The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Laptop won't find specific WiFi network

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by whizzo, Oct 24, 2010.

  1. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    769
    Messages:
    5,851
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    My sister's laptop (Dell E6400) won't find our home WiFi network. It finds the neighbor's networks just fine, as well as her school network at university, but not our home network. Already tried updating the WiFi drivers, but I think it's more of a problem with the router. Any ideas what to try next?
     
  2. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    7,729
    Messages:
    8,722
    Likes Received:
    2,230
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Does the network have a hidden SSID?
    Some Wi-Fi cards have trouble seeing such networks even if you type in the SSID properly.
     
  3. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    769
    Messages:
    5,851
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    nope, the SSID is open/broadcasting. I've also tried resetting the router.
     
  4. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    7,729
    Messages:
    8,722
    Likes Received:
    2,230
    Trophy Points:
    331
    What is the router then? Is the firmware up to date?
    Are some not typical signs in the SSID (like & % # etc)- there are some issues with those (I found that routers made in Germany or with German firmware tend to dislike <<@>> and <<">> signs for some reason)

    What's the wireless channel on the router? Set if to a channel in the middle of a range like channel 6 for testing but nothing towards the end.
     
  5. Nankuru

    Nankuru Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    215
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Are the router and card compatible types:wireless G or N etc?
     
  6. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    7,729
    Messages:
    8,722
    Likes Received:
    2,230
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Every wireless N device (be it a Wi-Fi card or a router) will automatically fall back to G when G device is present trying to connect. Even if the router was set to "n only" SSID should be visible.

    The only possibility remaining is that the router is running @5GHz and the computer has a Wi-Fi card that's capable only of running @2.4GHz band.
     
  7. sama98b

    sama98b Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    40
    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Just to make sure set router to channel 1-11
    Some wireless (most) can't see wireless over chancel 11 (but some can go up to channel 14 on g)
     
  8. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

    Reputations:
    6,156
    Messages:
    11,214
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    466
    What router and adapter do you have? Also what wireless/security modes are you using?

    Try running InSSIDer or other wifi analyzers
     
  9. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    769
    Messages:
    5,851
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    Router is a Motorola Netopia 3357, laptop is a Dell Latitude E6400 with an Intel 5100 card.

    on a side note, the laptop used to find the network just fine in the past.
     
  10. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    769
    Messages:
    5,851
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    ran inSSIDer. It shows the neighboring networks normally, and our network very rarely - like it finds "wisps" of it from time to time (even though i was sitting right next to the router). I tried setting the router to variety of channels between 1 and 11, but nothing worked.
     
  11. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    7,729
    Messages:
    8,722
    Likes Received:
    2,230
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Do you have any other wireless devices to verify it's router's fault?
    By the looks of it radio on the router may be failing.
    If the router has any settings regarding transmit power turn it down if possible.
     
  12. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    769
    Messages:
    5,851
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    tried resetting the router. what's throwing me off is that my own laptops see the network just fine.

    one thing i did notice is that the culprit laptop's WiFi driver is labeled "Intel 5100 Packetplaner-Miniport". Could this be the problem?
     
  13. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

    Reputations:
    6,156
    Messages:
    11,214
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Probably is, update your drivers. Its using a windows given driver
     
  14. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    769
    Messages:
    5,851
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    i've tried that many, many times. also cleaned out the registry each time as well. but it seems like Windows is always beating me to it when it comes to re-installing. is there a foolproof way to reinstall a driver without Windows taking over and installing its one driver?
     
  15. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

    Reputations:
    6,156
    Messages:
    11,214
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Install the complete Intel PROset tools and drivers, that should take over Windows Zero
     
  16. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    769
    Messages:
    5,851
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    206
    So, quick update. Just installed Windows 7 Professional, 64bit. fresh install, new partition, the works. guess what? still doesn't find the damned network. the neighboring networks show up just fine, our home network still doesn't.

    that ought to point towards a hardware defect, no?
     
  17. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    7,729
    Messages:
    8,722
    Likes Received:
    2,230
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Have you tried changing the name of the network (SSID).
    Since you have another notebook to test it just swap wireless cards to cross-check it. That would confirm or rule out a hardware problem.
     
  18. blue68f100

    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,020
    Messages:
    3,439
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    Does your SSID have other chr beside letters and numbers?