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    Killer Wireless-AC 1550 Review

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. Vasudev

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    IIRC, they say 2x80MHz. Better ask @Starlight5
     
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    @Aivxtla The problem is I don't know if the Marvell radio chip in my router supports 80+80MHz either. :rolleyes:
    Marvell wrote the publicity blurb pretty much the same way Intel did - they brag about 160MHz but do not get into details.
    While I don't have an option in GUI to set channels as 80+80 but that doesn't mean it's impossible - especially that WRT32X firmware is based on OpenWRT. Unfortunately "based on" is not enough and some OpenWRT commands do not work due to the fact that Wi-Fi driver is closed source. So I still know nothing :cool:

    It would be helpful to have 80+80 - I haven't realized how helpful until I realized how much of an issue DFS is, not to mention how hard it would be to find 160MHz of continuous relatively free "air".
     
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    Well my 9260 working fine


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
     
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    @Aivxtla I read that 9260/1550 doesn't support 80+80, at least now.
     
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    Well if that's the case than 80+80 doesn't exist for all it's worth. There is literally one card that consumers can buy that supports 160Mhz channels so if it doesn't support 80+80... :(

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    EDIT:
    @kqmaverick @Killer_Networking
    The new firmware for WRT32X might have fixed issues with 160MHz channels but seems to have introduced new ones.
    People on Linksys forums complain about increased pings and router losing wireless and wired connections if a device is connected to Ethernet port 1.
    I can't verify that any of this is true but I also had issues with this new firmware to the point where 5GHz network wouldn't start at all and at times I couldn't access GUI, so there might be some issues with it.

    If you run into any the solution is to flash back the older firmware. The fix for 160MHz channels introduced in the latest firmware was just a setting and settings get retained during an update unless an update is meant to change them and specifically overwrites any of them. As such if you flash back the previous firmware the A-MSDU fix sticks from the new firmware and you end up with previous firmware working with 160MHz channels correctly.
     
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    Anyone else trying Intel WHQL Wireless ProSet 20.60.0.7?

    I normally get 229 Mbps download speed in Speedtest but now 238.45 Mbps
     

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    No difference in transfers (already near hardware max but was hoping for better sustained speeds) to my NAS compared to before. I had it installed since yesterday and haven't noticed much difference, maybe its some minor bug fixes. Glad to see its helping you out though. I would test to LAN rather then internet though as congestion/timings can have impact in net transfers.
     
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    Hi Phoenix

    How do you install the new drivers? There doesn't seem to be a setup app...
     
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    They are INF drivers, you extract the zip to a folder then go to device manager, network adapters, right click on the Killer 1550 and choose update driver then point it to where you extracted the driver.
     
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    So has the updates fixed this component?
     
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    This component? what component? [​IMG]
     
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    Wifi component, aka Killer 1550 :D
     
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    WLAN card
     
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    And BT of course.
    Did anyone of you guys notice/see W10 complaining about Device setup incomplete when BT driver for w10 is used? All my phones does this. Installing W7 BT driver fixes this though!
    EDIT: I skipped 1550 WLAN drivers install on 1535.
     
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    I don't think I've ever seen anyone mention the Killer 1535 as being a trusty card. In my experience this is the worst card ever with crazy ping spikes and slow loading even when super close to the router.
     
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    I had horrible range issues with the 9260. My 1535 has been rock solid in the last 4 laptops I’ve had. Make sure you o.pen device manager > Network Adapters >Right click Killer 1535 and select properties. Click on Advanced tab and change roaming aggressiveness to Lowest and Prefer 5GHz band options and that will fix the issue.
    Also, remove Killer Control Center from Startup and manually start it by clicking it on desktop. W10 Network manager acts weird when KCC app is auto started at log on. You get strange disconnects or random issues.
     
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    @pathfindercod & @Drinky You might see Thread jacked image by phoenix any time now.
    I always do what pathfindercod suggested. So far, its running great for 8 months.
    BTW, phoenix did complain about 1550 on GT73VR but on GT75VR I didn't see him complaining. Naturally, new chipset fixed most of the issues he faced.
     
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    I have no issues to complain about with the 1550 paired with an R7800 running Voxel's latest firmware.

    Never had a 1535 but did use a 1525 for a few years without much trouble.

    Wireless fact of life,the further from the router the lower the signal strength.Add in any walls and floors and signal strength goes even lower.

    All routers are not created equal when paired with certain wireless cards.

    I'm on 5ghz channel 36

    I do not have the Killer Control Center run when Windows 10Pro x64 starts up.

    I don't have Bluetooth drivers installed.

    I'm using v20.60.0.7 wireless proset.

    I clean install Windows every 3 months or so and keep much of the clutter on a storage drive.
     
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    I don't have a 5Ghz router. Or well, I do but it's not dual-band so I can only use one or the other. Since my roommates have some old ass laptops which don't support the 5Ghz frequency band we're on the 2.4Ghz channels which are least saturated. I don't have the Killer control center, that thing was making things impossible.

    I've been breaking my neck trying to figure out what's causing my ping spikes in games. It gets to the point where it's just unplayable and my internet connection is good most of the time. For €20 it's worth trying something else if that fixes my issues


    Yep, every router is different, and every house too. Old European apartments with thick, concrete walls are a different beast from the wood and drywall American homes when it comes to signal strength for example. Living in an apartment block vs living in a free standing house, line of sight to the router, antenna setup in the laptop etc. . I know that in my place the 5Ghz band won't do too well because there's just too much in between. The 2.4Ghz frequency has a lot less difficulty getting through. Can't hurt to try it out I'd reckon for the price and keep the Killer 1535 on hand if needed, but I somehow doubt that. I'm currently getting full 5 bars and 300mbit connection speed according to my adapter status (my router's max speed), but I can tell you that even though all those things seem to be ok, my internet experience definitely isn't. There are just so many times that I have to turn my wifi off and back on for it to function properly again in-game or during browsing that it's not fun anymore.
     
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    Ok, that 2.4GHz or 5GHz band is simply a priority. If you use 2.4GHz, then switch it to 2.4GHz.
    I'm using 5GHz with channel 151. I'm really far away and usually 2.4GHz can't give good speeds while 5GHz really has great speeds and less lags than 2.4GHz.
    I had the same issue like you do, frequent power cycling whilst heavy usage. After getting dual band, power cycle frequency is reduced by 90%.
     
  22. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    @Phoenix I hope everything work well now. Both the Killer software and the drivers. Next level of frustration is coming to hunt on you :D
    [​IMG]
    Computex 2018 | Killer Wireless xTend software turns your laptop into a network extender
    Killer Networking has announced a new software product that integrates with their top-of-the-line Killer Wireless-AC 1550 network card.

    The Killer xTend software turns Killer Wireless equipped computers into wireless extenders via hotspot or mesh networking. The host computer can extend the network via either wireless or LAN, and Killer's traffic prioritisation and optimisation is in effect for the host and any connected devices...
     
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    I have not the need for hotspots and moreover I have not the need to install any software from Killer Networks. Thank you, pass me the p0p c0rn please [​IMG]

    PS: j00 feel free to convert your taptop into a mobile free hotspot for the neighborhood in Norway [​IMG]
     
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    None near enough to steal of my bandwidth :) And I can [​IMG] here as well.
    F9146104-AFE1-4E7B-A173-658512DCA2C7.jpeg
     
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    All I see in that photo is that dog walking away as soon as it heard more new Killer Software.....
     
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    Quite helpful for people who have only ethernet to connect and no wifi AP and taptop's WiFi should be a lot better than dongle/MiFi's to handle lot of users above 10.
     
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    Just say no to firmware/driver/Micro$lop updates: problem solved :vbthumbsup:

    Hardware and firmware castration aside, software bloatware features are the root of all evil in our post-modern Windoze OS X millennial WHQL certified malware-ridden hell-hole. INF-only FTW.

    [​IMG]
     
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    With v1803 most of them are moving to UWP drivers and I am trying my hand at those now.
     
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    Hmm... maybe that explains why v1803 seems like it is the most unstable version of Windows I have tested since Windows ME.
     
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    Windows 10 FCU was a stepping stone for UWP app base.
    A little correction, inf files will be present and only Softwares are affected by the change. INFs driver install will be valid for couple of years.
     
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    Ah yes... I suspect that explains why Windoze OS X FCU is a piece of trash then. I was not actually going to test it, but decided I needed to bolster the credibility of my hatred for it by actually forcing myself to use it. So far, it's everything I expected it to be... which is definitely not a compliment. The bar was placed as low as possible on my expectations, and it's still a "does not meet" LOL.

    @Vasudev - I'm actually in the process of verifying SCU is also digital garbage... so far, it's exactly that. No better than FCU from what I can see so far.
    upload_2018-6-5_9-12-54.png
     
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    im guessing ure still happy with enterprise LTSB then? :)
     
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    Well... I guess you could say that, using the word "happy" in a purely relative sense and not literally. Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB is the least screwed up version of Windows 10, for sure. And, the most stable. Still not as good as Windows 7, but I doubt it ever will be. They seem hell bent on building in a ton of worthless bloat filth in the crappy Home and Pro versions and that just bogs things down and wastes drive space while adding absolutely nothing of any value.
     
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    Stick to the subject please - it's not a Win 10 thread.
     
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    It has nothing to do with your download speed or upload.. The upgraded speed is actually network speed between devices bare in mind..
    And to fully use this bumped speed needs latest router + other devices on other side.. Not just yours.. If other side is slow then no point.....
     
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    I didn't say internet speed was limited by KCC.
    I meant running speedtest via KCC is quicker since you don't have to type the URL and click GO button.
    The speedtest module simplifies the process.
     
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    Anyone have an issue with the 1550 where it takes an excessively long time for it to reconnect to your network following a reboot? Mine takes upwards of 60 seconds. If I manually connect it works fine. Almost like there’s a built in delay
     
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    I can't be 100% sure because I have flashed newer version of DD-WRT and then got back to the previous one which might have left some "new" settings, but it seems that the driver above fixed issues Intel 9260/Killer 1550 had with A-MSDU higher than 7900 resulting in drastic improvement in performance with Marvell chips at 160MHz channel width.
    It's odd that we get new drivers from Killer despite the fact that Intel is the one making them but I'm not complaining :)
     
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    Well I am in touch with their management who hooked me up with this driver a bit earlier. Now they released it and Intel followed suite a week later. Previously though, Intel was shooting one Driver update after the other while Killer was quite. The good thing is the drivers are the same so we can always grab the latest.
     
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    Seems like Intel now takes a longer time to certify the drivers before release and it seems with the added benefit of using Killer as beta testers for the drivers. Station Drivers however also seems to get them because they were there a while back as well.

    Sometimes though not always newer drivers are on Microsoft's Windows Catalog site as well when searching for the 9560 specifically though the drivers work with the 9260.

    Would be cool if Intel had a beta section, I have a 1 hour long site reorganization "test" with Intel on Tuesday so I will try to ask them to have a beta section as part of the reorganization test. If anyone is interested you can apply at Intel's forums. Also they give a $100 Amazon card if selected and you participate.
     
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    Phoenix might be interested for testing new intel drivers, firmwares etc....
     
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    NO
     
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    Hello guys
    Just received WiFi 9260 installed in my S7-392
    Installed latest driver but windows says wifi capability is turned off .. Any ideas what could it be ?
     
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    It's Acer whitelisting third party cards in the bios (As in those without Acer sub branding). You need to edit the bios to remove the whitelist by searching on Google or buy an Acer sub branded Intel 9260ac card.

    HP, Acer, Lenovo used to white-list cards to prevent third party upgrades though I've heard that practice has fallen out of favor in newer models. Dell is usually the friendliest when it comes to upgrades not voiding warranty and not having whitelists.
     
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    When I installed Killer 1525 it even didn't detected card .. but now it said unknown I installed driver all is ok just wont turn on..
    Ridiculous .. BIOS is imposible to open .. cannot dump it ..
     
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    That is incorrect - Acer have never white-listed anything in BIOS. Not in a single notebook. I have been assigned moderator for Acer forum so it would not get past me if they did. I've also owned quite a few of their notebooks and as such I have to say with near 100% certainty that it's not whiltelisting that is the issue here.
     
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    Thanks, I stand corrected then, I was sure they did with older models but you would know more than me. Guess it’s just the older Lenovo’s and HPs. Samsung, Dell and Asus I know for certain do not at least in the notebooks I’ve owned.
     
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