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    Finding out max supported wireless speed 4820TG

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Mattedatten, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Mattedatten

    Mattedatten Notebook Enthusiast

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    ---NOTE: This question is answered already, thanks downloads, but now (from 2nd page) I'm asking about routers ;) --

    Hey all!

    I have a Acer TimelineX 4820TG, or ever more precisly: Acer Aspire TimelineX 4820TG-5464G50Mnks

    It supports IEEE 802.11 b/g/n, at least that's what a label sticked on it says.
    "Acer NPlify™ 802.11b/g/n"

    So, now I've moved out from home, into a 1-room-"student-apartment", and I'm looking for a router for LAN(WAN) file sharing and streaming.

    At the moment I have:
    1 Desktop (that will be) connected by cable
    1 Laptop, the Acer, (that will be) connected to Wireless
    1 Xbox Slim (that will be) connected to Wireless.

    So, why did I put this thread in this topic?;

    I want to find out which is the max supported wireless speed of the Acer 4820TG?
    I mean, apparently, IEEE 802.11n can be 150-300-450 mbps, is any of those speeds supported by the 4820TG?

    Thanks in advance!
    //M
     
  2. aylafan

    aylafan TimelineX Elite

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    Unless, both the wireless router and network card support 450 mbps; which I highly doubt since you are asking this question. I would expect speeds somewhere between 150-300 mbps or less.
     
  3. Mattedatten

    Mattedatten Notebook Enthusiast

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    What I mean is that I've found different routers, all beeing "IEE 802.11n", which have had max WAN speeds of
    150 Mbps, ex: TP-Link TL-WR741ND
    300 Mbps, ex: TP-Link TL-MR3420 (coinsidence that i randomly picked 2 TP-Link routers :p )
    450 Mbps, ex: Netgear WNDR4000

    All those routers are in different price-ranges, often depending on the speed.
    So I'm trying to find out if it's worth to buy a more expensive and faster router, or if the Acer will "be stuck" at 150 even if I get a 450 Mbps.

    Or have I got this with speeds completely wrong? :rolleyes:

    Thanks for a answer anyway ;)
     
  4. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    What card exactly do you have in your notebook?
    BTW 450mbps is not worth it at the moment- hardly any faster than 300mbps but quite a lot more expensive.
     
  5. aylafan

    aylafan TimelineX Elite

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    I think you have it right. The thing is; I don't know what wireless card you have in your Acer. It's either Broadcom or Atheros. You'll have to do research on the model of the network card to figure out its max speed.
     
  6. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Open "Adapter Settings" from the "Network and Sharing Center" either from the control panel or on your wireless connection icon and it should tell you the make and model of your wireless card. Mine says "Intel (R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN". Most likely it will support 300Mbps and this is supported by most sub $100 wireless routers. 450Mbps isn't great right now since it hasn't been developed enough in many real products. You can read about it in several articles at smallnetbuilder.com.
     
  7. Sxooter

    Sxooter Notebook Virtuoso

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    My 4820TG has an AR9287 which is capable of 300Mb/s on 2.4GHz. I use a netgear WNR3500L with dd-wrt on it and get anywhere from 180 to 300Mb/s if I'm close to the router.
     
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    and then you need to start taking into account likely sources of interference in the 2.4 snd 5.8 Gz bands........ It doesn't take a lot of interference to start dropping throughput/speeds.
     
  9. Mattedatten

    Mattedatten Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, thanks for the answers guys.
    Right now, when connected by cable, i have 3 listed networks (and their used cards)
    (Rough translation guesses from swedish :)

    Connection to LAN, Atheros AR8151 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20)
    Wireless connection, Atheros AR5B97 Wireless Network Adapter
    Wireless connection, Microsoft Virtual WiFi Miniport Adapter

    So I guess that Atheros AR5B97 is my network card, I'll see if I find any speed-support.

    Thanks all!
    //M
     
  10. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Atheros AR5B97 uses AR9287 radio chip meaning it's 2T2R- in plain English: up to 300mbps.

    BTW if you're looking for a relatively cheap good router buy TP-Link TL-WR1043ND
     
  11. Mattedatten

    Mattedatten Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks very much!

    Now, for a reference, because I'm trying to go as cheap as possible (This apartment is 1 room and that means 22 sqm, so almost no requirements on wireless range);
    Why is the router you linked better than this one, that costs less than 2/3?
    TL-WR841ND - Welcome to TP-LINK

    Thanks for helping me finding the speed out! ;)
     
  12. .NetRolller 3D

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    Note: the only cards that support 450Mbps are Intel 5300/5350AGN, Intel 6300AGN and Atheros AR9380/AR9390.
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    1043 uses better CPU although both are 400MHz units, it has USB that can be used to share a drive and probably to work as a print server (although not with the default firmware) and has Gigabit Ethernet as opposed to 100mbps in 841.

    1043 has more flash which will matter if you are going to use a third party firmware.

    I'm not sure about radio chips so I won't go into details there. There's also info that the most recent version of 841ND uses 16MB RAM rather than 32MB that 1043 has but I'm not sure of that either.

    Anyway- in my opinion 1043 is well worth the price.
     
  14. tijo

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    Better CPU, possibly more RAM, i think the 1043 has one more antenna as well, i'd get the 1043. A better CPU and more RAM will go a long way for hooking up more devices to the network as well as handling more data being sent to and from the router which isn't a bad idea if you want to stream content in higher quality.
     
  15. weinter

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    I have the TP-Link WR1043ND and it is capable of doing 150Mbps on LAN.
    It is good considering wifi is only half duplex, 150Mbps is actually the fastest Radio Speed possible on the 300Mbps Router.
    Look at the 50% network utilization below. Note: I am using OpenWRT.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Mattedatten

    Mattedatten Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, great to find someone with the actual router :)

    Ehm, just a question; Why did you flash it to OpenWRT? Is the default "system" bad/unstable or did you miss some functions or ..? :rolleyes:

    Thanks for the detailed answer anyway :)
     
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    You don't get 3g Modem support on default firmware.
    You don't get OpenVPN support on default firmware.
    You don't get to increase Txpower on default firmware.
    You don't get to install more Linux Packages on default firmware.
    You don't get to install FTP service on default firmware.
    You don't get to mess with advance configuration on default firmware.
    Basically you don't really own the hardware until you install OpenWRT on it.
    There are many more things you can do on it after you install OpenWRT.
    Default firmware can suck but who cares when you have OpenWRT.
     
  18. tijo

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    Awesome speeds you got there Mattedaten, wireless to wired right? In any case, there isn't that many routers that can achieve those kind of transfer speeds with the default firmware as well as being limited in features. Now to find if i should get dd-wrt, openwrt or tomato for my E3000.
     
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    Another upside to the 1043ND is its price.

    The 1043ND can be found for approx $55- this week at quite a few on-line and retail outlets. The TP-Link access points can be had for approx $35-