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    Powerfull signal router with builtin modem

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by gpister, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. gpister

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    I am looking for a very powerful router with a built in modem. I want something where the signal can get pretty far and price at the moment doesn't matter. For example I have the:

    Amazon.com: Netgear WGR614 Wireless-G Router: Electronics
    with the speedstream modem

    so for example is this one more powerful in signal?
    Amazon.com: NETGEAR DGND3300 RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Router with Built-in DSL Modem: Electronics

    How exactly do I know which one has more powerful signal? I really appreciate it thanks :)
     
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    There's not going to be any significant difference since the transmit power is all the same 22-25mW.
    Some are better designed, some are worse but if you really want something with a good range you should consider something with external removable antennas (doesn’t increase transmit power but can increase range if you replace an antenna with a directional one or one with a bigger dB gain).

    Second option is actually the opposite of what you're asking but it's worth mentioning anyway. Routers are tested more thoroughly than combo devices so it's hard to tell which combo has better range- it's not that hard with stand-alone routers. There are also routers available that are supported by 3rd party firmware like DD-WRT that allows you to increase the transmit power.
    You can still use those for DSL with an addition of a stand-alone DSL modem.
     
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    Thanks for the fast response so there isn't really anything in the market to buy that will increase the routers range? I know there is antennas, I didn't want to go there. I heard somewhat of what you mentioned 3rd party firmware. I was just looking for an easy router with built in modem with just a farther range. So what exactly can you recommend for this?
     
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    The thing is 3rd party firmware doesn't work on routers with integrated ADSL modems because of the drivers for ADSL are available only as binary files.
    So if you want to use 3rd party firmware you need to buy a separate router that is supported by DD-WRT or Tomato.
    You may either choose an ADSL modem and a separate router (known for its good range) or buy whatever you want and set up a repeater somewhere in the middle- that has a few drawbacks though.

    Buffalo router with HP (High Power) in its name coupled with an ADSL modem of your choosing should do the job nicely.
    Head over to smallnetbuilder and compare router's range- they have a good test for it.
     
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    Ahh I see somethings seem complicated with the tomato (I am not up to date much on networks). I want longer range router (might as well) with a built in modem to do a good upgrade. My cousin lives near and I want him to get some signal. He comes and goes since he works for the government. My neighbor can get however not my cousin (unless he got very near the backyard which he wouldn't really enjoy it well). I know if I got something more powerful he would be able to get it on the living room. Thats why I just need a little more power for him to get enough signal. I will check that out and once again thanks for the response.

    Edit I saw this one on the website and it seems its pretty good what do you think of the range compared to the netgear I have? It doesn't seem to have a built in modem :( but would that be enough on range. Also if a builtin modem with router limits me I rather just get the router itself.

    http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-Wirel...RJY4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297105868&sr=8-1
     
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    Netgear WNDR3700 has pretty good range however the newer version WNDR3700 v2 seems to get better speeds far away from the router (which doesn't necessarily mean better range but is important nonetheless).
    If you're about to buy a WNDR3700 make sure it's v2.

    It may be easier and cheaper to buy something like TP-Link TL-WR1043ND replace one of the antennas with a directional one and just aim it at your cousin's place.

    Wither way he may be forced to buy a high powered Wi-Fi adapter- just because he could be reached by router's signal doesn't mean the router could be reached by his signal.
     
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    Neither of those- WNDR3700v2 will be sold as WNDR3700.
    The old ones are still available but not manufactured anymore- when they go out of stock the new ones (v2s) will replace them.
    At this point it's not easy to find out if it's the old one or the new one- it has to be explicitly mentioned by the seller.

    BTW- it's still just the router- you need a modem too.
     
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    Ahh alright also I have the speedstream 3500 (att) is it recommended to upgrade that to or would that be fine to?
     
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    If it works now- it's going to be fine- no need to upgrade the modem.
     
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    I will probably get that one from Amazon. Netgear has some very good ones but they arent out in the market yet.

    WNDR3800

    DGND3700 (I like that one because its a built in modem)

    I will see then if i get the 3700 or just wait thanks for the help I really appreciate it!
     
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    There are wifi routers specifically designed and sold for long-range applications.

    Think of places like RV parks, etc.

    Bing search is your friend.

    But rejecting proper antennas and expecting that what most people think of as the 'stock' rubber ducky do all the work is quite deliberately crippling a potential answer to your question.