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    Home Nerworking problem

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by programmer, Oct 22, 2005.

  1. programmer

    programmer Notebook Guru

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    i wnat to create network between my laptop and my desktop
    using network card
    i configured the connection like the following
    PC:
    Ip Address :111.0.0.5
    subntmask :255.0.0.0
    Defaultgetway:10.0.0.11

    Laptop
    Ip Address :111.0.0.6
    subntmask :255.0.0.0
    Defaultgetway:111.0.0.5

    but it didn't work when i ping any one from another it give me rwquest time out
    i make firewall disable
    the strange thing that when i use this configuration with another pc it work put with my pc it never work
    and also my PC work in another small lan correctly
    if you can help me because i want to get data between the two computer
    Thanks in advance
     
  2. nickspohn

    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Can you even get the internet on both machines like that?
     
  3. programmer

    programmer Notebook Guru

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    yes i have DSL connection when i put the cable in any one of them after adjust the IPs to work with the lan it have internet access
    thanks
     
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    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Wow, i have never heard of those ip addresses. They really should be 192.168.1.101 and 192.168.1.102
     
  5. programmer

    programmer Notebook Guru

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    May be some magic in it but believe it or not this the case
    please if you have good things to say tell me about it or if my question didn't like you its easy to ignore it i haven't any reason to give you incorrect information i need to solve my problem not to hear WOW
     
  6. ru1thirst

    ru1thirst Notebook Consultant

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    That's a good way to get people to jump right in and help you. I'll have to remember this approach and see how it works.
     
  7. BVD

    BVD Notebook Geek

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    WOW

    first message post from my laptop!
     
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    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    How about getting a router. You can get one for like $10. Then you don have to mess around with the IP setting cause the router will assign them.
     
  9. dr_st

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    Assuming XP, Run the network setup wizard and follow its instructions. Your IP addresses are all screwed up.
     
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    drumfu super modfu

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    is this a direct connection or are you going thru a router?

    please provide info for LAN configuration.
     
  11. programmer

    programmer Notebook Guru

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    thanks drumfu
    yes this direct connection between my laptop and my pc this configruation works with my laptop and other pc i don't have router o test the wire also and it is work
    my pc is member of another lan but when i connect it to my pc
    i unplugged the cable and adjust the ips like what i said before
    but each one don't see the other except one time and they saw each other and never get back

    ru1thirst
    yes you can use this approach when you have problem and other just kidding and say wow
     
  12. nickspohn

    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Are you still on the word Wow? Man, grow up please. 4 posts in a wireless thread discussing the word wow.
    How are you connecting to the other computer?
    If you want to access and see the other computers on our network you can use what is called a "Crossover Cable". Looks exactly like an ethernet cable but is different. That is just one example but tell me what you are using right now.
    When networking, ou should have your ip address at 192.168.1.101 at the first computer and the second computer at 192.168.1.102.
    What is your setup to get to the internet also, Like modem>router>computer?
    Tell us an additional info on how your setup is now.
    Like said before, it is a good idea to try the Windows XP networking setup.
     
  13. programmer

    programmer Notebook Guru

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    I use Crossover Cable and i test the cable with other Pc and it work but not working with my pc

    return to IP address as i told you before i use the Ips that i have been written
    i dont use some thing like 192.168.1.101 and 192.168.1.102 i use something like 111.0.0.4 and 111.0.0.5 and again it was working with my laptop and another PC

    i connect my pc to internet through DSL connection my Pc have connected to switch and the switch connected to other switch which is connected to the router
    when i try to make my home networking my internect cable is unplugged and i use the crossover cable bettwen the laptop and pc another thing i want to do after i setup my home networking is making bridge connection to make my laptop have access to internet through my pc a will another Network card of course but now all i want to do is connect the two computers each other and if i change my ips like what you said
    my pc will not conneted to the internet when i pluged the Lan cable so ineed to change the ip because all the computer in the lan have ip like 111.0.0.1,111.0.0.2...
    i will try networking setup?
    final word Man Grow up please
     
  14. nickspohn

    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Boy, you had to make it 6 posts now didnt you. Its being childish...
    Since you said you have a laptop. What i would do is have 1 wireless router. That way, your laptop can be wireless (you will need a wireless card if you dont have one). The lappy can be wireless, and usually on routers now, there are 4 ethernet ports. What ou would do is hook up your modem the same way. Then have that ethernet cable plugged into the internet port on the router. One ethernet cord from the router to the computer. And the next computer the same way. Its as simple as that basically. Your laptop, and 2 desktops can all be on our network without unplugging things and so on.
     
  15. Venombite

    Venombite Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ok guys, enough with the comments. You wanna continue with the childish comments, take it to the Off Topic section! This is the last post regarding anymore comments not relating to the actual problem in this thread.

    Programmer,
    1st off, you gotta be a bit more tactful when asking for help. If the comment wasn't helpful, ignore it.

    Now, back to the problem.

    For everyone this didn't already know this, the IP address range used here (111.xxx.xxx.xxx) is a public IP address range, so there's nothing wrong with the addresses. This address is fully routable on the internet (pingable from the web), unlike the 10, 172 & 192 private IP ranges which are not routable (can't ping from the web).

    From what I can see, the reason why you can't ping the computer is because your Default Gateway information is wrong on your PC. You need to change your Desktop's Gateway address to 111.0.0.6. The reason you need to do this is because you need to tell your desktop how to get to your notebook.

    Example:
    Desktop wants to ping the Laptop, therefore you need to tell the desktop what address/card to use when doing the ping (Laptops network card/ip). This way, it has a direct route to your notebook. You would then use the desktop's IP for your notebook's Gateway address. Now, when you do a ping, it will know that, to get to your desktop, it must use the desktops IP address and to get to the notebook, it will use the notebook's address.

    So currently, by using the 10.0.0.11 address in your Desktop's Gateway address, it's not going to find any systems with that address, therefore it's not going to know where to go.

    So make that change to your desktop's gateway address and it should allow you to ping each other in both directions.

    -Vb-

     
  16. dr_st

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    That IS the problem. Imagine I gave one of the comps on my network the IP 216.68.63.93 (which, incidentally, is the IP of Notebookreview.com), and then I'd try to connect to that.

    When using a LAN behind a router, the IPs assigned to the PCs should be in the private IP range. The problem is that from his posts I still don't understand whether he has one or not.

    Beautiful. And then you'll have a laptop that only knows how to access the desktop and a desktop that only knows how to access the laptop, and none of which can access the outside world.

    When sharing internet through a router, all PCs should have a private IP (with the appropriate subnet mask) and the router's IP as their gateway.

    When sharing internet through one of the PCs on the network, which is connected directly to the DSL/cable modem, that PC should have the provider's IP as the default gateway, and all other PCs on the network should have that main PC as their gateway.

    Why I suggest running the network setup wizard, is because it takes care of all that by itself, when you explain your hardware setup to it.
     
  17. Venombite

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    This is only if you're duplicating the an external IP address as this is not the case. Yes, an external IP address is used in both the work and home environments, but when at home, a crossover cable is used and therefore not connected to the web as indicated by Programmer in his previous post.

    In this setup ANY IP range is usable.

    Again from Programmer's previous post, he does not use a router at home. Currently, he's just rying to connect from his notebook to desktop via CrossOver cables. At a later time, he will attempt to connect using an additional card via Internet Connection Sharing.

    From what you said below, yes, you would normally have to connected with a valid IP range, but not when the cable is pulled and swapped with a crossover cable to get a direct connection to your other unit.

    -Vb-
     
  18. dr_st

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    You seem to be right, cause apparently I haven't quite understood his current setup. He mentioned something about a router, but probably it's irrelevant to the problem at hand.

    Anyway, under this setup all you need to do for it to work (at least in theory) is to allocate IP addresses in the same range and set the appropriate subnet mask. The default gateway can be left blank.
     
  19. programmer

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    Thanks for everybody tried to help
    but no one of suggested solution was worked
    what is the possibility of hardware problem? because as i said before this configuration was worked with more than one pc but not mine but my Pc is member of other lan and it work correctly
    one thing may help when i changed the pc card slot it worked corretly for some time and when tried to create bridge connection every thing go back and the two never connected together again
    thanks in advance
     
  20. Venombite

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    Programmer,

    One thing you may want to do is NOT bridging the connections. This is not needed is this setup. You only need to bridge the connections when you have to network cards and each network card is connected to a different network. By bridging them, it'll generally connect both networks together (at least that's my understanding).

    -Vb-
     
  21. programmer

    programmer Notebook Guru

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    thanks Venombite
    you are right i need two nework cards and that i will do
    but at first i need to create home networking and latter make bridge connection with two network cards in my pc