Need some help setting up wifi...

I am sure this will get moved, but I will start the thread here. I have set up wifi and lan networks many times but this one has me baffled. They installed DSL at my work and it is connected to a Waypoint Router. They have assigned us a port for us to use and said we could connect as many PC's to it as we wanted via a hub or wifi router. The port has a static IP address (192.168.1.2) and of course a gateway address (99.23.18.74). I can get the wifi installed and working fine, but can't figure out the internet connection. If I setup my laptop with the LAN connection set to the static 192.168.1.2 and the gateway of 99.23.18.74, I get internet fine. It is my understanding that if I cable from the router to the WIFI modem, it would connect into on of the 4 lan ports, not the Wan port, correct? I have tried it in both connections, but still cannot get internet over the Wifi. Any ideas on what I might be missing?

~Paul

 

192.168.1.1 SHOULD be your router's IP address. If you use 192.168.1.2 (which is the next IP) then you would set your gateway to 192.168.1.1 (The gateway IP address is the IP address of your router) and your DNS is what reolves the names to get you the internet. (Which your router has programmed in as well (either statically or dynamically) (but probably dynamically)).

I'm gonna go on a limb here (not even understanding 50% of your post), mostly because it's hard for you to explain because you don't entirly understand it. Anyways on a limb I would say that if you hook up another router (Linksys for example) and that router has the same IP as the Waypoint router then you won't get anything... at that point you would need to change the IP address of your second router to something like 192.168.1.2 and then start your DHCP pool at 192.168.1.3.

You should have DHCP enabled on that waypoint router, if not then you will never get and IP address on any client machine (your laptop in this example), as your waypoint router should be shelling out IP's (probably starting at 192.168.1.2)

Default IP on a Linksys router = 192.168.1.1
Default IP on a Netgear router = 192.168.0.1
Default username on Linksys router = ~BLANK~
Default password on Linksys router = password
Default username on Netgear router = admin
Default password on Netgear router = password, 1234 or blank

Hope this helps

 

ALSO on that note... with this setup, you are basically setting up your WIFI ROUTER as a switch... at which point you would have to log into it BEFORE you cable it up to the waypoint router and DISABLE DHCP, otherwise you will have two DHCP servers on the network trying to shell out IP's, which, WON'T WORK.

While using your WIFI router as a switch will work (in theory)... it's much easier to just get an access point (which just has one port on it) and goes into any port on the switch to give your network wireless.

Access points tend to cost more (up to $80 for a good Linksys one), but I find that they work better and are more stable in the long run... especially if you have a big office and plan on exanding... you can simply add another access point down the road to expand coverage.

 

You are right. My post was kind of confusing. I was very tired.

Maybe this will help explain the current setup:

DSL Line ---->Wayport Router----->static IP for our internal internet needs.

What I would like to do is take that static IP (192.168.1.2 with a gateway of 99.23.18.74), and connect it to a wifi router for us to use. What is the correct procedure for doing this? And what should the setup of the WIFI Router look like (both physical cabling and config settings)?

Hope this helps explain my confusion and dilemma.

 

Paul, you're killing me! lol. Your IP (192.168.1.2) is an internal class C PRIVATE IP address... You say that when you set your IP on you laptop to 192.168.1.2 and the appropriate gateway then you get online fine right?

So try doing that on your laptop and then ping 192.168.1.1 --> do you get a response?

Also try pinging 192.168.1.100, 192.168.1.253, & 192.168.1.254 --> do you get responses?

If you do then you can be assured that your IP of your router IS NOT 192.168.1.2.

Also by nature you CANNOT have the router be 192.168.1.2 AND have the laptop (for testing purposes) also be 192.168.1.2 as you will get an IP conflict.

If this is unclear let me know. Maybe we can talk on the phone as it might be easier to explain on the phone.

 

No, you are killing me! hahahaha

The DSL line from the wall goes to this new Wayport router. The Wayport is used for DSL connection for Credit Card transactions and the ISP communication with their server (a closed network). They have set aside one port on that router that they have identified that we can use to hook up as many of our PC's that we would like to use that DSL for internet purposes. Right now, we have only 3 machines that would use it; our security camera PC that can connect via internet to allow us to watch the cameras from anywhere, our training computer which will allow it to receive periodic training material updates (it's an E*Learning computer) and my laptop so I can be lazy and sit in the lobby to do my work instead of camping in the cramped office that we have. They have a sticker on "Our" port that says 192.168.1.2 and 99.23.18.74. If I connect a CAT5 cable to that port, and set my laptop to those settings, I can get on the internet... Good to go. However, If I take a CAT5 cable from that port to the Actiontec (WIFI modem), and connect my laptop via WIFI, I cannot access the internet. What I am confused about is this. The Actiontec I have has 5 ports. 1 is used for the incoming DSL connection, and the other 4 are for stand alone machines to be cable-direct. Does the CAT5 cable from the Wayport go to the incoming DSL port, or to one of the 4 stand alone ports? I ask because I tried it both ways and still cannot get internet on my laptop over the WIFI connection. The more I read on this I am thinking that I need to connect the Wayport to one of the 4 stand alone ports on the Actiontec after I disable the DHCP, making it a Switch I believe. If that is correct, are they any other settings on the Actiontec that need to be changed or is it that simple...
1.Setup WIFI
2.Disable DHCP
3.Connect Wayport to one of 4 stand alone ports
4.fire up laptop and connect to WIFI
5.Surf the internet...

Or would I be better served getting an access point router and just hooking that up to the port on the Wayport identified for us (the 192.168.1.2).

AND YES, I know that the addresses I gave you were for a C Private IP. And no, if I have the laptop connected, I cannot ping any 192 addresses because my laptop would be the only device on that C Private IP scheme. If, however, I have the Actiontec connected to the Wayport, and I have my laptop connected to the Actiontec using CAT5 or Wifi, I can ping the 192 addresses, I just cant use the internet. Im thinking its because I need the gateway set to the 99.23 number to match the Wayport setting. Is this correct?

 

You keep saying "WIFI modem"... it isn't a wifi modem, it would be a router. Your terminology is confusing the heck out of me here... you would use a "WIFI Router" (in this case an actiontec) and you can disable DHCP and plug from that 192.168.1.2 port into ANY of the 4 ports on that actiontec router and use it as switch to simply take your connection and make it wireless. (You would disable DHCP on the actiontec)

What you could also do would be to set the IP address of the actiontec to 192.168.1.2 and the gateway address as 99.23.18.74 on that actiontec and also LEAVE DHCP ON. You would then set the DHCP range on the LAN side of the actiontec to 192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.253. that way you are re-distributing a different range of IP's that are SEPERATE from the wayport DSL router/modem.

"Im thinking its because I need the gateway set to the 99.23 number to match the Wayport setting. Is this correct?" - yes this is correct

*Rob bangs his head against the wall now * lol

 

LMAO! Now that makes a heck of alot more sense than what I said! Sometime I am the dumbest genius you will ever meet.

Thanks Rob, I will give it a go and let you know how it shakes out.

 

Good!! I feel like all my typing is paying off ... you can always try the hammer approach as well

 

Oooh, I just looove the hammer approach - seriously, if nothing else works, nothing gets out the frustration quite like a good hammer!

 

Brute force is only not working because you didn't apply enough.

 

Now THAT is a quote I will use!

 

Fraternal greetings to the People's Republic of Maryland from the Soviet Socialist Republic of New York!

Doobi's phrase was a good catch-phrase, wasn't it.

 

Yup! I'll use it!