwpittman3

    dwpittman3 Newbie

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    Thanks for the reply, but I was more interested in general results people have had with G vs. superG vs. draft N type routers.

    At what distance do you generally start to have issues with speed with each type?
     
  4. spikespeigel

    spikespeigel Notebook Enthusiast

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    Beware the Linksys broadband router. The model is WRT54G. I picked one up from Best Buy and when I hooked it up, it wouldn't connect. After three or so hours with the Linksys customer service, it was determined that the firmware was out of date. It was a pain to update since I needed both my internet provider and Linksys on the phone at the same time to fix. Just a heads up.
     
  5. WackyT

    WackyT Notebook Deity

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    Never had any problems setting up the couple dozen WRT54Gs I've set up over the years. I find them solid little wireless routers. What I hate are those no-name $10 with a $10 MIR routers. Talk about garbage!
     
  6. blue68f100

    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

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    In order to use the SuperG you need a matching card, the same goes for 11n. My advise is just add a 11g AP to your existing wired router. Linksys has turned into a crap shoot ever since they moved away Linux firmware and cut the ram in 1/2.

    Shooting through floors can me hard depending on material. Just make sure the AP has at a min 5dbi gain antennas.
     
  7. dwpittman3

    dwpittman3 Newbie

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    so superG requires a card outside what came in my laptop? i was thinking it was just something to extend the range with antennas.

    i have built in b/g wlan in my hp dv6225us.
     
  8. ZJChaser

    ZJChaser Notebook Consultant

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    The 54G is a solid basic router, I too have install probably 50-60 of them.

    I would recomend a MiMo type router. Even without the matching card they do increase the range over a basic G setup. With the matching card they are awesome.

    I've had great luck with the SRX series from Linksys.
     
  9. Reezin14

    Reezin14 Crimson Mantle Commander

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    If you do decide to go for a Linksys model I would suggest the WRT54GL model, they're a bit harder to find(I looked everywhere), but I just ordered one from newegg for $61 bucks.
     
  10. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you want a great Wireless G Router get the linksys WRT54GS, awesome router.
     
  11. tphilly1984

    tphilly1984 Notebook Evangelist

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    stay away from D-link routers- experience = bad
     
  12. geekydude

    geekydude Notebook Geek

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    First of all, you said your laptop wireless supports N. Does it also specifically say it supports 108Mbps (Super G)? The reason is only Atheros chipset wireless card would support Super G. If your laptop wireless card does indeed use an Atheros chipset, the laptop specification would explicitly mention either 108Mbps, or "Super G". If there's no mention of either, then you can forget about using Super G, even if you get a router that supports Super G, because your laptop will not support it.

    Second, it seems that wireless range is your main concern, and you're not doing any heavy BT and doesn't use things like VoIP. If that's the case, then I would highly recommend the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 which sells for $55 at buy.com ($45 with Google Checkout discount). This router comes with a built-in amplifier for both reception and transmission, and the antenna it comes with is 4dBi which is really good. Both the dd-wrt and the Tomato firmware work really well with this model to give you excellent range. Everyone who's used this router has commented that they're really impressed by its range.

    I would recommend staying away from the Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS. These used to be good routers but not anymore, because Linksys has severely decreased its RAM and flash while retaining the same model number. For example, the WRT54GS these days sell for $90, and you get only 2MB flash, which severely limits your ability to flash it to third party firmwares (do-able but only with special versions that are extremely stripped down). You may say, I'm okay with using the stock Linksys firmware. But let me caution you that the Linksys firmware is still quite buggy and there may be some issue that would force you to look into third party firmware. (For example, there are people who cannot get their VPN clients to work with the stock Linksys firmware no matter what. Once they flash to third party firmware, the VPN client works fine. If you've used VPN with your job, you know that the client choice is dictated by what VPN solution your employer has picked. For example, if they had chosen a Cisco solution, then you need to use the Cisco VPN client. If you cannot get the Cisco VPN client to work with your home router, then basically you cannot do any work from home.) To get a better idea, just go to the forums at the Linksys official website and see for yourself what issues people are having.

    The WRT54GL is pretty good. But for the price of $60, I would rather get the Buffalo WHR-G54S from Newegg for $40 shipped, which has exactly the same hardware (same CPU, same 4MB flash, same 16MB RAM) and in addition, comes with the 4dBi antenna which gives you much better reception than the WRT54GL.

    So to summarize, if you want really good range, get the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 for $55 at buy.com. If you want to save 15 bucks and still get good range, just not terrific range, then you can go with the Buffalo WHR-G54S for $40 at Newegg.

    If you want a draft-N router, I would recommend either the D-Link DIR-655 ($120 at Circuit City) or the Linksys WRT350N ($165 at buy.com, which is what I'm using right now). But frankly, while you may get better speed with a draft-N router, you may not even get better range than the $55 Buffalo WHR-HP-G54.
     
  13. WackyT

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    "Manufacturers that have licensed Super G technology from Atheros include Clipsal, D-Link, Netgear, Nortel Networks, Planex, SMC, Sony, SparkLAN, and Toshiba. In general, Super G products from different vendors are all interoperable in Super G mode."
    Super G (wireless networking)
     
  14. geekydude

    geekydude Notebook Geek

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    A manufacturer usually has products that use different chipsets though. The easiest way to tell whether it's Atheros based is to look for the terms "108Mbps" or "Super-G".
     
  15. Joi77

    Joi77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I recently bought three of the Linksys WRT54G routers (all v.6 - I know, I know, but couldn't find 2-4) and am happy with them so far. I hooked one up in my home, one in my parents' home, and one in my boyfriend's and everyone's pleased. I had never installed a router before and found the setup to be pretty painless (keep the manual up and use the handy-dandy Linksys website if you get confused. I did when it came to setting up wireless security). Once I had mine setup, the other two were quick and easy!

    I'm no expert on range (or routers for that matter) but I drove to my mailbox to see if I could connect and while I didn't have the full 54.0, I connected and surfed with no probs.