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    Vista can see but not access XP on network

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Dazman, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Dazman

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    Okay, I bought a laptop with Vista Home Premium and I've set everything up to work on a network.

    My desktop computer runs XP and is connected (hard wired) to the internet through my D-Link 655 router. The laptop can see the desktop computer, but can't access it.

    Both have different computer names;

    Both have the same workgroup name;

    I can see the desktop and can ping both computers; and

    Both firewalls are off.

    Have the Hotfix for XP to address this problem.

    Any ideas??
     
  2. kuncheesh

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    heres what u need to do (i assume u use wifi in laptop to connect to the router and then the network cable to connect to the desktop)

    in ur laptop got to: control panel > network and sharing center > manage network connections (on left pane) > double click on 'wireless network connection' > properties > double click 'internet protocol version 4 (TCP?IP v4)' > under use the following DNS server address for prefferd server type the address of your router (192.168.1.1 by default).

    if that doesnt work assign ips for the desktop (ethernet connection) and laptop (wireless connection) manually with the same penultimate digit
    (eg: 1 in 192.168.1.35)
     
  3. Dazman

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    Thanks for the response.

    I tried it and it didn't work. I'll look at assigning the IP addresses next.
     
  4. Dazman

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    I have Xp talking to the vista computer but Vistadoesn't have access.
     
  5. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Couple questions!

    1. How are you talking/accessing the other computer?

    2. What error do you get when you try to access the other computer?

    3. What antivirus/firewall program are you running besides Windows Firewall on the XP machine?
     
  6. Dazman

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    I'm trying to access the xp computer via my wireless router.

    When I double click the computer icon of the xp computer it says "Windows cannot access// xxxxxxx (computers name goes here).

    All firewalls on the Xp machine are off, both the windows FW and ZoneAlarm
     
  7. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Hehe...I already know what the issue is...I bet you $5,000 if you uninstall ZoneAlarm it will work!
     
  8. Dazman

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    I disabled it using MSCONFIG and it didn't load up.

    Still think that's the problem.
     
  9. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Yes...you have to uninstall it! The registry keys are still in the registry of the computer even if it's disabled.
     
  10. Dazman

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    I'll try it.
     
  11. Dazman

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    didn't work
     
  12. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Okay...take a look at my screenshot and ensure file and printer sharing is on on the NIC. Even though you have Windows Firewall off, still ensure that file and printer sharing exception is checked.
     

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    Yes they were already checked.
     
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    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Can you ping the XP machine from the .Vista laptop at this point?
     
  15. Dazman

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    yes, no problem at all.
     
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    Try sharing a folder on the XP system.. see if you can access the shared folder in Vista
     
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    I have shared folders on Xp and no joy. Simple sharing is setup.

    This is killing me.
     
  18. flipfire

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    Try to do remote desktop from Vista to XP

    I have the same scenario as you, but mine works fine...
     
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    Check the firewalls (ANY POSSIBLE RUNNING) on both computers, and disable them temporarily to check that they aren't refusing you access. Oh, and file sharing needs to be on with both computers as well. For a quick test, you can always hit Win+R and then type the name of the other computer such as \\example-computer.

    :rolleyes: :D
     
  20. Dazman

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    I have home premium so I don't think it's possible.
     
  21. Dazman

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    I've done that as well.
     
  22. makaveli72

    makaveli72 Eat.My.Shorts

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    Hmmm...Interesting...you can ping it but can't connect to it..this means most likely that it's not a firewall issue and nothing is blocking the connection (but something is preventing you). :confused: I could understand why it's killing you my friend..I don't comprehend that one. Have you restarted both machines since?

    Edit: Just to be clear here...you pinged the XP machine from the .Vista machine and got "Reply from ipaddress....."etc.?
     
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    hmm... ok let us make sure that your router address is 192.168.1.1 take any browser and type http://192.168.1.1 does this show any prompt to enter a username or password or lead you into a control panel for your router ??
     
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    The login screen pops up but I don't have to enter a password. I just hit login button.

    I can ping both computers.
     
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    Yes both have been restarted and I ping both fron xp to vista and vice versa.
     
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    A Firewall will block the connection between computer at the same time allow pings. So my suggestion if your running a 3rd party FW, un-install it. Norton has a history of messing things up if your using it, definately un-install it. Disabling FW do not work correctly on a lot of FW's, they must be uninstalled. Then once working you can put them back.
     
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    I uninstalled ZoneAlarm and still no joy.

    Now I'm running Norton 2008 with no firewall on XP. I can see the XP computer from the Vista laptop but access is denied.

    Still think Norton is a problem?

    I have AVG on the laptop an XP can access my Vista laptop.
     
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    Uninstalled Norton and it didn't work.
     
  29. makaveli72

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    Same thing I was explaining to the OP before blue...I don't get this situation. I think we've covered all the protocols here.

    Edit: Okay, I just noticed this post by flip.
    You can use .Vista Premium to connect to Remote Computers...just not the other way around! So that should work; just allow Remote Desktop on the XP machine via the System Properties, under the Remote tab.

    And I myself tried accessing other computers on my home network tonight and I am now too having access issues to them. :) Very interesting I must say. What an exciting field of technology i'm in to! So i've gotta try and solve my own issues here as well.
     
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    Yes I got remote desktop to work!
     
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    I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I had to go into:

    Administrative tools> Security Settings>Local Policies>Security Options. on right and window select "Network Access:Sharing and security model for local accounts" and select "Classic - local users authenticate as themselves."

    Next was because my Windows XP logons automatically without a password, which also affects remote desktop.

    To correct this I did the following:

    You can disable blank password restrictions by using a policy. To locate and change this policy:
    1. Click Start, point to Run, type gpedit.msc, and then click OK to start the Group Policy Editor.
    2. Open Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options\Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console logon only.
    3. Double-click Limit local account use of blank passwords to consol logon only.
    4. Click Disabled, and then click OK.
    5. Quit Group Policy Editor.

    I'm happy :)

    Thanks for help.
     
  32. makaveli72

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    Awesome...that's gr8!...happy it's finally solved...my issue got fixed as well...but was a different procedure. I had to install the "NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatable Transport Protocol" in the network card properties.

    I had recently taken it off, thinking I didn't need it!
     
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    Thanks again for all your help.

    The remote desktop led my down the path of solving this problem.