Intel 7265?

Hey guys,

I understand there's a rather large thread devoted to the Intel 7260, but I was wondering if there was any more information on the 7265 rumored to replace the 7260 mini PCIe.
Personally, I'm looking at investing in an AC wireless card, of which the Intel 7260 is the solo contender. Hearing of its connectivity drawbacks though, I am inclined to wait for the 7265.

This is the only information I have come across:
Intel 7265 Product Brief
Intel 7265(n) Product Support

Any new info?

 

According to that PDF, the 7265 will only come in M.2 form factors and will not come in mini PCIe at all.

 

Yea, that was discouraging when I noticed that. Hopefully Intel isn't limiting this revision to today's welded-shut mass produced main stream devices.

 

To be fair, the 7260 product brief doesn't mention the Mini PCI-e form factor either. http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...ct-briefs/wireless-n-7260-bluetooth-brief.pdf
I think that one's a given, and they only advertise the esoteric form factors. If you look at past intel wireless modules in the 6xxx line, the 4th digit simply indicates the revision, not a different product line. For example specs of 6200 vs 6205 are identical except that 6200 was draft-N certified and omitted 802.11b certification for some reason. 6205 was final-N and b certified.

 

But this is different because the revision is listed as fixing a bug.

 

Yes, revisions tend to do that.

 

Calm down ladies

 

The Intel AC-7265 M.2 form factor wireless card will be in some Alienware consoles that are scheduled for release next month.

Amazon.com : Alienware Alpha ASM100-7980 Console (2.9 GHz Intel Core i7-4765T Processor, 8GB DDR3, 2TB HDD, Windows 8 : Computers & Accessories

http://na.alienwarearena.com/forums/thread/76638/hardware-software/alienware-alpha-faq -MO

 

I just ordered an Intel M.2 AC-7265NGW to test out

Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 Series WiFi / 802.11 Modules | Mouser

It's M.2 form factor only so if your notebook uses mini pcie you will need an adapter to use an M.2 card.

http://www.amazon.com/Bplus-M2MP1-N...+M.2+(NGFF)+Key+A+to+mPCIe+(PCIe+USB)+Adapter

M 2 NGFF to Mini PCI E Adapter Support M 2 Socket Ssic Based WWAN Module | eBay

 

Any update on using this card with the adapter? Fits well in small space? Works at all? If so, does it have the same problems with the drivers that the 7620 does? Thanks

 

The AC-7265NGW arrived late yesterday afternoon but the M.2 to PCI-e adapter has not.

Card is dated 33-14

I'll install the AC-7265NGW in an MSI GS60 later today since I don't need the adapter in that model.

I've already done a clean Windows 8.1 x64 installation on a spare SSD that will get WiFi driver 17.13.2.2 and Bluetooth driver 17.1.1440.2

EDIT:
OK,got the new Intel AC-7265NGW installed in a MSI GS60.

This notebook accepts M.2 form factor wireless cards.

I put the notebook in Sleep Mode for 1 hour then for 5 hours and experienced NO problems with connecting immediately after waking.

I haven't done any file transfer tests yet but I susspect they will be similar to the AC-7260NGW that I had major sleep mode issues with.

The first image below shows the AC-7265 next to a Killer N1525

 

Did you use the same driver that had the same issue with 7260?

 

No,I installed the newest WHQL v17.13.2.2 from station-drivers on a clean fresh Windows 8.1 Pro x64 installation.

This driver was not available when I had the AC-7260NGW installed.

The AC-7260NGW that came as stock in my GS60 had issues with all drivers I tried.

EDIT:so far the only issue I'm having with the AC-7265 is with my BT M557 Logitech mouse losing pairing.

 

There's three folders with those drivers from Station-Drivers: Win7, Win8, WinB

What is WinB?

 

I received the M.2 to PCI-e adapter late yesterday afternoon.

It fits well into a 3 year old MSI GT780DX notebook with a M.2 wireless card in it but the antenna wires also need to be changed because the posts on M.2 cards that the antenna wires connect to are smaller on M.2 than those on mini pci-e cards.

I don't have a spare set of antennas that can connect to the M.2 wireless card but will order a set.

Images below is the adapter with a Killer N1525 inserted and the adapter after it is altered to fit.

 

Intel AC-7265NGW for Lenovo

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Hmmm, will this fit my Clevo P150?

 

Your older notebook like my MSI GT780DX uses a mini PCIe wireless card and an M.2 form factor wireless card won't fit.

Also the antenna wires are different.The antenna wire connectors that attach to mini pcie wireless cards are larger U.Fl type while the connectors for M.2 wireless cards are a much smaller MHF4 type.

To put an Intel AC-7265NGW,Intel AC-7260NGW or Killer N1525 in your notebook you would need to put it in a pcie to M.2 adapter and change the antennas.

After doing this your wireless performance in all probability will not be better and there's a good possibility it could be worse.

I've tried the adapter and antenna change in a desktop and notebook and found it to be not worth the effort and expense

If you have a quality 1750 or 1900 AC router then your best option would be a mini pcie Intel AC-7260 if you are going to use the 5ghz band.

If you are going to use the 2.4 ghz band then stick with your present card.

The main advantage of a wireless 802.11ac card on 5ghz is in transferring files across devices on your home network and streaming video somewhat.

 

7265 seems to suffer from same ping spikes and transfer speed throttling like the 7260... doesn't look like they fixed anything.

 

What was the point of the 7265 then? This is so lame.

 

Hi. Did you ever find a solution to this problem?

 

I haven't used the card since about the time I posted that.

I put my Killer N1525 back in after using the AC-7265NGW for about 10 days.

The Killer N1525 performs better for my wireless usage in my MSI GS60 paired with my R7000 router .

 

Thanks for that.

Does the M557 work OK with the Killer card? Also, if your using 2.4G WiFi do you find that connecting the M557 degrades the WiFi throughput.

Currently using a AC7265 in a new Dell laptop. Had loads of trouble initially but after a bit of research I've got it working quite well on 2.4G with U-APSD disabled and NOT using the M557. Using an Asus RT-N56U router.

I've got a Killer card on the way but I'm a bit reluctant to open a brand new laptop until I'm 'comfortable' with it.

Thanks again.

 

I don't use the 2.4ghz band for the PCs and Android tablet I have but I do have the family's smartphones and 2 Samsung wireless laser printers on it for a total of 11 devices connected to my router.

When my MSI GS60 with the Killer N1525 boots up I move the M557 mouse to the right and left quickly and the cursor appears in about a second or two.

I have Killer BT driver 3.0.0.451 installed

802.11ac is a 5ghz only technology so it doesn't make much sense to me to use my Killer N1525 or the Intel AC-7265 on 2.4ghz

 

Cheers. Thanks for the reply & info.

 

Will this card work on the Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro?
They are on sale at M-Factors Storage....

http://www.mfactors.com/7265ngw-int...5-802-11ac-dual-band-2x2-wi-fi-bluetooth-4-0/

 

While an old thread, some relevant information...

Logitech has a known issue with some BT firmware on their mice, and because the issues mentioned above are known to have occurred on several manufacturer's BT cards, it's unlikely Intel's cards are to blame. This doesn't mean the 7260/7265 aren't the cause, however it's unlikely they are.

To provide an example, Logitech's T630, while a phenomenal mouse in every other respect, constantly loses pairing sporadically and for no foreseeable reason, afterwards refusing to connect on channel 1, forcing you to constantly flip flop between repairing on channels 2 & 1. This has plagued that specific model since it's release in 2013, and is still affecting T630s currently in production. Unfortunately, Logitech offers no way to upgrade the firmware on the T630s and other BT. The issue is so widespread, Logitech Tech support is more likely to swap out the mouse for the Anywhere MX2.

This is indicative of a fundamental coding bug within their BT mice firmware that they have yet to identify more than two years after RTM.

 

I'd like to let you all know that I've just found out that there are adapters from (older) U.FL plug to the new MHF4 plug. They are way easier to mount than swapping the whole antennas and they are cheap too. See here: http://www.ebay.it/itm/171873811385

 

logitech also had issues with USB3.0 peripherals causing interference on the 2.4ghz spectrum with mice, although i don't think the issue was limited to Logitech peripherals

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...al-bus/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.html

the PDF is very well made and is quite a good read..if you're into this stuff


The results are shown in Figure 3-3. With the
HDD connected, the noise floor in the 2.4 GHz band is raised by nearly 20 dB. This
could impact wireless device sensitivity significantly.