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    Possible to get >130mbps on Intel 4965 AGN?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by psychopomp1, Jan 10, 2009.

  1. psychopomp1

    psychopomp1 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello Folks

    My sony notebook FZ31S has the Intel 4965 AGN wireless N network card installed. My notebook can connect to my ADSL router (D-Link DSL 2740B) at only 130 mbps, not at 270mbps. My desktop upstairs has an Edimax Wireless N PCI card, and that connects to the dlink at 270mbps, no probs. On the router i am using "wireless N only" broadcast and am using WPA2-AES encryption. I also have the latest driver installed for the 4965AGN card (12.2). So why can't the Intel 4965AGN connect at speeds greater than 130mbps?

    Edit: I should also mention that on the sony's wireless utility, i have the option of using 5ghz or 2.4 ghz. If i select 5ghz option only then my notebook can't connect....it only connects if the 2.4 ghz is selected (with or without 5 ghz)

    Thanks :)
     
  2. Kurat

    Kurat Notebook Consultant

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    goto Wireless Network Connection icon in network connections, click the bottom Properties button, then under where it says Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN, click the configure button and have a look at what the settings are in there, sometimes these network utilites from the hardware makers have different settings by default.
     
  3. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    According to D-Link, you can only achieve 130+ Mbps if your Intel card supports 40MHz channel width. (I have slightly different router, DIR-655 but concept should be the same)

    http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=616.0
     
  4. psychopomp1

    psychopomp1 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for your replies. Well according to Intel the 4965AGN does support 40 Mhz channel width, but only in the 5Ghz spectrum. On my notebook, i cannot select the 5 ghz option on its own...it can only be selected with the 2.4 Ghz option. However could the problem be that the network card in my notebook only has 2 antennas whereas some versions of the card have 3 antennas which allows speeds of up to 300 Mbps?

    Thanks :)
     
  5. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Doubt it's the amount of antennae. It's probably the fact that you're using mixed mode instead of just 5GHz.
     
  6. Slaughterhouse

    Slaughterhouse Knock 'em out!

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    I had this problem as well. I changed my router setting to 5Ghz and I also changed the channel width from the default 20Mhz to Auto 20/40Mhz. Now I get the full 300 mbps.
     
  7. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    The i4965 will only do 300Mbps in 5Ghz.
    They not made it 11n for 2.4Ghz siting congestion with 40Mhz channel width (a load of hog wash I saY :) )
     
  8. psychopomp1

    psychopomp1 Notebook Consultant

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    yes it appears that my router has to support 5ghz to get 300mbps speeds on the Intel (the Dlink 2740B has only 2.4 ghz). But can i ask why my Edimax PCI card is able to give 270mbps speeds in the 2.4Ghz frequency (using 40 Mhz bands) yet they restricted the intel card to 5ghz for 300mbps?

    Would i need to buy something like this when its released?
    http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=7575

    Thanks :)
     
  9. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    Make sure the router you get can do both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz at once.
    Some routers can only either not both at once (you'll regret this)

    The Netgear one doesn't say simultaneous so best do some more homework.
     
  10. hovercraftdriver

    hovercraftdriver Notebook Deity

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    Like wlan_man said, this doesn't look like it is dual/simultaneous mode. The only two that I know of that are is the Linksys wrt610n and the D-link dir-855. And the 855 is extremely hard to get hold of...I just ordered one from the same place you linked to, because they are only one of a few that stocked it, and the price is about 100.00 less.

    I'm not interested in full 300mbps, but I want the simultaneous dual mode for all the pcs and game consoles in my house. The Linksys is cheaper and I could get it at BestBuy, but I have heard and read as much negative as positive about it.
     
  11. psychopomp1

    psychopomp1 Notebook Consultant

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    According to Netgear these are the specs of the DGND3300:
    Wireless Configuration
    * Type 1: Full 2.4 GHZ configuration supporting 802.11n/802.11g/ 802.11b
    * Type 2: Duo 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz configuration supporting 802.11n/802.11a (5 GHz) and 802.11g/ 802.11b (2.4 GHz)

    Surely Type 2 means that its simultaneous 2.4 and 5 ghz?

    Thanks :)
     
  12. Freakish123

    Freakish123 Notebook Consultant

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    I Believe so, for some reason i have the Intel 5100 and WRT610n and i too can only connect at 135Mbps, It does connect for about 3 seconds @ 270Mbps, and then drops to 135Mbps forever more, I have given up personally on getting 270. I believe it's likely the Intel cards and possibly their antenna config.

    I believe the 5300 will actually get 270Mbps.
     
  13. psychopomp1

    psychopomp1 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for that. Rather than buying a dual band router, it might be an idea to replace the Intel 4965AGN with the 5300.... however do you think the 5300 gives speeds >130mbps in the 2.4 Ghz range? If i bought the 5300, would i need the full size card or the half size card and how easy is it to replace in my laptop? (Sony Vaio FZ31S)
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149424

    Thanks
     
  14. gunnar123

    gunnar123 Newbie

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    I have a 5300 (full size) installed in a Eee PC 900A mini laptop.
    That isn't exactly the best performance bench for finding the limits of the 5300 but the purpose was enhancing the 900A which it did.

    In addition to the existing two antennas that was used with its original "Azurewave" card I added a third small centre antenna I picked up off Ebay. I have no idea how critical antenna routing is inside the laptop.

    Anyway it works in an excellent way with the Intel PROSet connectivity tools
    and I can move back and forth easily between being connected to the
    5 GHz or 2.4 GHz router bands of my DIR-855.

    I have it connected to 100 Mbit/s WAN that offer appr 98 Mbit/s effective capacity on the switch ports. I can accomplish at least over 50 Mbit/s wireless throughput effective with the 5300. I do see it establish a 270 Mbit/s link so that works. Indeed this card is one cool deal om Ebay where they are sold on the cheap by HongKong sellers.
     
  15. Tybalt39

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    There was a thread in the Gateway forum indicating that Intel does indeed limit your bandwidth unless you are using 40Mhz (N only) in the 5Ghz range and using the higher modes of security.

    My 4965AGN connects at 270Mb/sec on the Linksys WRT610N (5Ghz band/N only/40Mhz) while still allowing older computers on my network to operate in the 2.4Ghz range.