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    Have wired, want to add wireless!

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by jubbing, Mar 18, 2010.

  1. jubbing

    jubbing Notebook Deity

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    Hi guys,

    I currently have a Netgear DG 834 V3 wired router. I'm wanting to add on a support wireless router, so I can have both at the same time. I'm looking at getting a new Netgear wireless Router, but I have no idea what to get. Basically if there's a way to connect a wireless router to a wired router, then I would like to know how, and which is the best one to get for my situation (those black new ones look sexy).

    If you guys could help, that would be awesome!

    cheers,
    Jubbing
     
  2. Joel

    Joel coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee

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    The Netgear DG834V3 is a modem router, so just to make things a lot less complicated, buy a Wireless Modem Router.
     
  3. jubbing

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    Sure.. but whats good.
     
  4. Joel

    Joel coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee

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    Depends on your price range... What are you willing to pay?
     
  5. jubbing

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    Mate.. I'd say A$250-300.. if need be. $300 tops of course. Really I'm not sure If I even want to pay that much.. but I will pay if need be. Based of recommendations.
     
  6. Joel

    Joel coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee

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    Ok, I can say you can get 'em alot cheaper then that!
    I was looking at this Netgear one this D-Link. However, if you don't wish to buy online, have you got an Officeworks around?

    EDIT: Found this on eBay, if you are willing to buy, out of the lot, this one is probably better, allows N, if your laptop has N?
     
  7. jubbing

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    Not sure how to check if I have 'N' :S
    I like that one of ebay. I don't like D-Link's ugly box.
    I'm looking at the one's that look like this
    I don't know about the whole gaming thing.. but there are those that are cheaper that look like it. This is one area I know very little about unfortunately, not nothing.. but little.
     
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    Joel coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee

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    Yeah, I'm no expert in this area either, but I try :) The one you linked to, I think is more for HD Streaming/PS3/Xbox/Gaming etc. So that accounts for the 5GHz. I agree about the D-Link comment you made, they are horrible! Reviews are good for the N1, however, some complain of interference issues with Cordless Phones. I don't know, though, it looks really nice. I think your M15x does have N, so that would add extra speed to your connection.
     
  9. jubbing

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    Yea possibly, but there are other laptops being used in this house by others that might not have N. If there's a way to check I would. But just to be on the safe side you know.
    Then we have something like this
    or something like this
    Really appreciate your help mate.
     
  10. Joel

    Joel coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee

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    If you buy N, any laptop, either A/B/G/N can use an N Wireless Device, however, you can't, as far as I know, use N if there are others on the same Device.

    The one's you are picking out are Routers, that is fine, however, you will need to use your Modem as well, so you just connect an Ethernet cord to one of the Ports in your Modem, then plug it into the WAN port of your Router. The one's I picked out are Wireless Router and Modem built-in.
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Hi there.
    I wouldn't replace the modem/router you have for two reasons.
    The first one is flexibility- you have a modem now and you may add a Wi-Fi capable router (which is cheaper anyway) but if you for some reason choose that you need onlythe router- you still can use it that way. By that I mean if you i.e. decide to change ISP and end up with cable modem you can plug in your router and use Wi-Fi anyway.
    Second reason is firmware support. You already know your modem works well so there is no need to replace it. There is basically no 3rd party firmware for ADSL devices and since there are more problems with Wi-Fi than ADSL it would be better and cheaper to buy a good router with DD-WRT, OpenWRT etc. support that enables you to i.e. increase radio power transmit in case you need more, can be tweaked for P2P or VoIP use etc.
    So separate devices would be more flexible and would give you better firmware support for the Wi-Fi router.

    In general separate devices are better but more expensive. That doesn't concern you because you already own a modem and it works fine, so in your case buying a Wi-Fi router is not only better nut also cheaper and gives you greater choice of devices and firmware support.
     
  12. jubbing

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    Well I'm a little confused now lol :(
     
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    I guess you are ;)
    My recommendation is- decide if you need "N" speeds or not (most likely not).
    Than you would be left with the broad choice of a routers with good hardware and additional features (like USB ports that can be used to connect a printer or a USB drive that can be accessible for people from within your network)
    A router is a very specific computer and as with any computer there are two things to its performance and reliability- hardware and software.

    As for software I would strongly recommend you go for a router that can be used with 3rd party firmware instead of the stock one- it not only has additional functionality (that you may or may not need) but also often solves problems that persist with default firmwares. So it's not only "more" it is also "better"

    As for hardware- apart from USB that may or may not be present and may or may not have certain functionality (print server is not available on all routers with USB) there is also CPU and RAM/Flash you should mind.
    There are better routers with more RAM and more powerful CPUs and slower routers with cheaper components.

    Take a look at Asus WRT500g Premium. That is a good router with some interesting functions and an example of what I would recommend.
    If you like it- we're one the same page. If you don't we can think of sth less powerful and cheaper.
     
  14. jubbing

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    Can You link me to the Asus one? I can't seem to find it!
    meanwhile someone else recommended the Netgear WNR2000 to me. Thoughts?
     
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    No wonder you can't- I misspelled the name. Should read WL-500G Premium

    EDIT:
    Netgear WNR2000 review. I'm not impressed. If you want to buy "N" router don't go for entry-level one.
     
  16. blue68f100

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    I would add a second wireless router setup as a AP. I have 2 wireless routers hanging off my FVS338 setup as AP. This give you more flexabality and performance gain. It allows you place the AP/router in a location that will give you the best performance without all of the wires hanging from it. What ever you decide on 11n/g the setup is easy. You basic setup is that you disable DHCP on the LAN ports, set the router to a STATIC IP outside of your router DHCP range. Then connect lan to lan. The log into the AP/router and setup the wireless security (WPA2) and SSID. Then your good to go.
     
  17. jubbing

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    Other names I've come across -
    -Netgear WNDR3700
    -Netgear WGR-614
    -Belkin N1
    -D-Link DIR-855
    -Linksys WRT160N
    -Netgear WNCE2001
    The WL-500G Premium seems nice.. it has potential of course. Is that the same thing as conecting that to my Netgear router, and voila wireless is alive?
    And what thoughts on those routers I dug up?
     
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    It's connecting it just like blue68f100 described and thatÂ’s about it.
    As for these routes you mixed classes here.
    WRT160N is a decent one and DD-WRT supported
    WNDR3700 is considered a very good router (no 3rd party firmware though)
    WGR-614 has lower hardware specs and too many revisions (most of them not supported by 3rd party firmwares)
    As for D-Link my recommendation is steer clear of them. There are some good ones but I wouldn't wanna risk it. With D-Link's support and history it's more like a gamble than a purchase.
     
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    and Don't waste your money on Belkin. Their nothing but problem if you want reliability.

    I like Buffalo routers too.
     
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    Ok so we cut out Belkin and D-Link routers, it pretty much leaves:
    Netgear WNDR3300
    Linksys WRT160N
    Netgear WNDR3700
    Asus WL-500G Premium
    Perhaps even Netgear WNR3500?
    I guess those all match my requirements of connecting it to an already working router?
     
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    My top three of those would be WNDR3700, Asus WL-500G Premium (order depends on your needs and price tag) and WRT160N as the third one in any case.
     
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    And so the basic way to get these working, is to connect a broadband cable from my 1st router to any of those 3 wireless routers, and presto they should work?
     
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    No, not that simple but close. blue68f100 described hot to do it several posts ago.
     
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    Yes I read that.. but that made little sense to me lol. Makes a little more sense when I re-read it :S
     
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    Well Since the WNDR3700 is the only good one I can buy in retail I probably want that.. I like it the most as well :)