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    MSI GT83 Killer 1535 broken - LF> working WiFi card

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Rothcall, Aug 26, 2017.

  1. Rothcall

    Rothcall Notebook Consultant

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    Earlier today the Killer 1535 wireless card in my MSI GT83 broke. it had been acting up for a couple dfays now but after having to force shutdown the laptop after a game hardlocked it, it disconnects so frequently the laptop is useless. This is the 6th wifi card ive had just outright break like this in a year.

    I've done the big three: flush DNS, netsh winsock reset, and reset.log hit

    Ive updated the drivers

    I did my duty and didn't install the killer suite

    I've set windows to not turn it off to save power

    Ive reset the router

    I've tried powerline adapters (they arent working after a house rewiring)

    The last wifi card i bought (an intel 8260 to replace a 7260) was unfortunately custom made by Super Satan. it would crash its drivers upon boot and bluescreen the laptop if you tried to re-enable it.

    Can anyone with this kindof bad luck reccomend a card that actually works?. So far the solution has unfortunately been replace the entire laptop, but i just cant keep doing that.
     
  2. asm1

    asm1 Notebook Evangelist

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    Buy an Intel 8265. Forget the "custom made job" and go with bog-standard. I did that and bought an Msata---->M2NGFF adapter and it worked happy as Larry in my last laptop, a Gigabyte P34W v3. It too replaced a 7260 in the Gigabyte and is now working happily in my new GE62 7RF Apache pro without adapter - was the first upgrade I did, replkacing the intel 3168 that came with it.

    Clean out all your craptastic drivers and have a go with the 8265. Mine is working flawlessly.
     
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    Can you link exactly where you bought it? I dont want another Super Satan LLC manufactured one like what happened when i just got the top rated on amazon (the 8260).
     
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    I got my 8260 and 8265 from UK sellers on ebay, I'd heard about the fakes and I thought some of the quotes were a little *too* cheap . Where are you ?
     
  5. Rothcall

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    United states. The main option here seems to be amazon or maybe newegg.
     
  6. Vasudev

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    Did you check the m.2 slot works correctly, I mean if its functioning alright? Its strange case. Did you run a Preboot System Assessment that ships with MSI?
    If any of those tests report an error, contact MSI. I think its faulty power delivery to WLAN or your board.
     
  7. Rothcall

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    Back sorry. And not sure how to check that. i'm not having the elder god of all errors with a 1435 too; Default Gateway Not Available. I gave up on the GT83 wireless after i finally got the powerline adapters working because id be more likely to suddenly inherit goldman sachs than get the wifi card working.
     
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    I've never heard of this much trouble with a Wifi card, 6x is amazing.

    I've never even heard of 2x failures, usually someone gets a 1 new Wifi card and that's it.

    At this point I'd question the correct function of the slot you are plugging them into, and get MSI to RMA that motherboard.
     
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  9. Rothcall

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    Its not just one laptop, The Gt80 had a faulty intel 7260 card and then a satanic intel 8260 one. The razer had a bad 7260. The previous AW13 had a bad card. The GT83's 1535 is dead, and now the AW17's 1435 seems to be on its way out.
     
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    Wow, are you Magneto's son, or something? ;)

    IDK what's going on with your laptops, but this isn't normal...
     
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    Nah, just cursed to an eternity of frivilously trying to get a working wifi card while shifting through a million "JUST FLUSH YER DNS AND HIT YER WINSOCKS" copypastas.

    I do wish when people said stuff like buy intel that they'd link exactly where they got theirs. That satanic 8260 for example, has me questioning how someone could buy that and still reccomend intel instead of clawing their own eyes out in pain. Meaning there may be different versions of the same card with the same slot type.
     
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    Generally it's best to buy "the original" when it comes to these parts, a straight Intel made card would be a little more expensive but save you headaches down the road.

    8260 shipped by newegg:
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106284&ignorebbr=1

    For the 8265 newegg isn't selling them, so you'd need to get one from one of their affiliate sellers:
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...60507&cm_re=intel_8265-_-33-106-299-_-Product
     
  13. Rothcall

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    Ill give the 8265 a try but.. what would an imitation look like so i know if i've gotten one? I thought only intel made their cards.
     
  14. hmscott

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    IDK, knock-off's might look "exactly" the same, that's why I was hoping newegg shipped them directly from Intel.

    Maybe look at Intel's recommended vendor list and see if any of them sell 8265 Intel direct built cards.

    Intel® Authorized Distributors and Approved Suppliers
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/partner/where-to-buy/overview.html

    Intel Honors 27 Companies with Preferred Quality Supplier and Achievement Awards

    https://newsroom.intel.com/news-rel...rred-quality-supplier-and-achievement-awards/

    You could try asking "Intel Chat" for a Intel approved 8265 vendor local to you:
    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/contact-support.html
    https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/my-intel/reseller-login.html?source=https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/partner/where-to-buy/overview.html&redirect=https://www-ssl.intel.com/content/www/us/en/secure/technology-provider/buying-and-support/overview.html
     
  15. Rothcall

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    They're all business distributors it seems like. I badly need an exact link where someone bought theirs that works, even if it has to have overseas shipping at this point. Especially after the amazon one was either custom made by satan, or a knockoff that looks just like the newegg image.
     
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    @Phoenix has a thread dedicated to the 8265, try reaching out for ordering info there:

    Just upgraded to an Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/just-upgraded-to-an-intel-dual-band-wireless-ac-8265.797899/
     
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    @Rothcall
    That's what I've heard from others too, the 1535 has better range and faster transfer speeds at the edge of that range. The Killer card has a better RF range for Wifi and Bluetooth 4.1, if you can tame the software suite, which isn't that tough :)

    https://www.amazon.com/Killer-1535-...=1-1&keywords=1535+M.2+Notebook+Wireless+Card
     
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    The GT83 has a killer 1535 that's dieing/dead. Not sure i trust another one, especially since the software suite removal/taming stuff didnt help me one bit.
     
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    If it's the hardware card that's dieing the software fixes wouldn't have helped, so tough to judge it based on that. All but a few (likely with older routers) say their problems are solved by uninstalling the 1535 Killer Suite and using the "drivers only" package.

    You could try a replacement 1535 card and then load the "drivers only" version of the Killer software, or RMA it, MSI will debug it and they can also then replace the motherboard and/or antenna's if there is a problem elsewhere "off card".
     
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    Yeah.. my problem there is the GT83 is my desktop, abd the display panel on the AW17 is so ghosty that i dont know about using it for day to day stuff for the month or so the RMA department will have the GT83 for even a chance of them looking at it.

    Hoping to keep that to a last resort if i can help it xx;
     
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    @hmscott you said something about warranty but the message got cut off, mind repeating?
     
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    Never mind then :)
     
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    That's the GT80, and it seems to have gone away after unplugging it and plugging it back in (no clue why or what it was). The Gt80's warranty is long gone. THe only issue ive had with the 83 has been the wifi card, rest of it's worked just fine after some initial setup mess thanks to pre-installed software..
     
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    Never mind then :)