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    USB Ethernet question

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by bunta, Jan 5, 2007.

  1. bunta

    bunta Notebook Consultant

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    I have an Asus laptop and i am planning on purchasing a dock replicator w/ LAN (ethernet port)..

    Im just wondering if the speed of the internet would decrease if i plugged the ethernet cable into the dock(which is connected to laptop via usb) would decrease my internet speed...
     
  2. qhn

    qhn Notebook User

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    let's see:
    . USB 2.0 = up to 480mbps
    . laptop lan port = 10, 100 (and 1000 depending on the model)

    so if ur asus only has 10/100 then i would say no, have not seen any 1000 myself with external dock so it is hard to say

    but those r just internal data transfer. ur internet speed (ISP to u) depends on lots of other factors (site constraints, traffic volume, etc ...)

    cheers ...
     
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    Your ISP connection speed is generally in the 5mbps range, so USB2.0 or lan will work. But remember those are theorical speeds. A 100BaseT connection - over head is around 85mbps or can move around 10.5MB/s over ftp. USB2.0 is in the 350mbps if no other devices are using the same controller. That how come 1394 Fire400 still beats usb 2.0.
     
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    bunta Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for your reply...

    But lets just for now leave the internet speed (from the ISP) aspect out of this and compare - two different connections USB vs Ethernet regarding the data transfer speed/rate aspect of it.

    I know the best option would be to just plug the RJ-45 cable straight into the ethernet port on the laptop but would my transfer rate decrease by MAYBE a tad bit if i were to use a docking station with an ethernet/lan port that is connected to the laptop via USB..
     
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    Have anyone tried the speed comparison before...?
     
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    well, i just did a test with my x1000
    . cable direct and cable via HP dock = no difference
    . cable direct and cable via an external usb2.0 dock (belkin) - definitively a lag and up&down

    but then the usb 2.0 hub only claimed to offer the possibility of port expansion, not necessarily garanteeing the performance one/one as coming out direct from laptop

    cheers ...
     
  7. bunta

    bunta Notebook Consultant

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    That was what i was afraid off --purchasing a USB hub w/ LAN only to have slower internet performance.. I am not too worried about the usb 2.0 speed for my peripherals. Im just worried about the ethernet speed going through the usb hub...

    Any other input from others???
     
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    All im wondering is if i should just plug in the Rj-45 straight into the laptop or into the USB HUB w/ LAN port. If the speed decrease (if any) should take place, i am sure its minimal.....BUT will it be significant?? If for every page i open on the internet takes 4 secs more than i would have, then that would be a problem.
     
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    Doing so will work, make sure your FW is active. USB speed in most case have a speed that is faster than most ISP. Even the old 10baseT is faster than most. What will change is lag, it will apear faster, because it is more responsive.
     
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    THank you for the reply...

    Im not quite sure what you're saying..... :confused:

    Will my "page/pages" load faster or slower using the ethernet port on the USB hub??
     
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    Pages will load at the same speed, but the reaction time (lag) will be lower. So it will have the feel of loading faster. Bypassing a router removes a hardware firewall, so make sure you have a software one running.
     
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    :confused: But im not bypassing any routers..the rj-45 cable is still coming out of the router. It just goes into a dock/port replicator usb hub instead of the laptop... Does using the USB removes the firewall??

    This is what i will be using http://www.usbgear.com/USB_docking_station_with_LAN/index.html
     
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    NO, as long as you go through the router you have a HW firewall. The replicator will induce lag.