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    Modem ANNOYING BIP!!

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Yamil, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. Yamil

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    Hello People!!

    I have a question regarding the modem. I have a Dell Inspiron 6000 and the modem is a Conexant D110 MDC V.92 Modem. I have Wondows XP Professional SP2. The modem works fine, but everytime I make a phone call, there is a annoying bip that sound all the time ´till the connection is done. That annoying bip sound when I use every modem connection in my computer. I´ve checked the Setup and the modem configuration in the Control Panel, but I didn´t find anything useful.

    Anybody knows how disconnect the ANNOYING BIP that sounds when the modem is used??

    Thanks
     
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    Descride what BIP means please
     
  3. Yamil

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    What I mean with a BIP is a sound, an annoying sound, like bip,bip,bip .... everytime I used the modem and you hear the sound (bip) ´till the connection is done.

    Any ideas???
     
  4. daacon

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    Do you have any configuration software for the Modem ? Can you turn the modem speaker off afer connect ? I remember way back when using various AT commands to tweak modem connections ...

    As to what it is maybe (google blips modem )

    ... Retraining and fallback are ways for modems to adjust to changing line conditions as the connection progresses. This allows modems to optimize their transmission speed and re-negotiate midstream, so connections do not hang or drop. Retraining is like the initial handshake -- several seconds where the modems probe the line in order to configure themselves. Either modem can request a retrain, but the retrain will only occur if the other modem grants it. You can hear the distinctive training sounds if the modem speaker is on. During the several seconds of retraining no data will flow.

    Fallback, on the other hand, is simple speed shifting that is relatively quick, certainly quicker than retraining. Modems can fall back to a pre-determined transfer speed to keep the error rate low, and fall forward when possible to improve throughput. With the modem speaker on, you will hear only a small beep or blip in the carrier hiss. If a noise burst causes a high number of transfer errors, the receiving modem sends a quick fallback blip, which the sending modem must permit. After the sending modem falls back to a slower speed, and the recieving modem sees better line conditions (fewer errors), a fall-forward blip is sent and the connection speeds back up.
    . ...
     
  5. Yamil

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    Yes I can configure the modem in the Control Panel, but there is no way to diconnect the bip. And yes, I can turn off the volume of the modem but I like to hear when the modem get connected or when is busy.

    There is another possible way to disconnect the annoying bip??
     
  6. daacon

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    Well if the blip turns off witht the speaker turned off then I would suggest creating a script using the Hayes AT command set.

    You can trun off the speaker once connected - so that will allow you to hear the connection negotiation as well as if a busy signal comes up once connected it will trun off

    Something like "AT MO" you can google for Modem AT commands to get the exact syntax.

    Then in modem configuration make this script part of the dialup process.

    Good Luck.
     
  7. Yamil

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    Actually, the bip only sounds ´till the connection is done, after that, there is no more bip. The bip starts when you dial the number and will continue´till the connection is done.

    What I can do?
     
  8. daacon

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    Well look to see if you can find the AT commands to 'turn off the Modem speaker after connection" As I mentioned you can try google for ''Hayes Modem commands" . Might try the vendor site for your modem as well.
    I am not sure if you understand what I meant by
    "turn off the Modem speaker after connection"

    This means once the calling modem and receiving modem have negotiated a connection. So yes you will hear the familiar hisses and beeps and your blips while the 'handshaking' is started. You will also hear a busy signal if the line is busy. It is only after the connection between receiving and sending modems has been established (meaning by now you surf the net) will the speaker be turned off. (this is where I understand your issue to be )

    Most dial up connections allow you to run a script before dialing. So you would create a text file with the string
    AT MO (or whatever the commands are I know AT stands for attention modem some settings are comming - you may have to experiement) and configure your dial up connection to execute this script before dialing.

    So try that - or perhaps I do not understand where your "blip issues " comes from :D
     
  9. Yamil

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    Thanks Daacon, but where I can find the AT Commands for my modem?. My modem is an internal modem, included in the Dell Inspiron 6000. Where I can find the AT commands for a Conexant D110 MDC V.92 Modem?

    Thanks
     
  10. daacon

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    You can try the following command lets assume your modem used the standard Hayes command set (most do) but no guarentees :D

    create a file called blippoff.scp (or whatever you like)

    in that script just have line - ATM1

    I think you can activate this script (have not used dial up in soooooooo long and even longer since I had modem sccripts ) in the Secuirty Tab of your dial up properties (intercative Logon and scripting)

    If that does not work - maybe call Dell or look in the Dell forms

    ATMn
    Speaker control

    n=0 Speaker always off

    n=1 Speaker on until carrier detected

    n=2 Speaker always on

    n=3 Speaker on only while answering


    Let us know how it turns out.
     
  11. Yamil

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    I´ve tried the command ATM1 in Advances Options, on Modem Properties in Control Panel. The bip still sounds, and continue in the same way I´ve explained before.

    Another idea?
     
  12. daacon

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    Wow ok try ATM3 if that does not work can you confirm

    If you do turn the modem speaker off or after connected adjust the modem speaker to off does the blip noise dissappear ?

    Try lowering your connection speed ?
    Try turning off error correction ?
    Is there another number you can try to see if it is the same ?
    Phone your ISP see what may be up ?

    Has me perplexed for sure ...........
     
  13. Yamil

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    I´ve tried the command ATM3 and nothing, still sounding. The blip noise dissappear after connected, you hear the blip only during the dialing process and ´till the connection is completed. I´ve tried lowering the connection speed and didn´t work. I´ve tried different phone numbers and different ISP and is the same, the blip is there!!

    How I can turn off the error connection??. You are rigth my friend, has me preplexed too!!

    Any other ideas???
     
  14. daacon

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    I am confused - when you say the above what do you mean by 'connection complete' ?
    a) the negotiation process where the modems establish a connnection once connection is establised you are now dialed in and can start using the Web
    b) You physically disconnect cause you done doing whatever it was you were on the Web For ?

    There should be a bunch of settings in the network properties of your dial up connection where you can change ECC and such.
     
  15. lmychajluk

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    "The blip noise dissappear after connected, you hear the blip only during the dialing process and ´till the connection is completed."

    Isn't that what you wanted? I don't think you can completely turn off just the beeps, because that's part of what the modem uses to connect. You can turn the whole speaker off with the ATM0 command.
     
  16. Yamil

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    I´ll try to explain myself better Daacon. What I mean with "connection complete": Well, I mean the blip starts rigth after the modem dial the phone number and stop when the negotiation process begins, where the modems establish a connnection. I never hear the blip during the negotiation process, neither when the connection is stablished and I´m dialed in. Hope you understand now.

    Regarding lmychajluk, the blip I´m talking about is not the sound you can hear during the negotiation process, neither the sound of the ring or busy phone line, is another annoying blip. As I said before, starts rigth after the modem dial the phone number and stop when the negotiation process begins. It sounds as a blip, blip, blip, ....

    Any ideas? Thks guys!!
     
  17. daacon

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    Well that does explians things better thanks. I am curious if this was always the case as initally I thought the blip was constant throughout from the time you dialed up until the time you ended your internet conection (ie: hung up). That is what my adivce was based on.

    If the 'blip' only occurs during the negotiating process then that could just be the commands sent to the Modem (may be what is used for negotiating best rate , or something). I am not sure anything can be done about that other than shut the modem speaker off completley.

    I am not sure why you would want the modem speaker on at all if it bothers you - you mentioned you wanted to hear if the line was busy , if I remember my dial up days , I am pretty sure you get a screen message indicating that.

    there may be modem commnads to change the sound perhaps but that is beyond my expereince.

    Maybe try new drivers for the modem ?
    I wonder if it is reading a *.wav file from your machine for that 'blip' sound ? Look for a file called modem.inf to see it it points to any *.wav file.

    Anyway that is all I have left at this point haha -

    Good Luck
     
  18. USAFdude02

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    This kinda sounds like when the old AOL used to do that. What you are hearing might be the handshake between you and the server you are dialing into. Like Daacon said, their should be a like an .ini file.

    When you open the .ini file it should say something like play sound C:Win32/system/blip.wav if you delete that part it won't play the sound. :)
     
  19. lmychajluk

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    Granted, I haven't used dial-up in a while, but I don't remember a fairly fast blip, blip, blip... I do want to say there was more of a beep...pause...beep pattern until the modem connected (not too different from a fax), but the blip could be part of a newer protocol that I haven't heard.
     
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    i don't like that annoying beep of my modem so here's what i did to shut it!

    click start>connect to>see all network connections>dial up

    then right click dial up and click properties

    in "general" tab you will see an option "configure" (this will configure your modem). when you open it you need to UNCHECK the option ENABLE MODEM SPEAKER. that way you can shut that annoying BIP!!!
     
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    Thnks guys!!. I´ll try to respond:

    Daacon: I never hear the blip during the negotiation process, well actually sounds as a BEEP as lmychajluk said. I only hear the BEEP when the modem is dialing the phone number, when the negotiation process starts the BEEP stops. You can hear the BEEP at the same time you are hearing the ring or the busy tone of the phone you are dialing. Then, the BEEP stops when the negotiation process starts.

    Any ideas now??

    Daacon and USAFdude02: I´ll look for the modem.inf file to check for the wav file. Thks.

    lmychajluk: you are rigth, is ,more like a Beep, pause, Beep, pause, Beep .... than a Blip.

    qohelet: I don´t like to turn off the modem volume ´cause I like to know the progress of the connection, sometimes my server is busy, busy, and I hate not know whats going on!!

    Thks guys. Any other ideas??
     
  22. Yamil

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    I´ve searched for the file modem.inf, or *modem*.inf and nothing was found, this file doesn´t exist in my computer.

    Other idea??
     
  23. lmychajluk

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    I really don't think you can turn it off without turning off the modem speaker completely. It's part of the signals that the modems use to recognize each other and negotiate a connection. You can mute the modem speaker before or after this handshaking process, but it's an all or nothing thing. It's basically like saying "I want to hear all of my phone conversation except for the word 'Hello'".
     
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    yeah i agree with lmychajluk!

    it's either you have sound or no sound at all!

    choose then... :)
     
  25. daacon

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    So I think the consensus is for now you choices are

    1. Turn the Modem speaker off
    2. Adjust the volume on the Modem speaker
    3. Get Broadband :D

    I can't find any way to change the sound or turn off selective noises for modem negotiation.

    Good Luck
     
  26. Yamil

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    Hello Guys!!

    I think you don´t understadme, or I didn´t find the way to explain my self better. I don´t talking about the signals you can hear when the modem starts the negotiation process. I don´t talking about the signals the modem use to recognize each other. I don´t mean to "I want to hear all of my phone conversation except for the word 'Hello', is not that. I´ll try to describe the deiference between the two sounds:

    Negotiation process (signals): fffrrrrriiiiiiiigggthhhhtccchhhrrrriigggththh

    Annoying BEEP: beep,... pause, .... BEEP, ... pause, .... BEEP, .... BEEP ...

    And then you can hear, at the same time as the annoying BEEP, the phone ringing or the line busy. After that, when the negotiation process starts, the ANNOYING BEEP STOPS!!.

    Never, I mean never, I can hear the BEEP during the negotiation process. The negotiation process of my modem is normal and I want to keep it like that.

    I just want to get rid of the ANNOYING BEEP I can hear during the call, at the same time when I hear the phone ringing or the line busy, AND IS NOT THE PHONE RINGING OR THE LINE BUSY, IS AN ANNOYING BEEP!!!

    BEEP, .... PAUSE .... BEEP, .... PAUSE ... BEEP ....

    Hope you guys understand better now!!!
     
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    Im osrry but i still don't understand what your saying.

    Questions:
    1) When does this happen?
    2) Why do you think it happens?
    3) What does this sound like?
    4) Any electrical devices near the Modem?
     
  28. Yamil

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    Here we go:

    1. When does this happen?: it happens everytime I use the modem. I can hear the BEEP when the modem is dialing a number, during the calling process and the BEEP stops when the negotiation process starts.
    2. Why do you think it happens?: well thats my question, i would like to know why it happens!!!
    3. What does this sound like?: Like a:
    BEEP, pause, BEEP, pause, BEEP, pause, BEEP...
    Is not the phone ringing, or the line busy and neither the caracteristic sound of the negotiation process between the modem in the server and the modem.
    4. Any electrical devices near the Modem?: No, is an internal modem of a Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop. Near the laptop only my stereo!!

    Any ideas???
     
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    How load is it? If its pretty quiet, its probaly normal. But im puzzled...
     
  30. Yamil

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    Well is not to load, but for sure is not normal. The normal will be:

    1. You can hear the modem dialing.
    2. You can hear the phone ringing.
    3. You can hear the negotiation process.
    4. You are connected. Windows shown the icon to tell you are conencted.

    Is correct??. Well what happens to me is that between the 1st and the 2nd step I can HEAR AN ANNOYIN BEEP!!. Like:

    beep, ... , beep, ... , beep,... beep ...

    Any ideas??
     
  31. daacon

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    Haha Yamil you are relentless I'll give you that :D when something bothers you it bothers you hahaha

    - a few more random ideas (all I have left)

    Are you sure your dial up properties has the
    right country code ?
    right area code ?
    right dial tone (pulse / tone) ?
    Does this only happen with your laptop ? Can others connect 'beepless' so to speak from you phone line ?
    Edit : Can you connect 'beepless' on different phone lines or different ISP's

    If yes to the last question / maybe Check the Dell site for new drivers for your modem. If none try the vendors site or seach on google based on modem name

    After all that I would also suggest - contact your ISP see if there are any settings they can switch for you. The maybe Email Dell tech support (to at least get it reqistered - if you still have support is shoudl be free )
     
  32. Yamil

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    Thank you Daacon, sorry if I sounded relentless, wasn´t my idea. I´m just pissed off with this BEEP, and you guys give me a lot of ideas and nothing!!.

    Well good news!!!. I´ve checked the country and area code and wasn´t correct, so I changed to the correct ones, and works!!! THE ANNOYING BEEP IS GONE!!! NO MORE ****ING BEEP!!

    Thanks a lot guys, specially Daacon!!!
     
  33. daacon

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    Wow glad it was solved :D