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    Need removing one system from my network!

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Silas Awaketh, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. Silas Awaketh

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    Hello!

    I have a cousin who is currently staying at my place, and using my connection to browse the net. That's all good and dandy, but he starts downloading crap via the torrents, and hence I get very little speeds on my system. I've told him a few times to not do that, but he still does it all the time. Long story short, I want him bounced off my network, is there a way I could do this?

    I could change the security key, but then he'd find out and then ask me and I'd have to tell. Anything other than this?

    I'm using Beetle 450BXI ADSL2+ Router, and both our notebooks are connected to it via wireless, and DHCP is enabled, if it helps.


    EDIT: - That's "Need help removing one system from my network!"
     
  2. Tinselworm

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    you could block his Mac Address
     
  3. Silas Awaketh

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    How do I find his MAC address? He's currently connected to the router. And what error will it throw him?

    EDIT - Here it is, let me see what to do.

    EDIT 2 - "Net View" just finds my own notebook! :confused: :(
     
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    you need to be in a home network for that to work,try to get tohis pc whilst he is off it
     
  5. entropy.cz

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    can you look into the router settings? i don't know the one you're using, anyway usually there are lately seen MACs listed... with computer names, so that you can find his one pretty easily this way.

    or, you can simply disable dhcp, without telling him. you will set your TCP/IP accordingly and and he simply won't get an IP. - oh how ugly... :p :D
     
  6. Silas Awaketh

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    Here are the settings (?) available to me when I go to 192.168.1.1 -

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    He'd find out I think! :(
     
  7. entropy.cz

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    ...depends on how smart he is. ;)

    if you look in the statistics thing, can you see there anything like connected devices history? you could find his MAC address there.

    or... what's in the parental control part? can you block some torrent sites there or whatever? or, maybe even better - block torrent ports, as descirbed here: http://suyashjain.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-to-block-torrent-in-network.html
     
  8. Silas Awaketh

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    I can't block torrent websites or block the ports, then I won't be able to use them! The thing is, he uses it ALL the time, even when I have to do research or download something on my own from where-ever or simply browse the net! I'm really p'd off with this.

    P.S - There's nothing in the statistics thing, it's just bytes sent/received.

    I think I'll just block his MAC address.
     
  9. nizzy1115

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    Yup just block his mac address, better yet, only allow the devices you want on...that way he cant spoof is mac to a different one to gain access.
     
  10. entropy.cz

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    well... the thing is, if you block his MAC address, he won't connect at all. he will go and see that you're surfing and everything. he will find out really quickly that something happened.

    i'd rather go for some limitation than a pure cutoff. what's in that parental control settings part as i've asked before? can you edit stuff for a particular MAC? i mean... limiting the speed... or websites... (excluding torrent sites for example...) whatever.
     
  11. Silas Awaketh

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    I could do that!! I just put my MAC address here, and click the "Allow" radio-button?
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    What error will he get?

    I couldn't care less, he'd be banging his head on his own notebook, thinking all the settings are the same on both the notebooks, but why isn't his working? Then I'd suggest a full format and re-install of his OS, which he can't, since his drive doesn't work.

    The Parental Control isn't useful, it has -
     
  12. entropy.cz

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    hehe, anyway, can you imagine him being able to connect only from 12.30-12.35, 16.15-16.40 and 21.10-21.25? THAT would drive him nuts. ;)

    but ok. - regarding that MACs thing, maybe also put in his address and hit deny..?
     
  13. Silas Awaketh

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    He's in his room, and I don't know his system's MAC address.
     
  14. Silas Awaketh

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    I'm trying to put the "Physical Address" "00-1B-77-AD-0E-7C" (without the quotes) in there and it says the MAC address is invalid? :confused: This is the MAC address right?

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  15. Shyster1

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    You may have to enter the MAC address either as an unbroken string of characters (that is, without the "-"s), or with ":"s in place of the "-"s. The "physical address" is the MAC number, so you've got the right number, it's just a matter of getting the format right for entering it into the router.
     
  16. Silas Awaketh

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    I had tried without the "-"s, but it didn't worked. But it worked great with ":"s! Thank you all for helping, repping you all. But one more question - can I add my LAN card's MAC address too, along with the Wi-Fi card's that I've just added?

    EDIT - nizzy1115 - "You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later." Tomorrow then.
     
  17. Shyster1

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    I assume you're talking about the wired connection, correct? As far as I know, MAC address filtering doesn't apply to wired connections, at least not on the Netgear router I use - I tried it once and it didn't make a bit of difference.
     
  18. Silas Awaketh

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    Yeah I meant the wired connection. So he can still connect via a cable?! :(
     
  19. Shyster1

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    As far as I know, yes - perhaps the simple solution to that is to just stick a bunch of ethernet cables into the back of the router, attach them to things that look tech-y, and tell him that, so sorry, but all of the wired ports are taken?
     
  20. Silas Awaketh

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    Or just hide the cables! :D Thank you!
     
  21. entropy.cz

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    geez... one comes back after few hours and sees... cables being hidden!!! :laugh: simple is beautiful. - but don't forget that he may go and buy a new cable... then you may need to "use" all ports as Shyster1 suggests. but it may work...

    anyway, post back the result! i'm pretty curious about the reaction, really. (but won't making him reinstall his windows be too cruel? :rolleyes: )
     
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    Setup a QoS to limit his bandwidth and/or set his priority to the lowest and all of your hardware the highest. His MAC address will be found in the DHCP log.
     
  23. Silas Awaketh

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    How? Where? I'd love to do that!!

    However, the MAC filtering is working great! :D I let him surf whenever I'm out, and then let him wonder what's wrong the rest of the time! :D
     
  24. Shyster1

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    It may depend on how old, or sophisticated, your router is; I have a Netgear that has QoS settings, but those can only be set by service type, not on a per-client basis (i.e., I couldn't do on my router what blue68f100 suggested).

    Glad to see the MAC filtering is serving its intended purpose, though! :D
     
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    turn off dhcp and create a random subnet mask with just the number of IPs you need and then lock your computers down so he cant view that information.
    MAC filtering is easy to bypass but its not something everyone knows how to do. set up QOS so that his torrenting traffic gets lowest priority when your are browsing the web. there are several things you could do. lock the router down so tight that only port 80 outbound is open. etc. etc.
     
  26. Silas Awaketh

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    First off, thank you all for helping me out!

    Here is what I have done -

    1) I have set the router to only allow my MAC address to access (??) it.
    2) I have also disabled the wired connections (there was an option in the configuration window) so even if he uses a cable, he won't get anything.

    I have been surfing and downloading fine since I've done this, and the order has been restored. :)

    Also, I've changed my plan as well, I've doubled my bandwidth, just for sheet and giggles! :D
     
  27. Shyster1

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    Does he even have a clue yet as to why his connection's suddenly gone dead?
     
  28. Silas Awaketh

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    Nope.

    Also, I've changed the password to the router, and told him that I did it ages ago, and now I've forgotten it and it's in my Opera wand so I just use that to login.
     
  29. entropy.cz

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    this starts being really nasty.

    what about this. rather tell him that your isp called and threatened with something... disconnecting... whatever, because of violating whatever rules. simply, he's been downloading too much. and blocked something so that only your computer, which is not causing troubles, kept connected.

    now let him do whatever, he may try look for workarounds... in the end, you may try to make him promise that never ever etc. anytime he breaks the rules... isp can cut him off.

    i mean... come on, give him a chance to be a good guy :rolleyes:
     
  30. Silas Awaketh

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    Are 3 months and a hundred chances not good enough?
     
  31. Shyster1

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    Uh, oh; any more and you'll have to start filling out your application for sainthood!
     
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    okay, fair enough. at least i tried. ;) (well i probably needed something so that i can just tell "shut up" to my conscience.)

    so how does it all work? what are his theories about that? any windows reinstall on the horizon?