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    I am going to get mad with Yahoo Mail

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by kenny1999, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. kenny1999

    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    A few days ago I sent an important instruction to my colleague workers with Yahoo email ,
    I was very careful and I remember clearly that I entered his email address as the recipient
    while CC my email as well.

    Today my partner informed me that he did not get my mail and problems happen because of that,
    I was shocked to find that
    it did not send to him. It only CC to my mail.

    I really get mad with Yahoo ! Mail web version. It's really ridiculous. It's like a crappy system when you click, it may not send and it's like the sender has to develop a habit to check every time.

    I always dislike yahoo mail but I just have too many connections and it was the first mail I registered in 2001 and I can't give it up because of too many connections on this mail.

    Can I send and get mail (or at least send) with other interface like Gmail or Hotmail while I keep using the Yahoo Mail as my sender address??

    or any good email clients / applications that I can rely on? Instead of using web version of Yahoo Mail !! I really hate it now
     
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  2. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    If it ended up in your mailbox as CC it had been sent in the first place, so yahoo is not at fault.
    It might have been caught by SPAM filter on the recipient's end though.

    If you need to have a confirmation just send an email with reading confirmation or delivery confirmation - it still won't do a thing unless that person confirms delivery or set it to auto-confirm though, so if they are willing to pretend they never got that e-mail they still might.

    As for e-mail clients - for business I have always used Microsoft Outlook as it is the best mix of features in my opinion. All the emails are stored locally in a PST file as well which gets automatically backed up every day so it adds an extra layer of security for me.

    The only downsides of Outlook are issues with synchronization with Android calendar and contacts without using Google to do this, which I refuse to do.
     
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    t456 1977-09-05, 12:56:00 UTC

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    Had to use Yahoo's web mail a few months ago and yes; awful-awful-awful. Same thing for gmail and outlook though. Have to hack away all the adverts to make them moderately usable, so not much fun in that.

    Their ever-increasing deluge made me switch to an obscure, yet excessively full-featured email client; Becky! Internet Mail. Looks like it was designed in the 90s (it was) and they forgot to update its gui, but no matter, the engine is great. It's accessing three hotmails, two gmails, a yahoo account, two odd ones and my own mail server. Main selling point was that it's portable and can be synced, automating backups to and from a usb stick, which is running the same client plus portable OpenOffice (also browsers+av), making the stick an office-to-go.

    Seems you can only buy the native, Japanese version these days, but the English translation is still downloadable, making it a simple matter of copy/pasting the language files. Not free then, but price is a one-off for a perpetual license including all future updates.

    And yes, it's possible to link accounts to outlook or gmail, but then you're still at the mercy of their respective ghastly, penny-wrenching, customer-pimping execs. There's probably a multitude of good, multi-account, POP3+SMTP+IMAP4 supporting web-based alternatives though, so perhaps you could look into that. Security/privacy is a bit of an issue then, of course.
     
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    Not the best layout, but I've been using Thunderbird lately.

    I've also been considering going to a completely online/cloud email and then using a usb 2FA key.
     
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    https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-access-yahoo-mail-in-gmail-1171916
     
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    In defense of Yahoo Mail, I have been using it on Windows and Android for many years and have never had any of the issues mentioned. Maybe I've been lucky.
     
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    don't push your luck, that's where everything starts to go wrong


    especially with "yahoo" in the subject
     
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  8. kenny1999

    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah, I've switched to Gmail already with Yahoo email address
    However, now the problem- it does not import all mails from Yahoo
    It's like only importing the recent mails.

    I have mails back 10 years long, can they all get imported / transferred / copied to Gmail ?
     
  9. kenny1999

    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    It was 2002. When there was NO gmail and it was like only hotmail and yahoo dominating the market
     
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    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well you can switch now.


    The painful experience of transferring all your contact to a better mail service would be worth the effort.
     
  11. kenny1999

    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    It's just practically impossible to shift to another mail service totally, but sticking to Yahoo address always, but I can use Gmail interface to solve this problem
     
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    Get only old messages
    If you recently switched to Gmail, you can transfer your old emails from your other account.

    1. Open Gmail.
    2. In the top right, click Settings [​IMG][​IMG] Settings.
    3. Click the Accounts and Import or Accounts tab.
    4. In the second section, click Import mail and contacts.
    5. Follow the steps on the screen.
    6. Click Start import.
    To give you time to tell your friends about your new Gmail address, we'll forward messages sent to your other account for 30 days.

    https://support.google.com/mail/answer/21289?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop&hl=en

     
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    I've used Yahoo Mail for probably 15 years. It's not the best interface, but in all that time haven't had an issue. Hard to change email address now.
     
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    slow and lagged interface and full of advertising banners
     
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    I was extremely surprised when I found out the Java developer I live with still uses Yahoo (he has a gmail too) for most of his email.

    At the same time, I get the inertia factor.
     
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    Ublock origin with aak-cont isn't a thing nowadays....

    Or is it?
     
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    ublock origin is your best friend.
     
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  18. kenny1999

    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    Nothing to surprise if he is old enough (i.e. over 30 or 25), at those old times we only had Yahoo mail and now most old connections are still stick to Yahoo. That's why I have pain in my arse always with Yahoo and still, full of junk
     
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    Uhhh, I'm 30. And I've had gmail since it came out in 2004 (hotmail before that).

    But yes, he's in his late 30s, though I know he got gmail as soon as it came out (bought an invite on ebay for $1 I think). I think my surprise was that he hasn't transitioned away from the yahoo account in the past 10+ years.
     
  20. hmscott

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    What is more surprising to me, with the proliferation of free and inexpensive domain hosting, is why more people don't set up their own email server and get out of the "monitoring" loop - Google and Yahoo and other email services scan your email for advertising and junk mail companies glean your email address off those services.

    It's easy to host your own email server, 99% of the people here could set it up and for a small cost have access to your own domain.
     
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    kenny1999 Notebook Evangelist

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    I wanted to transit from Yahoo to Gmail 10 years ago... 10+years ago in fact but when it's connected with all the old connection how can we transit?
    old connection includes the time when there was no facebook or whatsapp and only email and MSN (MSN looks like gone now I don't know). They could be my old teacher, old classmates who are not actively in contact and, some old net friend (still have connection) with only email address and I don't want to get instant message on whatsapp with all those old contacts. A lot of other bank notification is also very importand and makes it hard to change an email address

    And we don't know if we miss anything, while giving up an email address for some years it may get deleted if it's not used and if someone else gets this address again , its' like I'll be exposed to some possible risks or hacks isn't it???

    At least I now only shift to gmail interface but I am still using my Yahoo address
     
  22. bennni

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    I did explore this avenue however I eventually paid for a hosted email server that I linked to my domain name. I did initially try it with a Rasberry Pi for a project and got a server set up without a huge drama. I then went with a secure email service that had good reviews and haven't really looked back since. When factoring in energy cost for the server and my time spent maintaining it, the choice was easy. I'll grant that setting up an email server was fun and educational though.
     
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    Cool :)

    It does take some tinkering to keep things going, especially staying in front of the constantly changing security / patches, procedures for secure email hosting are well known but add another level of complexity (fun!!), and the same goes for SPAM filtering.

    The real advantages start multiplying when you want to do more things, hosting other services, web services of course, and game servers, and especially development tools and UNIX shell access - Yeah, I still call it UNIX :)

    Being closer to the internet fast access is a big advantage too when doing UNIX development. Large images download quicker of course, but it also gives you another way in to the internet besides where you are physically sitting. Having multiple internet path access lets you debug things better with a wider view.

    Physical access through colo can also be fun, it used to be the only best way before VM's were so cheap and plentiful, and it's still "the best" if you want hardware access flexibility.

    Getting a secure email service that doesn't have any vested interest in peeking at your email is a big step up from gmail / yahoo / hotmail / etc :)
     
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    Actually....... it’s not easy to host your own email server, and combined with the general “let someone else do it” mindset, most people won’t be using their own email servers anytime soon.

    Nevermind that there isnt really a turn-Key email server that exists, there are a myriad of ways to screw up an email server that will at best kill your dreams of self-hosting and at worst land you in legal trouble. One example of what can go wrong is that a misconfiguration can make your server an open relay (read: spam server), thus quickly blacklisting your domain.

    Certainly possible to successfully self-host your own email, but it’s a major PITA to do right.
     
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    Set up forwarding from your old address.

    https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN22028.html
     
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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    Same here. Google's toll on privacy is too high, even for convenience it provides.
     
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