How can you tell if you really cant do bittorrent?

is there an easy way to tell? any sign that says "STOP TRYING"?
basically i always get "Tracker Down" w/c results in BYTES/sec speeds

then occassionally, i get yellow, NAT Error w/c results in 1kbps..

never got a green. still trying to look for ways. im getting tired

so i just want to know if there is a way to find out if its quitting time )

 

If the tracker is down, theres nothing you can do, the tracker is....well...down.

As for the NAT error, it's probrably an TCP issue, a port issue most likely.

 

yeah but how can you tell if the problem is that the tracker is really down, or you are just unreachable?? i think its a router problem, maybe my provider blocked some ports..

i connect my laptop to a lan cable sticking out of a hole in the wall so i cant check further...

 

so any real way to tell that bittorrent is impossible from my setup? or should i still keep looking_?

 

What bittorrent client are you using? Are you using a router?

I'm using Azureus and I found this useful:

http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/PortForwarding

 

hehe problem is, i have no access to the router.
as i said, i just plug my notebook to a lan cable sticking out of my apartment wall. it was already there before i moved in.

im using azureus. yeah already read that one and a few others.
i still dont know if the service provider intentionally blocked it.

 

i am also able to use the software called "hamachi"

www.hamachi.cc

it basically allows computers from different parts of the world to see each other as if they were in the same local area network (LAN). i have been able to play warcraft with 9 other people with little lag.

that is why i still believe that i will be able to do bittorrent

 

Well, I guess there's not really anything you can do to get a better connection. Try DLing the "AutoSpeed" plugin it can throttle the bandwith and help you get the best out of what you have...

 

First of all, get yourself uTorrent client (is small, around 100kb, yes, 100kb) it has lots of options and doesn't use lots of resources (8 Mb max).

When you will get and install it, I will tell you how to setup your router and choose different ports for torrent client. And you'll be able to share in no time.

Regards, VidKo

 

µtorrent is good bittorrent client. It's nice and small and certainly one of my favorites, I keep it on my keydrive. It used to be my main bittorrent client but one of the builds got buggy on me so I had to switch back to Azureus. But, I still keep both.

BTW Vidko, he said he has no access to the router.

 

Oh, didn't see that. That's a problem then. Anyway, try setting different ports, not the default ones in you torrent client.

Regards, VidKo

 

hey thanks for the uTorrent tip!

port still blocked though
but getting 3kbps whoohoo!! (

is that a normal speed if im downloading for the first time?
what else can i do?

 

Do an online port test to see which of your ports are blocked. Then set your torrent client to random ports or one of the ports that are open.

My torrent port is 49501. Try testing port range from 40000-50000 and if one of these ports is open, set in your torrent client.

When you start downloading you have to wait 5 to 15 minutes to get full download speed. It also helps a lot if you are downloading a file that has lots of sources. Try it with one of the widespreaded Linux distributions

Regards, VidKo

 

Wow, not a smart thing to do.. That's like using a credit card on an unprotected wireless connection. If you don't own the switch/hub/router and you don't know that it is in the hands of somebody trusted than you darn well better not use it.. By tapping into the connection between the end user and the Internet, It is trivial to collect passwords to things such as AOL IM, and forums (such as this one) which don't use encryption for authentication. If that cable plugs into a hub, then anybody on the hub will be able to see all packets sent and received by each computer plugged into the hub. So, they'd be able to view anything you browse or download and vice-versa

 

hehe dont worry its a new apartment the internet is provided by the apartment's isp same as everyone in the building

online port checking says stealth

 

You'll get better speeds using Azureus and the AutoSpeed Plugin; like I said before.

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_details.php?plugin=autospeed

I'm not trying to sell you on a bittorrent client but I thought you were looking for faster DL speeds?!? You can also port test in Azureus under using the NAT/Firewall test under Tools...

 

Bittorrent varys...

The speeds are either going to be kind of good, or take 2 hours to download a 1MB files.

I hope your downloading "Legal" stuff...

 

Azureus gave me high CPU/memory usage and instability (Java based). For more info on torrent clients and filesharing I suggest visiting slyck.com.

I have 3 Mbit / 0.5 Mbit cable, which means my download speed it theoreticaly 375 kb/s. With uTorrent I have constant speeds of 340-355 kb/s. I doubt Azureus could top that.

Sikidhart can you contact your buildings systemadmin and ask him to open some ports for you?

Regards, VidKo

 

right...

Why do you keep trying to sell µtorrent (microtorrent)? It's good but it's not the end all torrent client. Maybe you should try using µtorrent with a less than perfect internet connection and see if you can get a decent dl speed.

 

I used to be a huge fan of Azureus - wouldn't use anything else. However, I made the switch to uTorrent about two months ago. He's probably "selling" uTorrent because you can get comparable speeds with nowhere NEAR the performance hit of Azureus. With two or three torrents open in Azureus, my old lappy (an HP with only 512 MB of RAM) would start to grind to a halt. With uTorrent, I could still game on it! On both of my connections (an excellent home connection and a crappy school connection), uTorrent and Azureus give roughly the same speeds (it also depends on the torrent, of course). Plus, uTorrent looks like it went to great lengths to slightly mimick the Azureus interface, making a switch really easy. For my needs (and apparently VidKo's as well), uTorrent is the way to go.

 

WarlordOne read the above post. Ala answered like I would. Only his english is better than mine.

Regards, VidKo

 

Hmmm...should I switch from bittornado when i start using my lappy for everything?

 

You don't have to

 

So, it won't grind my lappy to a halt like Azureus?

 

Nope.

Regards, VidKo

 

Alas, this is a sort of tricky question. On newer laptops with a gig or more of ram, Azureus will barely dent the system. I found over my time using Azureus that it also depends on the Java client version - if a new version of Java was released in between Azureus versions, there would often be compatibility issues (I believe this only happened once or twice).

I am using uTorrent right now, though, and it's using just shy of 9 MB of memory and practically no CPU power. It's ideal for multitasking for this reason, but if you don't plan on gaming/rendering anything while downloading, Azureus is also a good bet.

 

a neighbor said that bittorrent was blocked.

though i am able to get 3kbps... does this mean that it is not completely blocked? is there a way around this?

 

Sikidhart try this:

Go to Ubuntu download page and choose the second file (ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent).
If you won't get more than 3kb/s, your ports are really blocked. Then there is no way around it.

You can file an official complaint that you are using bittorrent only for legal downloads and they should open the ports for you. It is worth a try.

Regards, VidKo

 

I don't see how you're going to have any right to complain about not being able to d/l torrent files on an internet connection you're not paying for. I guess if you really want a decent connection you'll have to pay for it.

 

Well, just because he's not (directly) paying for the internet doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be able to download whatever he wants legally. You can bet that his internet is built into his rent, for one thing, so he's most certainly paying for it. Also, if he's only downloading legal things (such as Linux distros, game demos, etc), he should have access to whatever he wants.

Now, if he's illegally downloading games, music, and the like, he'll certainly have no grounds to complain and would be wise to not say anything at all.

 

No, I can't assume that. If it were then he shouldn't be asking us for help but rather his ISP.

But I agree that if he were paying for it he should be able to do whatever he wanted.

 

Well, there's also no such thing as a free lunch. If the cost of his internet is built into his apartment rent (which, since the landlord has to supply the internet, I would be willing to bet money that it is) and it just came with a LAN cable sticking out of the wall, he probably doesn't even know who his ISP is. Remember, there doesn't have to be a specific charge on his bill every month for internet; rather, if his internet-less apartment would normally be $650 a month, the internet version is $680 a month. It's a cost you don't "see", but it's most certainly present. If you're getting problem-free internet, would you even think to inquire as to who the service provider for your apartment complex is? Probably not. But if you're having port problems, you may want to check into such things. Such is the life of living with mass-supplied things such as complex-wide internet, though.

 

Yes the internet is built into my rent.
the client of the company im working for is paying for my rent.

i am not in my home country, and thus not fluent in the language here. that is the reason why i am asking questions in an english forum.

im asking because i want to know if it would be really necessary for me to subscribe to another isp.

i also believe that my question (and your answers) would be helpful to those who do not know how to configure a router and stuff.

 

You can ask the landlord if the router is actually in the building. It shouldn't be hard to open the required ports then.

Regards, VidKo