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    Mississippi Getting 1GB/s Fiber Internet

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by WhatsThePoint, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. WhatsThePoint

    WhatsThePoint Notebook Virtuoso

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    Lucky residents living in nine Mississippi cities are now able to pre-register for C-Spire's upcoming 1Gbps fiber-to-home Internet service. It's supposedly the nation's first and only statewide roll out of 1Gbps broadband, which translates into Internet access that's up to 100 times faster than the national average broadband speeds for residents in each of the nine selected cities.

    Specifically, the 1Gbps service is blazing a trail through Batesville, Clinton, Corinth, Hattlesburg, Horn Lake, McComb, Quitman, Ridgeland, and Starkville.

    Those who pre-register must make a $10 refundable deposit and provide credit card information.

    C Spire Launches Next Phase of Its Fiber to the Home Initiative: Homeowner Pre-Registration for 100 Times Faster Internet | Business Wire
     
  2. Jarhead

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    In Mississippi, in all places? Hmmm...
     
  3. Jobine

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    Does this actually mean 1gbps download speeds or something more like 250mb/s?
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I don't think there's a difference really - even if it is a real 1Gbps- where would you be able to download from at that speed?

    It is 128MB/s (Megabytes) so it's faster than most NASes and would be faster than all 5400 and 7200 rpm notebook drives and would max out most 3.5" HDDs.
    And that's before we even get to the important part - who in the hell seeds/uploads anything at this speed? You'd have no one to download from.

    On top of that you would need a carefully chosen router as only the best SOHO routers have LAN-WAN throughput of more that 1Gbps.

    That said it's a good news and it's supposed to cost $80/month which is reasonable to say the least.
     
  5. Towlieee

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    Nice! Glad to see it rolling out more places. I live in Kansas city, but I'm not currently in an area that gets google fiber. I can't wait tell I'm able to move to google fiber land. Hopefully this summer. Currently paying nearly $150 for two 50mbit cable connections from Time Warner, using a dual WAN router to load balance.

    I think 1gbit connection is more for "e- size", but I still would find a way to max out that connection every once in a blue moon. I can't see anyone really "needing" that kind of speed. I can download over 100gB in a day just donwloading at 8-9mB/s
     
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    Man, I have to hand it to you. Your answer is right on the spot. I learn something new from your answer. Thank you very much!
     
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    As Gbit internet is getting popular, hardware manufacturers should now make 10 Gbit Ethernet as mainstream to accommodate every single bit of that speed. Also, we need to have a 4x4 streams 80 or 160 MHz channel width 256 QAM WiFi specs to get that Gbps throughput on 5 GHz band or use the line of sight short range 60 GHz 802.11ad WiFi technology. A 1 Gbps Ethernet will give 900 - 990Mbps throughput, depending on the quality of the drivers and hardware. This bandwidth will easily stream 50 GB, 2 hour movie blu-ray quality.
     
  8. EasyCruz

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    The need for speed. 1 gig delivery is nice. Take a look
    at the picture. It’s an AT&T Data Center. A Cisco SONET shop.
    10 gig Aqua blue fibered. Racked and stacked, floor to ceiling.
    -48VDC power plant. I was in there. It’s a work of art, stunning.

    1 gig, 10 gig, 40 gig, 100 gig. Did you say 40 gig & 100 gig?
    Yeah, the financial cry babies want it for the black box derivative servers.
    HINT: NYSE 400,000 sq. foot Data center.
    These guys aren’t gamers. Making money on time differentials and executing
    the delta factor trade with no human intervention is the name of the game.
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  9. ajkula66

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    The sky is the limit...

    A decade ago I was involved in the design of a three-floor-conventional-fiber-delivery for a now-defunct, well-known banking giant...very impressive piece of work that one was, once it got completed. Zillions of point-to-points headed to server farms in NJ and so much more...

    That industry was always the one to get the latest and greatest. Beyond imagination of most people.

    I haven't been to 11 Wall St. in many years, but am certain that the amount of data entering and exiting that place nowadays is nothing short of breath-taking...
     
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    ajkula66,

    Two words for you my old friend. They are InfiniBand and SFP+. :D I also love EtherChannel. ;)
     
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    The bitter cold outside must be getting to my little gray cells since I'm not quite sure I'm getting your point here, old boy...

    None of the terms that you're throwing around have much to do with my post...:confused:
     
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    LOL! We were discuss about fiber optic technology, and those things make fiber optic hums. SFP+ is for 10 GigE port on a switch. InfiniBand will go 40 Gbps. EtherChannel combines ports to increase bandwidth and fail over for uplink port. There are a lot more technical things behind those terms, but I just try to make it simple for you. :)
     
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    OK, apart from proving yourself as a Cisco fanboi and connoisseur once again, I still see no relevance in it...for the following reasons:

    a) The first part of my post was discussing something that happened a decade ago...and you had no part in.

    b) The second part of my post was a reference to NYSE, with a clear acknowledgment on my end that I have no clue what's inside of it right now, network-wise. Guess what? Neither do you.

    Back to the topic: how do I get a 1GB/s residential fiber here in rural PA, so I can finally ditch my slow (but surprisingly reliable) ADSL? Run a conduit from MS?

    Yeah, I didn't think so myself...;)
     
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    LOL! I think you are the reason why I love this forum. I don't want to disappoint you, but I don't think all the technical terms I said indicate that I am Cisco fan boy. There are more than just Cisco in networking world. Let just say I know beyond Cisco world. There is something better than Cisco out there.

    I apologize about talking about networking in the old world. You are correct. I don't know much about older technology. I might know something about NYSE, but I just don't spit a lot of things out in public forum. A lot of things are proprietary and trade secret on how to do certain things in organizations.

    To answer your question, you need fiber optic from your ISP. It is most likely going to be point-to-point connection. I bet that your ISP is going to have concentrator somewhere to route back to its core switch. They might run either BGP or IS-IS inside their network.They will use networking software to police your bandwidth. I called "Policing" or "Traffic Shaping". Your ISP might use MS DNS for query, or you might access outlook.com using MS Exchange technology. As usual, I try to make it short and simple for you. ;)
     
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    You see, there IS something we can agree upon...:hi2:

    Indeed they are.

    My point - which likely wasn't made clearly enough - is that even if you had been given a tour of NYSE a year ago, you wouldn't have the proper picture now. You have *no* idea how badly Sandy trashed Downtown. And this is coming from someone who survived 9/11 in NYC.


    I guess I'll have to invite you to spend a weekend with us here so you can fully comprehend the meaning of the term "rural PA". Let me throw you a little hint:

    I have a whopping choice of two ISPs at my current address: one is an ILEC, and one is a cable company.

    All I can get from the ILEC is an ADSL. No FiOS, Uverse, FTTH/FTTP of any kind. Nada.

    My other choice is a *severely* overpriced broadband from the cable company, which would be $125 for a 50/5 connection...

    In closing, let's just say that I'm light years away from paying $80 for 1Gb link and it's likely to stay that way...not by my choice.
     
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    FYI…Only if I had $8.2 billion, missed it. The NYSE US/UK data centers were sold 2012.

    •In the latest consolidation among stock exchanges, The Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) will acquire NYSE Euronext for about $8.2 billion.
    NYSE That includes two immense, starte-of-the-art data centers that NYSE Euronext has built in New Jersey and London.

    •There are few data centers in the world that are more difficult to get into than the new NYSE Euronext facility in Mahwah, New Jersey.
    The huge building features extremely strong access control, a substantial security perimeter, and is built to survive … well, just about anything.
    “It is more robust than your typical structure,” said Steve Rubinow, Chief Information Office at NYSE Euronext, who said the data center
    “can withstand levels of punishment – both man-made and natural – that other facilities might not withstand.”
    The 400,000 square foot data center has been engineered for security, speed and reliability to support its mission
    as the nerve center for the NYSE”s electronic trading operations.
     
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    Let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we?
     
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    So when do I get 1GB/s fiber? :(...
     
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    1 Gbps action in Austin Texas:

    Google Fiber offers free 1 Gbps lines to 100 Austin locations.
    It's not as if cities aren't getting some perks out of the arrangement. As part of Google Fiber's deal with Austin,
    the city is to receive free, 1 Gbps connections at 100 locations for the next decade.

    Problem. AT&T whines about sharing utility poles with Google Fiber.
    AT&T got annoyed last week by a City of Austin plan aimed at making it easier for Austin-area competitors to attach to city utility poles.
    The Austin City Council planned to vote this week to change rules that would now require AT&T let Google lease space on their towers.
     
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    For all I care, AT&T and the other teleco's can suck it. Those are tax-paid poles anyway... My two cents only though.
     
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    Actually, they're not.

    The whole aspect of pole ownership is a rather complicated legal issue in most areas. I'm not going to even pretend that I have the vaguest idea of what the particular setup in Austin, TX is.

    I predict that Google will get their way in the end, but not without additional pushback from AT&T...

    The latter is still the largest landline communications company in the U.S.

     
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    1 Gbps battle heats up in Austin Texas. AT&T GigaPower Vs Google Fiber

    AT&T has officially announced that the company's first 1 Gbps fiber to the home users (who'll initially see 300 Mbps until next year) have come online in Austin.
    The "GigaPower" service was announced after Google Fiber announced they were coming to Austin. AT&T had been mum on pricing for the new service,
    but a new announcement indicates that users are going to have two options for just Internet service:

    • Premier: Internet speeds up to 300 Mbps – download an HD movie in less than two minutes for $70 per month, includes waiver of equipment, installation and activation fees.

    • Standard: Internet speeds up to 300 mbps – download your favorite TV show in less than nine seconds for $99 per month.

    That's a thirty dollar markup from Google Fiber pricing simply for not wanting to have your online activity watched and monetized by AT&T.
    While Google tracks search history, cookies and GPS location data, AT&T's Internet Preferences appears to use deep packet inspection
    (a la Phorm or NebuAD) to monitor each and every packet, including how long you spend on specific websites.
     
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    Shame on AT&T...

    Anyway, you got to love what a little competition can bring to a market :).