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    Wired with Wireless router

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by umbalito, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. umbalito

    umbalito Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,

    I had purchased a wireless router, hooked up with my main desktop and access the internet through wireless on my Asus G1S laptop.

    I set it up to be WPA2? secured, with a passkey and everything.

    My son has his own desktop on his room which was just for games, then he bought a network wire and hooked it up to my wireless router and hooked it to his PC. And now he's playing LAN games on his PC and with my other son on the main desktop.

    I was not aware this was even possible, that he would be able to use the router without knowing the passkey and settings and everything.

    Question, is he able to access the net like this? Even if he does not know the passkey? We would prefer to have no net access on his PC.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Wingsbr

    Wingsbr NBR Decepticon NBR Reviewer

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    The WPA passkey is only for wireless access security. This is so that anyone accessing the wireless network is not doing so unless permitted,, like say someone across the street since the signal is being broadcasted. If your son has a network cable that is from the computer to the router (Hardwired) then he can access the internet. The router is a gateway between the internet and your network... Internet > Router > Wireless (requires passkey) or Wired (does not require passkey) > signal served to the computers that are connected to the router.

    Now some routers have administration tools that you can use to only allow certain computers or certain times that allowed computers can be on the internet. What kind of router do you have?
     
  3. msiner

    msiner Notebook Consultant

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    WPA2 is only used for wireless encryption. It is used because your signal flies through the air where anybody can listen. It is not needed for wired connections because the wire is a point-to-point link that requires physical access to listen( wireless:hacker sits in a car out on the street, wired: hacker installs hardware in your house ). The router will act like a switch and allow things like LAN play, but if a modem is connected to that switch, then he probably can reach the internet. Your router should be able to be configured to isolate machines on the network. Check your manual on how this can be done via a webpage interface.

    EDIT: Looks like Wingsbr beat me to the punch.
     
  4. Wingsbr

    Wingsbr NBR Decepticon NBR Reviewer

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    These are the steps for a Linksys router. The steps are about the same for any router, this is just an overview based on Linksys documentation. Post if you have any questions.


    The Access Restrictions Tab - Internet Access

    The Internet Access screen allows you to block or allow specific kinds
    of Internet usage and traffic, such as Internet access, designated
    services, websites, and inbound traffic during specific days and times.

    Internet Access Policy. Access can be managed by a policy. Use the
    settings on this screen to establish an access policy (after the Save
    Settings button is clicked). Selecting a policy from the drop-down menu
    will display that policy¹s settings. To delete a policy, select that
    policy¹s number and click the Delete button. To view all the policies,
    click the Summary button. (Policies can be deleted from the Summary
    screen by selecting the policy or policies and clicking the Delete
    button. To return to the Internet Access tab, click the Close button.)

    Status. Policies are disabled by default. To enable a policy, select
    the policy number from the drop-down menu, and click the radio button
    beside Enable.

    You can create two kinds of policies, one kind to manage Internet
    access and another kind to manage inbound traffic.

    To create an Internet Access policy:

    1. Select a number from the Internet Access Policy drop-down menu.

    2. To enable this policy, click the radio button beside Enable.

    3. Enter a Policy Name in the field provided.

    4. Select Internet Access as the Policy Type.

    5. Click the Edit List button to select which PCs will be affected by
    the policy. The List of PCs screen will appear.

    You can select a PC by MAC Address or IP Address. You can also enter a
    range of IP Addresses if you want this policy to affect a group of PCs.
    After making your changes, click the Save Settings button to apply your
    changes or Cancel Changes to cancel your changes. Then click the Close
    button.

    6. Click the appropriate option, Deny or Allow, depending on whether
    you want to block or allow Internet access for the PCs you listed on
    the List of PCs screen.

    7. Decide which days and what times you want this policy to be
    enforced. Select the individual days during which the policy will be in
    effect, or select Everyday. Then enter a range of hours and minutes
    during which the policy will be in effect, or select 24 Hours.
     
  5. umbalito

    umbalito Notebook Enthusiast

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    Awesome! Thanks for the replies, much appreciated!

    I have a DLink WBR-2310 router. It's a basic wireless G router with rangebooster.

    I'm looking at the browser based config setup - and it looks like the only thing I have is this: I'm copying this off the Support Page:

    It seems I can either block off access to the network entirely but not the internet only.

    I tried entering in my main PC and my laptop and saying turn MAC address filtering ON and only allow the below PC's to access the network. But after I hit save settings - I could not access the web from my main PC...? Any idea why? I had to reset my router and set it up again.

    I do have a "website filter" settings - but it seems I can only block access to certain websites - and not the full web. I would really like to let them play games over the LAN - but no net access to his room - just to the main PC and my laptop.

    Thanks again!
     
  6. Wingsbr

    Wingsbr NBR Decepticon NBR Reviewer

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    I checked their website and read the same information. I think that maybe you had the config backwards from the setup you mentioned here
    Based on what I am reading you can allow them LAN access but not have internet access. Try getting their MAC addresses and then denying them the access while leaving yours alone.
    Post you results and we'll keep working until we get it right.