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    conceptual questions about internet connection

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by kenny1999, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. kenny1999

    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hello

    When I connect through the internet with my desktop PC through cable broadband in which the ISP provides dynamic IP address, when I connect to any websites, applications or services with the desktop PC (that should not have GPS I believe), what is the location information that the website could get the best? WITHOUT GPS and WITHOUT any third party like ISP providing the information, considering only the programming and technology alone, and they are NOT hackers. In that case, I know the websites could not detect my precise locations, however, could they get any information from the connection to "fingerprint" my location.

    I think I have complicated my description above.

    In other words, assume I have two computers or one computer with virtual machines, but I have only one broadband connection here. When I connect the computers to a particular website, service, or application with that broadband connection, could the remote side detect and find out that the two computers are actually from the same location?? Someone said the remote server could get information from my router and "fingerprint“ my connection, in other words, they will not know your exact location but they will know you are at the same location with different computers.

    What I can do to make it look like coming from two different locations (in the same country or different) when I have only one broadband connection


    (the website/service requires me to download and install something like digital certificates before I can login)
     
  2. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    You will be traceable to the same computer because you will be seen as a single IP address.
    Your router will have one IP and regardless how many computers are on your LAN. Having multiple devices at hoe connecting to the same gateway will result as all of them being seen as a single external IP.

    The answer to your question is exactly the same as it was previously - you need a VPN.
     
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    Even though your IP from the ISP is "dynamic", it's often the same for long periods of time. All dynamic means is that they can assign a different one if they feel like it or it's convenient for them, not that it's definitely changing regularly.

    Just FYI.


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  4. kenny1999

    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    I can understand that with different devices on the same cable broadband I will be having the same single IP which is traceable to the same location.

    However, as I know, many people could have the same IP address at the same time or different time. So that at any time, when I am having this IP address, at the other side of my country , there could be someone who I don't know at all, having the same IP address as me.

    Could the website, service, application detect and find out that we are the different person? Or will we be recognized as coming from the same precise location?
     
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    Well not exactly like that. It all depends on an ISP - if each user gets public IP than only your router will have that IP at the time (and therefore all the devices on your home network).
    If on the other hand ISP assigns internal IPs to modems/routers on the network and the traffic is then routed through their proxy, a lot of people will be seen as using the same IP at the same time.
    That said it will be people from your neighborhood - those proxies service a certain area - not necessarily as small as a district but one city will definitely have more than one such server/gateway.

    As for dynamic public IP - sometimes these are assigned within a certain territory as well. If you resolve them you can see a node or another indication of its location (i.e. 278.878.686.seattle.comcast.net - I made that one up just for illustration purposes). Other ISPs might make it completely dynamic and the same IP might be assigned at the other side of your country minutes after you've disconnected.

    You would need to know how your ISP assigns IPs.