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    how to setup the network with 2 different brand router

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by dchuns, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. dchuns

    dchuns Newbie

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    I'm using Telus as ISP
    They give me a dlink hardwire router
    so i add linksys wireless for my laptop.
    the problem i having is I cannot use my laptop to access the files that connect to hardwire router computers. When i setup the network I make sure they are using the same group name. What can I do??
    All the computers and laptop can access to the internet no problem.....but my laptop cannot use the printer. Please help......... Thank you.
     
  2. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    If you turn off DHCP on your Linksys, and just use it as an access point you should be able to access your printer and other computers. Right now with two routers in the network your network has got to be a mess...

    Phil
     
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    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    shudder...I see bad things happening with that setup
     
  4. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    dchuns you should NEVER ever have two routers on ONE network it causes all kinds of bad things to occur. On your Linksys Wireless router (TURN OFF DHCP) as soon as possible. The DHCP server assigns IP addresses to the computers and devices connecting to your network. By having both the D-link and the Linksys both trying to assign IP addresses you are causing a huge problem for the network.

    Picture trying to have people speak in English and Chinese at the SAME TIME there can only be one router running to prevent this mess.
     
  5. dchuns

    dchuns Newbie

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    on my setup page for linksys

    are you talking about the option for
    internet Connection Type : the default is "Automatic Configuration - DHCP"
    what should i change to : Static IP, PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP and Telstra Cable.

    For the Network Address Server Settings(DHCP)
    for DHCP Server: I choose "Disable"
     
  6. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Yes choose DISABLE for DHCP server, and that should make your Linksys router just an access point. It will then just be a wireless bridge between your wired network (pc's, printer, etc.), and your laptop. I would then reboot FIRST your ROUTER, after that is up, then reboot your LINKSYS access point. Also disabled the SPI firewall on the Linksys router; You should be good to go then.
     
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    dchuns Newbie

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    I follow what you told me...i still cannot connect to the printer
     
  8. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Is your SPI firewall turned off on the router. Is your printer networked, or is it shared from a PC? If it is shared is it a Vista or XP computer? Your laptop does it have Vista or XP?
     
  9. blue68f100

    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I don't know what the fuss is. I have been daisy chaining routers with dhcp for years now. What you must be aware of is that you can go out but not back in the lower routers. The SPI Firewalls will block you. You must also make sure that if you cloned a mac address into a lower router it must be cleared out. Can not have 2 pc with the same mac address on the same network. You gain a lot of security using dual routers. It's done quite often if you have old 11b (WEP) clients. You can put them on the the first (main router) and have all WPA on the lower routes. This way the 11b will not kill the speed of the 11g clients. This can be used in small business to isolate groups on a limited budget. Like accounting behind a double firewall.

    Now if your wanting to share a printer it must be on the main incoming router. The same applies if you want to share files. If you have a NAS on the main level all users can connect to it. But if you attach it to the lower routers only those clients on that router can contact it. You can always have a FTP server running on any level, this works due to port (21) forwarding.

    If you want to just expand a network using routers. The easiest is to turn off DHCP on the lower router and connect lan to lan. This will allow the Main router to handle all DHCP request. And the Second router is now just a switch.

    Wireless clients can not connect to wired. This is a privacy (security) feature on some routers. Very useful if you setup a hotspot in a shop and do not want wireless clients to have access to employees wired pc's.
     
  10. philfna

    philfna Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    I would agree with your eloquent answer, but for the common beginner I think the best answer is that it is NOT advised to be running two DHCP servers on the same network. Clearly, in this case the user is having some issues. If you read my comments I had outlined a similar scenario as you are outlining with turning off the DHCP server on the second switch / router, and using it as an ACCESS POINT / SWITCH.

    Good answer though!

    Phil