How to connect desktop and laptop to internet at same time?

Ok, my desktop is directly connected to the internet wired through a router. Now, my laptop is connected directly by the same router but wireless. How can i set it so that i can use the internet simotaniously. btw my laptop is vista, my desktop is xp.

 

Use your left hand to operate the desktop's keyboard and the right hand to operate the laptop's keyboard, it should work.

 

lol very funny

 

I know, that's why the call me monkeymod, but seriously, what is exactly you are looking to do? If both computers are connected to the router, they will share the bandwidth, are you trying to devide the bandwidth?

 

well, i kind of know how to connect the network (only experience with xbox 360) so both computers connect to the dsl at the same time, but i don't want to depend on desktop's connection. if it's not conected, i want to be able for my laptop to connect to my dsl, and vice versa. and if they are both connected, how can i keep the same bandwidth? isnt that what the router does?

 

That's right, the router will deal with the connection of both computers, I don't see why the desktop will affect the laptop connection? The router will manage the connections and if somehow the desktop stop working, it won't affect the laptop connectivity.

I think I'm missing something, please tell me what, thanks.

 

well, its just when i've connected my laptop to the internet, as an admin basically, i cant connect to the same connection on my desktop, which is an admin account as well, would that matter?

 

Monkey man here is saying, "You have a solution to a problem that does not exist."

Since your laptop connects to the internet through your router, it matters not the status of your laptop. You could be playing the drum on the keyboard of your desktop and your laptop could still get internet. You could have your desktop upside down and your laptop will still get internet. In fact, you could suspend your desktop off of a walnut tree with a baby on a highstool and a red corvette parked under the tree with a bird poopin on it and your laptop will STILL get internet.

 

That's classic

 

well ya i know that. its not a matter of it not connected when its wireless. its a matter of my desktop connected through its wired connection on the same dsl while im hooked up wireless on my laptop, like right now. since im connected now (on my laptop) i cant connect to the internet on my pc. why is this happening? even when i have file sharing and stuff enabled, and even transfering files from my desktop to my laptop now.

 

First you should see if your desktop is getting an IP address from your router. You can just hit diagnose under network connections / local area connection/ properties.

If it is not getting an IP address, make sure you can ping the router.

This is an odd problem and I'm gonna initially blame your router til we can fix this.

 

i dont have diagnose on my desktop, its xp, where would i go instead?

 

from the laptop press the start button and R, then type ipconfig, what do you see?

 

ipv4 adress - 216.-------- (wanna keep this private)
subnet - 255.255.255.255
deafult gateway - 0.0.0.0

lan adapter:
ipv4 address - 192.168.1.101
subnet - 255.255.255.0
default gateway - 192.168.1.1

 

Why is the laptop getting an address other than from the router?
The idea behind the router is that the modem assigns the router that one particular ip address, then the router assigns your computers (whether wirelessly or otherwise) an ip address (usually 192.168.0.xxx) and all computers connected to the router (presume not banned) will be able to access the internet...

That's why this thread seemed strange

 

I agree, this is really strange, sometimes you wonder what people are trying to do and who you are really helping.

 

The first one is your desktop, right?

 

thats all from my laptop the PPP adapter DSL, and the lan adapter

 

Here's a diagram of how it should look

[Edit]
Make sure you set it up properly though because you never know when the next image may occur

 

It seems that your laptop is connected with ethernet only, on other words the wireless connection is not working. That's why the default gateway is zero and you don't see the router IP address.

The second data shows that your laptop is getting internet over ethernet, though.

Try to do the ipconfig on your desktop now.

 

Is the laptop set with DHCP enabled? In fact, is DHCP enabled on your system at all? The second set of data, for the "LAN adapter," shows an IP Address of 192.168.1.101, which suggests either (i) you've changed the defaults so the router is assigning IPs from a range of 99 numbers that includes 101, or (ii) that second interface - the "LAN adapter" - has a static IP address that isn't being issued by the router through it's onboard DHCP server.

Also, I'm a little confused about the ipconfig data you posted - is that just from your laptop, with the first set of data belonging to the wireless interface, and the second set belonging to the wired interface, or is the top for the laptop and the second for the desktop?

 

ipconfig on my desktop, ya about that. there are no IP adresses except 192.168.1.100, 255.255.255.0, and three 192.168.1.1's for dns and such under the ethernet adapter. what did i do wrong??

and to shyster, that is all from my laptop.

 

I asked the same question, it would seem that he did the ipconfig from the laptop, so the first data would be the wireless connection and the second data is the ethernet connection.

 

ya u got it, sorry not specifiing, my bad, but ya the first set was the wireless IP connection, the second set was the ethernet/lan.

 

Did you ipconfig the desktop?

 

Ok. So I'm guessing that when you did that, you had the laptop connected to the router by wire - correct? If so, is the ethernet card set with DHCP enabled, or do you have a static IP address set instead?

Also, it would appear to be the case that your wireless cannot gain access to the router (duh, to restate the obvious), so, do you have MAC filtering enabled on the router - and haven't added the laptop wireless interface MAC address to the list of permitted MACs, or have you enabled security (i.e. WEP or WPA) and not set up security on the laptop?

 

MAC, WEP, MAC, DHCP, MAC, WPA, LAN,..........I'm tire, I'm going to bed, g'night Shister1.

 

Buenas noches (I'll be up for a while yet - 3 y.o. is under the weather ).

 

No, it was wireless, all my laptop connections are wireless. MAC filtering? No, plus no security at all, my LAN is unsecured right now. Just wanted a bulldozer method to get the internet at first, but right now I want to deal with this problem and enable security to boot, plus connecting my desktop. btw, when i close my internet connection with my laptop, i can access the net on my desktop.

 

Have you enable DHCP in the router?

 

Yes, DHCP is enabled.

 

Did you do the ipconfig from the desktop as I requested earlier?

 

Ummm, I was just looking back at your partial listing from ipconfig, and I've got a question - I assume (now) that the first three lines are the IPv4 address, subnet mask, and default gateway assigned to you by your ISP?

Also, why is the first subnet mask 255.255.255.255? That effectively makes it impossible to differentiate between any node on the relevant network (your ISP or your LAN). That could be the source of your problem since it could make it impossible to have more than one node on the subnet to which the subnet mask applies. Try changing it to 255.255.255.0

 

ya, this is a picture, which is easier. this is my xp desktop.



now heres my laptop ipconfig

 

Hi Neo, when you did the ipconfig for the desktop, did it have internet?

 

Ahh, pppoe. It looks like your router is not handing out dhcps but rather just letting computers directly connect to the internet, much like a ADSL modem. This is why your laptop shows a PPP adapter and why desktop cannot connect to the internet.

Edit: What kind of router is it? Is it a modem/router combo?

 

Following your line of thoughts, if the ADSL uses PPPoE, then the PPPoE needs an special software to setup the connection properly, and if he has two ethernet adapters, then the gateway must not be setup (which is the case 0.0.0.0) but he should not have DNS neither, which I can see, the 216........

 

Exactly. If his laptop is using pppoe to connect to the internet, then it would seem the "router" is just bridging the laptop to the internet. What needs to happen is his "router" needs to be promoted to a router, or technically a DHCP server. That way, more than one computer can connect to the internet.

 

Now, here is my concern, and correct me if I'm wrong, PPPoE combines a PPP dialup with Ethernet, so one computer with dialup works over ethernet plus the second computer using an ethernet connection, but why is the laptop using PPPoE? If the laptop is connected using ethernet and PPPoE, then there is no space for the other computer, he should just disable the PPPoE.

 

PPPoe is how the ADSL modem connects to the ISP. So you can't disable it. And it technically only allows one computer to connect. Normally, DSL modems are PPPoe to the ISP. The modem then has a ethernet port which a router is connected to it. A laptop would then ask the DHCP software on the router for an IP address and that's how a laptop would connect to the internet through a PPPoe.

Now some DSL modems are a modem/router combo. They usually look like routers with antenaes and two to four ports. Linksys makes a model. Your ISP normally has a list of recommended models you can buy. That is if you ISP allows you the option of renting a modem from them or buying your own. I hope that all made sense.

Because his laptop is using PPPoe to connect to the internet, that is why I believe his "router" is really just a ADSL modem. What he can do is buy a router, or use internet connection sharing.

 

As I understand it, it can connect two computers, one using PPP and another one using ethernet. That's the whole thing with PPPoE, is to be able to get two computers connected at the same time.

I think the laptop is using 2 ways to connect (even 3 ways with WiFi), PPP and ethernet, so two adapters in one, so that's why he can't connect the other PC, when he disconnect the laptop the PC get internet.

Anyway, I'm tire now, I'll double check this tomorrow, I think if you have a router after the modem then you don't need the PPPoE, plus why would he like to use PPP in his laptop when he has ethenet and WiFi?

 

PPPoe only connects one computer (Point to Point Protocol). It requires a router to connect more than one computer. It basically allows your computer to communicate with the ADSL modem and then to the ISP. Technically, a computer cannot connect through a DSL using Ethernet. Hence the invention of PPPoe.

The fact that both computer are able to use the internet, but not at the same time blatantly points the problem at the router/modem/whatever he has. It just sounds like he needs a router, or setup the modem into a router connection mode. This was so common back in the day, but I didn't think anyone had modem/router combo boxes anymore.

Exactly what I was thinking. It is best that he either looks up the model of the modem he has so we can check the specs or ask his ISP to remote manage his box so it acts like a router instead of a gateway.

 

Thank you surfasb, I was really tire yesterday nigh, sorry. It would seems that he does have an external router, though.

 

Ok, let's try this, enable the ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in your XP so you can share the internet connection with another computer, please follow the guide in the link below, I'm assuming at this point that you have windows XP.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126

 

I would first try to find out if the router is setup correctly.

 

I agree, the router setup is paramount, then the client's adapters settings.

 

I wonder if the guy got it to work??

 

I hope so, I only wonder if DSL services still uses PPPoE, one reason I heard is because being already equipped with the old PPP infrastructure (so don't want to spend money in new system) and also some inherent better security, they do it this way, PPP over ethernet. But this is a session based protocol, not always connected, so I don't know why people would accept this.

 

Hey guys, im back. and no I didn't. I crashed my desktop i did a full reinstall with XP Pro, still same problem. but my top priority right now is trying to establish a file sharing network between a wireless vista connection and my xp. i did it with success b4 the crash but that was luck. btw, my workgroup is the same and my file sharing is turned on. i'll focus on the internet connection later (btw, i have a PPPoE connection for my laptop and my desktop, that a prob?)

 

Did you set up the ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) in your XP so you can share the internet connection with another computer?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126