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    Is this a real thing to do to increase speeds?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by kojack, Dec 31, 2020.

  1. kojack

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    what do you all think of this video.

     
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    For those of us without 8 minutes to watch, what is he actually doing?
     
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    It doesn't hurt to try it depending on how you're setup. I get gbps speeds leaving things at the default 1500 even with the VPN bumping it down from there. Using the command ping website.com -f -l xx he's using though doesn't produce similar results which can be a variety of variables from the AP / "router" / cable modem and so on.

    Usually tinkering with the MTU is only necessary if you're doing PPPoE, VPN, or in a datacenter / 10GE environment (9000 MTU). Typical connections though don't require intervention and are handled efficiently on their own through windowing of packets.
     
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    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    MTU changes can help, however not to the extent that YouTube video is suggesting unless your MTU was super low to begin with.

    Most common MTU's are 1492 1472 and 1500, with the ones using 1508 (Baby Jimbo Frames).



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    I kinda figured it was majorly exaggerated. I need to get a new router and extenders setup. I think the included router in my home 3000 modem is pretty crappy.
     
  6. hacktrix2006

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    What speeds you paying for? As depending on that decides which route you go. Rule of thumb is normally anything over 150Mbps in speed really requires an x86 system for routing more so if it's a 1GB connection.

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    ARM x86 aka 32bit dual/quad core CPUs?
     
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    I have seen a Raspberry Pi 4 with usb Ethernet nice do 1GB routing but only just so a RPi 4 for 150-600Mbps connections should very doable.

    Most Routers are ARM or MIPS CPU's but it's very very rare that Consumer versions have the horse power to do anything over 150Mbps,

    Heck a Linksys WRT32x (WRT3200ACM) with OpenWRT can barely get 400mbps with SQM/AQM off then with SQM/AQM on it brings it down to it knees to around 150Mpbs.

    Reason why I says x86 is because newer CPU's on both sides be it Red or Blue have AES-NI which helps a lot with routing.

    Heck a Intel j1900 or even a j4105 is a slight over kill but great at routing.

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    Any idea which routers have x86_64 based CPUs? I really bought into advertisements that claims to reach 1Gb/s whenever I tried I got 10-20MB/s no matter which device I used, I never really thought AES-NI helped the speed much.
     
  10. hacktrix2006

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    I have yet to see a consumer router have x86-64 CPU's.

    Most people get a 4 Port J1900/J4105/5005 system from the likes of Amazon, then turn their old Router/WiFi in to dummy AP's whilst using PFSense or OpenWRT x86 on the J1900/J4105/5005 hardware.

    AES-NI specially helps with VPN usage.

    A good example is the Intel J1900 has been known to route 8Gbps of traffic with ease.
    However i need to make a correction Intel J1900 doesn't support AES-NI however is still able to route a decent amount of traffic even with VPN's

    Some examples of systems with J1900

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pfsense-Barebone-hardware-router-firewall/dp/B01NBHOFVC


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    The whole x86 argument is beyond what's being asked here so far w/o knowing requirements.

    While we're on the subject though most consumer routers/wifi can hit gigabit speeds. Using a PI vs a pre-packaged router is probably more effort than most would take to get up and running. However on the flip side for those who are network savvy might overbuild a single box solution to provide network connectivity ranging from just a multi port card for switching / routing or adding an internal WIFI card for producing a WAP that's integrated into the same box. If you're looking to reproduce a full function route/switch/AP/FW then you'll need something more robust or doing some tandem PI's to get full performance.

    If you're exceeding 1GE then you'll need to expand into more of a full PC situation to accommodate the hardware and processing performance. Minimum of a mATX board for the PCI slots needed for more than a single card though an ITX w/ a single 4-port card would suffice for redundancy and from there you could get port density with a switch connected to 1-2 of those ports while leaving 2 ports for the WAN side.

    For 1GE speeds on the consumer side any Qualcomm based router will easily hit 1GE.
    - for instance my old Netgear R7800 handled 1GE easily wired or WIFI
     
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