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    killer wireless card always sucked? (and another question)

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by ichangedmyname, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. ichangedmyname

    ichangedmyname Notebook Consultant

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    My msi gs70 has killer ac 1525. it works as expected

    i always had intel wireless card other than when i had alienware x51 which had realtek? (i think)

    That alienware was upgraded to intel wireless card promptly because it didn't have 5GHz and having 5ghz when there is a microwave sucks

    now my msi gs70 has killer wireless card, my first time using it, and my first time experience isn't good.

    sometimes it randomly just disappears from system, like i cant find it from device manager

    it happened 3 times this week
    and it happened once when i put laptop to sleep then restarted router and when i resumed laptop, wireless card disappeared. Other two times, I'm not sure

    first time, i opened it up, and removed wireless card, started the computer, shut it down, and put the wireless card back, and it works again

    now, i found out that i could go to bios and reset to original settings as i exit the bios, and it works again too
    bios is up to date btw

    msi support is kinda useless and they just said, i can send it for rma




    also, another question, i have a hp elite x2 1012 with intel ac8260, and i have a hp wireless dock which uses intel wigig. Wigig is only supported on intel wireless card like ac18260 and ac18265, but those work together, when they aren't supposed to, what happened here..... (kinda disappointing that the dock has a fan while the tablet itself doesnt and range is like 1m)
     
  2. smoking2k

    smoking2k Notebook Consultant

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    Instead of sending your laptop away I would just bit the bullet and spend the 30$ on a new intel one. You could try the latest generic drivers for that card from the killer website instead of using the msi ones.
     
  3. ichangedmyname

    ichangedmyname Notebook Consultant

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    i dont mind spending $30 on intel one. but im just wondering if all killer sucks this way or is it only mine and the rma will fix it. when it is working, it works just like intel one (obv)

    yea i think the driver i was using is what was installed originally so i installed one directly from killer website
     
  4. smoking2k

    smoking2k Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think all killers have these problems might just be yours. Pretty hard to say unless someone here has the same laptop and card as you. The cost to ship it to them for the rma and the time lost for not having it also risking who knows how competent a tech rummaging around in your machine is not worth it just replace it your self.
     
  5. ichangedmyname

    ichangedmyname Notebook Consultant

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    i have other laptops that i could use temporarily and i was thinking of just dropping it off at msi service center..

    ill see what happens because i just updated driver
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    This is the best $30 USD I spent on my laptop:

    Just upgraded to an Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265

    Read about the Killer WLAN card issue in the link in that thread from the Alienware forums. I had the same problem with my Killer AC 1535, if it was under heavy load like many simultaneous downloads, the freakin' card just disables itself from the device manager until I reboot.

    The only thing Killer about Killer WLAN cards is they kill connections :rolleyes:
     
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  7. ichangedmyname

    ichangedmyname Notebook Consultant

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    best thing ive ever heard. well i might as well upgrade to ac 18265 because i have the hp wireless dock using wigig.

    when i opened it up, it had 2 antennae but ac18265 has three, what would happen then. some cheap laptops have 1 antennae connected to dual band wireless card and it works fine, so i guess ac18265 with 2 antennae could work as well?

    still clueless why hp elite x2 1012 with ac8260 connects to the wireless dock
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    yesterday, a friend of mine complained to me that he internet is laggy and slow.

    So I logged into his system using TeamViewer and guess what? he had the Killer Software, it has set all his apps to priority 4 (below medium) except for Steam and Origin. so then we started setting all the apps to priority 1 to give them full bandwidth, then we noticed there are too many apps and we got bored. Next, we uninstalled the Killer Software Suite and just installed the drivers manually. He was amazed how snappy his internet became, he told me it's like you just upgraded my bandwidth by double! He couldn't be happier! I feel sorry for people who are using that piece of junk app that's throttling most their apps.

    When I use an app, I want it to have full bandwidth, period. It's not like we're on dial up or old DSL connections, most of us have super fast connections and we want to use it to the max.
     
  9. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Almost all issues with Killer are fixed by uninstalling their crap software suite, and just installing the standalone driver package.

    I just did this a couple months ago, wish I'd come across this revelation 2 years ago. Poof, no more random disconnects.
     
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  10. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Which makes them just ordinary Atheros cards they are to begin with... ;)
     
  11. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    I know, which is my main gripe on these Killer cards, if you use their buggy (since years) Killer Suite, you get issues like disconnections, and previously BSODs on my Alienware 18.

    If you just install the Killer Suite, they become a normal Atheros card so all these great features that they market are pointless. Their drivers team needs to get fired and hire a new team. Great hardware, spoiled by buggy drivers/Suite
     
  12. ichangedmyname

    ichangedmyname Notebook Consultant

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    after i installed standalone driver without the killer app, it seems to be working fine,,,, (for now)

    next time it refuses to show up on device manager, im buying intel one on ebay
     
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    no offer, bought two of em immediately for the listed price, I think it was 30 USD per piece

    I don't bargain on cheap things like these or make offers.
     
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    yotano21 Notebook Evangelist

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    cool thz
     
  18. Luraundo

    Luraundo Notebook Consultant

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    It worked fine for me on Windows 7. It kept cutting off on Windows 10.
     
  19. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    My killer card has been fine on Windows 8.1 and 10... No connectivity issues Wifi wise, bluetooth was difficult to set up but is better now..
     
  20. Luraundo

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    It started working properly at some point when I was using Windows 10. I deleted the Killer Suite and it maintained an 100% connection uptime from there.

    I just decided to install Windows 7 since setting up Windows 10 with a clean install is not my cup of tea.
     
  21. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Disable advanced stream detect, thats what causes issues...

    I think the best way is to use the base drivers without the suite, thr suite doesn't add much Tbh..

    Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
     
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    ZeneticX Notebook Evangelist

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