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    HP Notebook To Get 802.11ax

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by WhatsThePoint, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. WhatsThePoint

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    HP today announces plans to upgrade its OMEN 15 gaming laptops with NVIDIA’s next-generation GeForce GPUs, a display panel featuring a 240 Hz refresh rate, and a new WiFi 6 (802.11ax) controller

    HP has not revealed the 802.11ax vendor/release date of model.

    Source:AnandTech
     
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    hmmm, interesting. i wonder what kind of wifi adapter is behind this?
     
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    Intel AX200/22260 or AX201/22560. Basically analogous to the 9260ac and 9560ac.

    AX200 would be the full fledged WiFi card.
    AX201 is also M.2 but it’s a cNVIO, RF only card with the WiFi chipset portion in the Intel CPU.

    I would expect to see Intel contracted factories selling these on the side pretty soon, just like the 9260ac this year. So my guess is probably by the end of next month for those who want to to buy the card.
     
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    I'm so waiting for this!
     
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    Here's what Asus has to say about their Mothership gaming notebook.

    "The ROG Mothership leaves gigabit networking in the dust starting with a 2.5G Ethernet controller that more than doubles the speed of typical wired ports. It’s paired with a next-generation Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 module that pushes peak throughput up to 2.4Gbps under ideal conditions. The wireless module is based on the standard otherwise known as 802.11ax, which in addition to boosting flat-out speed, borrows techniques from the cellular industry to improve traffic management and overall efficiency for busy networks."
    https://rog.asus.com/articles/gamin...actor-for-desktop-replacement-gaming-laptops/
     
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    pretty interesting stuff and just the right timing :) we just upgraded to 1 Gbit internet in our home and our current 7260/7265 wifi adapters cant keep up anymore haha :p so time for an upgrade and so far i had the 9260 in mind. but looks like waiting a bit would make sense :)
     
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    IEEE 802.11ax or Wifi -6 is bump up like sata 1 to sata 2, ect, it wont jump it up like sata 3 to Nvme, ax is 38% faster than ac,,wikipedia states it will be 4x faster throughput to the average user, time will tell, yet I think it will be a bump up rather than a jump and of course a router with ax capabilities will be needed as well
     
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    @3Fees well 802.11ad was a jump in speed and latency, implemented somewhat poorly though. 802.11ay should address the biggest shortcomings of it.
     
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    Pretty unexpected of HP, since up until kaby lake they're still including the 7265 m.2 wlan card on most of their laptops.
     
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    Not necessarily with any new technology full implementation of standards takes time and lots of testing, plus there can be changes in the standards to account for bugs and so forth, which would require significant changes.

    The old saying here is quite true when one buys new technology that is cutting edge be careful to not to cut yourself. New tech is typically expensive and after a few spinoffs and redos it settles down..

    I'd wait until ax is in many mainstream laptops and ax routers have come down in price. ax wifi cards for laptops should be available, usable and not cutting edge prices as well if going that way.
     
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    Hardware works best when it's set up correctly and the hardware is selected to work optimally together.
    An AX200 wireless card paired with a final draft AX router is IMO a way to go if you're needing an upgrade from previous generations and have the money to spend.
    IF you still have G or N hardware,maybe it's near that time to stop complaining and bite the bullet
    Your Internet speeds may not improve if your slow service is not upgraded.
    You can always wait for what's just around the corner or just get what you need when it's available and within your budget.
    There's nothing wrong with an Intel 9260/K1550 paired with an R7800 but....
     
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    The big question is how will 9260 interact with AX router. Will it be able to utilize 160MHz channels for 1733MHz bandwidth, or not?

    Anyone with Intel 9260/9560 and a fancy new 802.11ax router to check? (=
     
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    I believe Aivxtla is testing a Netgear RAX80 with his Intel 9260.
     
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    I’ve had no issues with HT160 in the 9260ac even with “ax mode” enabled (pointless to use ax mode since no ax cards are out yet, but useful to test backwards compatibility) on the router as HT160 is also part of the ac spec anyway as seen in the R7800. Some older cards such as the 7260ac had issues when “ax mode” was enabled regardless of HT160 or HT80 in the router in general where they wouldn’t connect until a recent driver update from Intel.
     
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