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    do all wireless n routers support 300Mbs

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by AppleUsr, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. AppleUsr

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    I set up a wireless N router for our network. every pc in the house says 144-150Mbs. My sisters N card says its capable of 300Mbs. however she is only connecting at 144-150Mbs like the rest of us. so my question is does anyone know why she may be only getting half the speed her card is capable of. is it a setting or maybe the router isnt good enough?
     
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    Afaik, all recent N routers support 300mbps, some older draft N equipment might not though. That being said, there is more to getting 300mbps than having only 300mbps compatible equipment.

    What router/adapters do you have and have you made sure that channel bonding is enabled on both the router and the adapter settings? Also if there are multiple wireless networks in range, getting 300mbps might not be possible due to interference.
     
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    under what would channel bonding be listed i didnt see this setting. is this a setting on the firmware or a setting in windows. there is 2 networks in range of us and they are really weak.
     
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    Channel bonding or channel width would be the same, you should have the options for 20MHz, auto and/or 40MHz. Ideally, set to 40MHz, if you don't have the 40MHz option, set to auto.

    If you are using a mac as suggested by your username, can't help you for the settings of the adapter. For the router, i could take a screenshot of where to find it on a linksys E series router, but not for other routers. In any case, look for a 20/Auto/40Mhz option.
     

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    Unfortunately entry level routers still support only 150mbps. It's sometimes referred to as "n lite" so be sure to check that the one you want to buy does support it.
    The same goes for cheap wireless cards- you can still find some that only support 1T1R which limits you to 150mbps.
     
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    I stand corrected ;).
     
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    I was messing with the settings today and i got every computer in the house was showing 300Mbps. then about an hour later is dropped to 150ish again. I didnt do anything to change it. no idea what happened. it seems to fluctuate really bad.
     
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    There will always be fluctuation in wireless signals. Depending on the distance from the router or access point as to how much. The cutting in half and all computers at the same time is odd.
     
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    yea i cant figure it out. its a duel band router with both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz frequencies. there is alot of settings. the only thing i can think of is i have channels on both 2.4 and 5 ghz on auto. the way its setup though the channels cant pick anything to close to each other. although im showing 144Mbps and not 300 im still getting good download speeds. couple mb a second not kb.
     
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    You've never mentioned the actual router brand and model.
     
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    Potential sources of interference include other 802.11 routers, microwave ovens, cordless phones, wireless gas and water meters, bluetooth, etc, etc.

    Any device that uses 2.4gz or 5.8gz within say 100 meters has the potential to mess up 802.11anything.
     
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    95% of the interference.
     
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    sorry its a linksys s3200 i believe. i also changed one more thing. both the 2.4 ghz and the 5 ghz had the same network name. so there was no way to tell what you were connected to. so i changed the 5 ghz network name and i discovered something. my laptop is the only one that seems to see the 5 ghz network frequency. everyone else is connected to wireless n through the 2.4 ghz. i thought all wireless n cards supported the 5 ghz but maybe they dont. the other n computers dont even see it.
     
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    You mean Linksys E3200?
    This one definitely supports 300mbps on both bands.

    You may need to change a wireless channel to get a free on an if possible not an overlapping one. If there are too many APs running it would be advisable to use E3200's 5GHz capability although that may require some hardware upgrades as most wireless cards don't support 5GHz.
     
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    sorry yes e3200. yes it seems only my mac pro can see the 5ghz and connect. i will have to discuss it with the family if its worth upgrading everyone else to 5 ghz.
     
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    I can tell you straight away that it's not unless you either have a super-fast Internet connection or do a lot of LAN transfers ans 150mbps is limiting you.
    Other than that 300mbps might make you feel better but will not make any noticeable difference (other than faster LAN transfers).
     
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    The only other reason to switch to 5GHz would be interference causing connection loss on 2.4GHz. In you case, it doesn't seem to be worth it. Anyways, upgrading to 5GHz compatible equipment will cost ~$20 per adapter so if you have 3 or 4 computers, it adds up fast. Also, not all of your computers might be upgradeable by yourself, a MBP sure isn't...
     
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    well i wouldnt have to upgrade the mac pro as its already connecting on the 5 ghz frequency. I understand what you mean though. Since the network setup is new everyone is jumpy. the slightest thing like a site being down and they panic. no i will not fix your computer ;)
     
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    In my experience, most computer related problems by standard users are what i would call a code 18: the problem is 18" away from the monitor :p.

    Personally, i switched to 5GHz because of interference from the cordless phone and i also transfer files through the network regularly and not all the computers can be wired to the modem so wireless throughput was something i was after. Other than that, there are no reasons to switch the adapters in your PCs.

    Just out of curiosity, when you say mac pro, do you mean mac pro or macbook pro? Since the mac pros are desktops, i assume changing components would be easy enough, not that you need to, just curious.
     
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    sorry macbook pro.
     
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    Yeah, thankfully, you already have the option of 5GHz, opening one of those looks quite the project if you do it yourself.
     
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    yeah!5ghz rockz