Where is the push for wired ethernet?

What has happened to this luxury of old? You know, FAST transfer speeds, little to no latency, etc?

Have people forgotten that a simple 100 mbit wired lan connection pushes almost twice as much data than a "108mbit" wireless connection when properly setup? Then lets not forgot that 1000mbit lan is out these days in almost all devices with a wired lan port.

This seems to be something many places are rolling over these days, and it makes me wonder how many newb's are out their thinking the 3.5MB/s transfer speeds from a Super-G wireless connection is fast, when 100 with decent cables pushes 9-10MB/s. Add into the equation that gigabit lan pushes over 40MB/s when setup halfway decent, and you start getting as fast or faster than what most harddrives work at on average.

If you guys with your new laptops haven't tried out this secret art of wired lan success, I suggest you give it a try sometime when you are around the house . If you are transfering stuff like ISO's and whatnot around, instead of waiting 20-25 minutes, for 4.5gb, it takes only 3-4

I must say I am probably biased. The only times wireless becomes a factor for me is when I am on my bed or on the can. My entire home is wired in every major room for ethernet, so I try to use it whever I can.

 

Thats why Wireless-N will be available

Oh, and Wireless G even can handle large download files....And then they even have MIMO, that will speed this up.

Have you tried transfering files more than once? Because you said you only use wireless when you need to....

 

Most of the discussions around here seem to be for private use, and mostly to access the internet, and not other devices on the LAN. Unless you're transfering huge files around your house fairly often (like ISOs of DVDs), or have more than a few PCs on the LAN doing this simultaneously, there's not much need for anything faster in the home, hence, no 'push'. I probably have a network larger than most, with a Win2k3 server (w/ SQL and Exchange), a MCE PC, a desktop, 3 laptops, an Xbox, and a PVR all on my home network, and have no issues with using my plain old WRT54G to connect most of it wirelessly.

However, I do like the reliability of a wired connection, and will continue to use it whenever it's at least as convienient as using wireless.

 

When transferring large files, I do it by means of wired network. The entire top floor in my house is wired, with three static desktop PCs connected to the router, and the culprint being the wireless access point with an integrated switch, that I can use to connect any of my laptops using Ethernet, when needed.

However, most of the time I'm just surfing the web, no problem with wireless there.

 

router in the basement, computers mostly used on the second floor, and didn't want to run cables through the heat ducts or hallways, so my internet connections are wireless. I have a crossover cable for transferring files between my desktop and laptop, at it's fastest it is almost as fast as transferring between the IDE drives in my desktop. sometimes the cable is slow though, no idea why.

 

I have tried my hand at quite a few MIMO and Super G routers. Even when the connection states 108mbps, the actual transfer pegs out around 3.5MB/s.

802.11N is supposed to get around 600mbit, but with the current trend of wireless stuff, I don't think it will push around more data than a 100mbit wired connection.

Right now my home network goes like this. cable modem > ubuntu server/router > netgear gs108 gigabit switch > wireless router and computers in parallel.

I got into the quest for the best wireless transfer speeds for my work computer in my garage, but currently the fastest stuff doens't even go over 4.0MB/s. Would enjoy getting wired out their, but its only path is alongside a 240v conduit, and a 70 foot span would render connection close to impossible from the interference.

 

How are you liking the Netgear GS108? I'm looking for an unmanaged 8-16 port Gigabit switch myself ...

 

I love it. I personally have not setup jumbo packets because of compatibility reasons, but so far it is great. I have the thing screwed up to the side of a small cabinet that my server/router is kept in. Only mildly warm to the touch, but **** does it feel impresive. Has some nice weight to it being an all steel case.

The only gigabit issues I am running into is some card or wiring related problems at the moment. From a certain computer to another, the connection will be all over the place. Bounce from like 200 KB/s to 30 MB/s up and down, up and down. From that same computer to other computers on the network it is a steady 25-30MB/s. I have swapped around cables, everything and it still does it. I have pretty much ruled out the switch as a possible cause, so it looks like the Intel 1000/ct in my main computer (onboard lan) blows fanny (lol fanny) chunks all over the place.

One of these nights I am going to open that sucker up and check for hotspots, and apply heatsinks if needed. Best 65 bucks I have spent in a long time.

 

Very true, very true, but who wants to be wired down to a table?

Whole point of wireless is so that you can take your baby anywhere. In your livingroom on the couch, kitchen, outside patio, almost anywhere where there is wireless. Especially coffee shops.

Plus 108mbps connections have pretty good speeds. Of course for large file transfers you are going to use your wired connection, but wait until N.

Cheers,
Mike

 

In case you didn't know:

Wireless B: Usually about 4Mbps
Wireless G: Usually 24Mbps
Super G: Usually about 54Mbps if its regularly 108Mbps

There is nothing wrong using a wired network, but it is faster than what your claiming

 

first time I went over to a guy at school's apartment with friends, asked if he had wireless. He went back in his server room and came out with 3 ~60 foot ethernet cables. long enough to reach anywhere in his apartment I guess.

 

Well, our measurements are also kinda different. I was stating transfer speeds in megabytes, you are megabits. 8 bits per a byte

Real world transfers over wireless never get close to peak because of interference and overhead.

 

I totally agree with dietcokefiend. Wired etherent is versatile and reliable. Wireless can be fast, but I just think that it is not reliable enought and something could easily go wrong. However, there isn't a push for ethernet as a lot of etherent cabaling through an entire house can be very expensive, and to have the "true" mobility feel you really need wireless internet. I also think buying a good router means paying your ISP a lot less for the actual internet speed that you are getting.

 

Think about a network in your own house. You have a 2 story house. 2 desktops and a laptop. What if you wanted to transfer a file? Run a ethernet cable from the downstairs pc to the upstairs? This is were wireless comes in handy.

When using wireless, its more easier in my opinion. So what you have to wait a minute or 2 more, the file gets there at least.

 

Workstations: Wired
Portables: Wireless


Best of both world. It was a pita for me to fish CAT5E all over my place, but it is worth it. I never understand why people have wireless on their DESKTOPS.

With a laptop though, all I do on it is browse the net, 802.11g is way more than enough for that.

 

When I moved back home middle way through college, I wired all the main rooms in my parents house with Cat5e. 2 stories, lots of insane routing through the walls, but in the end I am so glad I did it like that.

Wireless is nice for internet browsing and stuff on your bed at night, but it is somewhat of a joke for stationary use, and even moreso these days as so many people are crowding the 2.4ghz spectrum.

 

in my apartment at school we ran wires through heat ducts and along baseboards. we did my GF's apartment by tossing the cable out one window and in another. Neither of those was gonna fly here, so we have wireless.