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    Killer N-1103 or Intel 6300?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by ddesorme, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. ddesorme

    ddesorme Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm planning on getting a sager np9130 in the next few weeks and I was wondering if the price difference between the Bigfoot Networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module and the Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module was worth it. I have a D-link dir-625 (N router) and I plan on doing quite a bit of online gaming both FPS and MMOs. What would you guys suggest?
     
  2. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Get the cheaper one (both are good). Your routers is not any good- basically both cards are better the the router, so unless you plan on upgrading to a proper high end router spending more money on a Wi-Fi card doesn't make sense.
     
  3. HopelesslyFaithful

    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    downloads right they both are good but the killer is better but if you dont have a good router it wont matter
     
  4. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Curious, what would be a good router? Would my WNDR3700 be sufficiently good to notice a difference between these two cards?
     
  5. Burtonjp

    Burtonjp Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm also curious about this comparison. I have the Netgear WNDR3700 Dual 300 MB router so I assume I'll notice a difference. I heard mentions somewhere about the Killer wireless cards being unreliable though? Can anyone confirm that?
     
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    can't answer the unreliable part i just noticed in side talking that its better and a chart. It might give you a difference on that router. I got the same router and it use to be one of the best routers. go to smallnetworkbuilders.com (i think thats the URL) they should have some good reviews to figure it out.
     
  7. Burtonjp

    Burtonjp Notebook Enthusiast

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    I found this review to be pretty good in terms of a side by side performance comparison.
    Tom's Hardware US
     
  8. HopelesslyFaithful

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    killer is made by qualcomm? I thought it was an independent new company...huh
     
  9. thailandgod

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    so which one is better?????
     
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    i would say killer but again get the cheaper one...it really doesn't matter...save yourself the money.
     
  11. Roken911

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    I thought killer was better because of the anti-latency technology.

    I have a cisco modem/router (rogers cable) which is in the basement. I want to be able to game (SWTOR and LoL mostly) without lag, but also not have to worry about range as I'm hardly in the basement.

    I'm so confused when it comes to either of these 2 devices. :(

    Sent from my BlackBerry 9900 using Tapatalk
     
  12. Bofonic

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    If you're router stinks try the Killer 1102.
     
  13. Roken911

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    Well it kind of does. Seeing how I don't get any reception on my MBP or any of my smart phones on the upper floor of my house...
    I guess Killer it is.
     
  14. valion99

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    I'm also looking at the Intel 6300 or the Killer. I'm curious what is considered a 'good quality router'. I have a Asus N16 with the ddwrt custom firmware running on it. Any suggestions what is deemed a good router to go with the Killer?
     
  15. tijo

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    The N16 is a decent router, however since it doesn't do 5GHz or 3 streams, you won't be able to take advantage of the two main features that usually attract people to the 6300 and killer N. You can't go wrong with either of those by the way, both are very capable adapters.
     
  16. H.A.L. 9000

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    Well I'm using 6230 and also used 6200 both card are messing with machine. High latency and cracking audio issue, yet no solution for now many Dell 15z and another Dell machine who having these having trouble. So I will not suggest you, worth trying Killer. As other member also mention you need good router to meet the requirement of the card.
     
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    What about better signal? no need speed I need proper signal in all rooms .. if there are 3 connectors for 3 antenas signal should be much better n ?
     
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    Third antenna would probably improve reception (but not range) if it wasn' so close to the other two.
     
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    yeah for range it needs to have router with three antenas as well
    I have just one :D
     
  21. yoshey791

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    from what iv read it was independent, but was sold to qualcomm recentle.
     
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    It's an Atheros/Qualcomm card and Killer sticker.
    There's no such thing as independent radio-chip producer.
     
  23. tijo

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    Yup, you've only got a few manufacturers including Intel, Atheros/Qualcomm and a few others less know that. I'm pretty sure Realtek and Broadcom make some too. That said, I wonder who makes the Dell wireless adapters. I guess i'll have to look carefully on the one i got at home.
     
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    Dell uses Broadcom as far as I know.
     
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    Yup, Broadcom, my Dell 1504 adapter is a BCM94313HMG2L boradcom card.
     
  26. tyxpx

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    Killer 1103 card is garbage at least in the m18x. I get dropped signals all the time as well as many many many many many many others.... It is fast though! Im actually going to get a 6300 to replace my 1103.....
     
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    I must be lucky because I get clear improvements versus my Intel card in my W860CU versus the Killer one I have in my MSI
     
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    In favor of the killer I assume? From what I have seen on the forum, the killer is faster than the Intel, but the Intel is more solid and consistent, especially across driver releases.
     
  29. WhatsThePoint

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    I haven't tried my Intel 6300 yet in Windows 8 Pro but I can say the Killer 1103 with the 3rd antenna in W8 with the 437 driver is not so good.If I use the Atheros 10.0.0.221 driver the 1103 is a solid performer in Windows 8.

    In Windows 7 x64 with the 395 driver the 1103 was slightly better than the 6300 when I gave them both a workout in my MSI GT780DX.I experienced more lag time connecting to sites with the 6300 but it wasn't a lot.Where I got the most lag connecting with the 6300 was after waking from sleep.

    The wireless card is only one part of the equation.

    The router,router setup,distance from router,channel width,channel,ISP,band,time of day and your systems health has a lot to do with your wireless networking.

    When I test the 1103 / Netgear R6300 or WNDR4500 or WNDR3700v2 with speedtest.net I nomally get a 0 Ping,90Mbps down,70Mbps Up while about 10 meters from my router going through 2 steel reinforced concrete walls on the 5ghz band.The Bigfoot Network Manager shows 450Mbps transmit and receive at 100% strength.

    I can download the 3GB Windows 7 x64 ISO at between 8MB/s and 10MB/s most of the time.

    When downloading TV shows in uTorrent I can max uTorrent out.A 350MB avi takes about 2 minutes.

    My connection strength in inSSIDer is generally in the teens.

    So is it the wireless card alone or a complete properly setup wireless network.

    IMO you can't go wrong with either the Intel 6300 or the Killer 1103 with the 3rd antenna and if you expect something much better changing from one to the other you most likely will be disappointed.
     
  30. tyxpx

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    For me at least this is'nt a quality or speed of connection issue. Everything is fine then BAM ZERO connection! Then I have to reset the card to get it working again. Its not my router ISP or anything else. Wired connection to this computer works perfect. My other devices and the other laptop in the house works 100% ALL THE TIME. This is a card defect whether its software or hardware its the card thats the problem.

    Ive tried different drivers from Dell and Killer and turned off all power saving features. Now on my second card and still issues. Killer has some issues, I just hope they fix it soon.

    BTW you must have that super FIOS package to be getting those speeds, blazing fast there 90up and 70 down....
     
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    I run the Killer 1102 and I must say the range and reception I get while on campus is incredible. It's evident enough to the point where I can see people studying adjacent to me struggling to load pages while I have no problems. However, I remember reading/hearing something about some of the new killer cards having driver problems so take that with a grain of salt.

    As for routers, I'm afraid I don't have much of an input; I'm locked to the Fios router when I'm at home.
     
  32. baii

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    Praise 5Ghz network.
     
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    That's what I've seen, and heard.

    But from my personal experience I feel no difference using the 5300, 6300, 1102 or the 1103. No difference, but the 1102 giving me a better ping :) The 5300 and 6300 peak with their range though.
     
  34. TheHansTheDampf

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    this. 1103 has lots and lots of driver issues. Intel (usually) doesnt.