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    Wireless cannot connect outside

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by GF[BE], May 14, 2008.

  1. GF[BE]

    GF[BE] Notebook Consultant

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    Hello

    I have this weird problem with my wireless connection. When I'm using my laptop in the living room, my wireless connection is great. However, when I go outside (5-10m) the wireless connection gets stuck at "identifying" although my connection is "excellent".

    I have the latest drivers provided by the manufacturer. It used to work great, but a few days ago it decided not to connect anymore.

    Does anyone know what causes this and how to solve it?

    GF[BE]
     
  2. Wirelessman

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    Have you done any updates before the problem arose?
     
  3. GF[BE]

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    Nope, I didn't update the wireless thingy as far as I remember.
    I find it very strange that it works in my living room and not outside while the connection is almost the same ...
     
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    I don't want to lose you giving you a deep technical explanation, but try this, change the rf channel, your system is probably setup with channel 11, try a lower channel and see what happens.
     
  5. GF[BE]

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    Will try that tomorrow, it's raining atm.
    Btw, the router is set at a 20mhz channel. Is it better to set it at 40mhz?
     
  6. Wirelessman

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    More bandwitdh is always better to get more of the desired signal energy, however interference/noise it also spread over the 40MHz, so I don't think it will change anything in your case, unless you were in an interference/noise free environment.
     
  7. GF[BE]

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    Now I have the same problem inside. I connect and the router gets stuck at "Identifying". After this is done, I get a "local only" connection and cannot connect to the Internet.

    What's wrong? Faulty hardware?
     
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    1. Set your bandwidth for 20/40 MHz.

    2. Go to device manager and verify that your adapters are mounted properly.

    3. Reset your router.
     
  9. GF[BE]

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    1: I cannot look up the address of the router and cannot change the settings.

    2: what should I look for?

    3: Tried that, no result.
     
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    Enter 192.168.1.1, this should get you into the router, you will have to enter your user id and password to get in.

    You look if the adapters are working properly, when they don't then you would see an ! beside the icon.

    How did you reset the router, did you press a small push button in a little hole for about 20 sec? (the button is normally in the back of the router)
     
  11. GF[BE]

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    Nope, I just pulled the plug like Vista advised me :p

    *edit* tried changing channels but the problem remains ...
     
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    Pulling the plug won't do it, try reseting it.
     
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    I reset the router, but I still have "local only" access ...
     
  14. Wirelessman

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    Ok, then let's try one more thing, go in dos and execute an ipconfig and post the data.
     
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    Yes, in this case dos = cmd.

    It looks from your image that you're running IPv6 on your laptop, which may be the cause of your problem if the router cannot handle IPv6, or if your laptop is not properly wrapping the IPv6 packets in an IPv4 wrapper. Do you need IPv6? If not, try disabling it and going just with IPv4.
     
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    Yes, try to disable IPv6 and ipconfig again.

    I don't see any DNS activity neither, see your adapter what option you have for DNS, if this is not working, there is no way for the server to know what page you are trying to get, the web site name must be translated and the DNS server is responsible for that.
     
  18. GF[BE]

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    I don't even know what IPv6 is :D
    I'll try IPv4 and DNS. Thanks! (@ work atm)
     
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    IPv6 is the standard which will replace IPv4. You see these IPv6 and 4 in your client adapters, just open the device manager and look for network adpaters and click on the adapters and do the changes suggested.
     
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    There are several options that for IPv4. I don't know what to do.
    Adapter = Marvel Yukon Ethernet adapter.
     
  21. Softix

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    where can i find those channels? I tried many times but didn't saw any.
     
  22. GF[BE]

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    Choose the Wireless tab and then one of the "subtabs".

    Wirelessman, can you please explain me in details how to do change the Ipv6 thingy? My neighbour is on smallband (wasn't me!) and I need a good connection for my work ...
     
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    I'm not as good as wirelessman, but I'll try to get you headed in the right direction. I don't have/use _Vista so my directions are based on XP and what I think I recall about _Vista. What you need to do is get to the window that displays your "network connections" - this should show at least two interfaces, ethernet (wired) and wireless. You will then right-click on the wireless interface icon, and a context menu should pop up. On that menu should be an item called "properties." Left-click on "properties" and a window that looks like this:
    View attachment 19131
    should pop up. In that window you should see several ticked boxes (yours may differ from mine), including one that says something like "Microsoft TCP/IP version 6" (or, it may say "Internet Protocol (TCP/IPv6)").

    First make sure that you have another line item in that set of ticked boxes that says something like "Internet Protocol (TCP/IPv4)" - if not, the first thing to do is to hit the button that says "Install..." That will bring up a little dialogue box that has three line-items, Client, Service, Protocol. Highlight "Protocol" by left-clicking on it, and then left-click on "Add." That should bring up another window that lists the available protocols that you can install, among which should be a protocol named "Microsoft TCP/IP version 4." Highlight that protocol by left-clicking on it, and then click "Ok." The computer should then go through the process of installing TCP/IPv4 - which is what you need to communicate on the internet. Note, TCP/IPv4 should already be installed, but you never know with MS, so it's best to make sure; remember, if TCP/IPv4 was already showing up in the set of ticked boxes mentioned above, you do not need to install it a second time.

    Second, now that we're sure you have TCP/IPv4 cooking, the next thing is to look in the set of ticked boxes for the TCP/IPv6 item. The tick-box should have a little tick-mark in it, like so:
    View attachment 19132
    left-click on the box and the tick-mark should disappear. That should be it; by unticking the box, TCP/IPv6 should now be disabled on your wireless interface. At this point, restart the computer, and see if that changes anything for you.
     
  24. Softix

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    thanks mate....appreciate that ... i try my best to setting my router and make sure internet connection reach outside my room.
     
  25. Wirelessman

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    But don't expect miracles, WiFi doesn't has a long range, the new WiMAX will.