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    FIOS and existing home wireless network questions..

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by kingbob, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. kingbob

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    I'm switching to FIOS, I currently have Verizon DSL. The Verizon modem isn't wirelss and is in bridge mode and it is connected to a D-Link DIR-655 router. I have my desktop hardwired to the D-Link and the wireless network is used for the laptops.

    When Verizon installs FIOS, it will be a modem/wireless router. Can I just plug my D-Link into the Verizon router without having to change any of my existing network settings, etc? And if at some point in time the D-Link fails etc, can I easily have my home network with the Verizon router? Is the Verizon network assigned a password when they do the install and then if I buy another device I simply need to enter the password to connect as I do now with the D-Link?

    I hope I worded this clearly! Thanks for your help.
     
  2. blue68f100

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    The FIOS does not use a modem. It has a tranceiver that will convert the fiber to an 100mbps eithernet connection. You should end up with an ActionTec Router if your getting the FIOS TV service too. You may not beable to bridge the routers if your using the TV Service. You can still daisy chain the routers though but you will need to make sure that is not using the same subnet or you will have an IP address conflict. If you daisy change the router you may need to add an FW rule to pass all traffic to your dlink.

    The FIOS router will have a password on it, the paperwork that comes with it will tell you what it is.
     
  3. kingbob

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    I really don't know anything about daisy chaining the routers or what a subnet is. Any suggestions or links where I can do some reading? Also, I am not getting FIOS tv at this time, just phone and internet. Thanks for the reply.
     
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    The easiest way to daisy chain router is connect to the second router directly. Turn off DHCP on the on the lan, Assign an Static IP that is in the subnet (192.168.xxx.) but out side of the DHCP range. Then you will connect the second router via LAN to LAN Port. Normally you use the Internet/WAN port. Connecting this way all of the DHCP IP's will be given out by the main router. Since you have a static IP adding you will beable to login to it and do admin work if needed.

    Since your are not getting their TV service they may give you a different router setup. If that is the case just use your original router and all will be good.

    I'm currently use a Netgear FVS338 router as my main and have two other routers used as AP's. The actiontec router provided by Verison is in it's own subnet so my network is still private away from there eyes. The only port that Verizon Block is Port 80 to prevent servers. They may block some of the game ports but I have never run across any.

    You will need to pick an area for them to set there equipment. The tranceiver requires ac anso does the phone's UPS unit. In most cases they mount them in the garage near where the phone comes in. I had mine sit into a closet where my breaker panel is and added a circuit just for their equipment.
     
  5. kingbob

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    How do I find out the DHCP range so I can assign a static IP to my current router? I really don't know much about this at all. Thanks.
     
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    Log in to your router and look for DHCP server. Usually there are just few settings there including the one you're looking for- Start IP and End IP- that's your DHCP range.
     
  7. CSHawkeye81

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    I turned off the dhcp function to the Actiontec Fios device and then pop it into my trendnet router and lucky for me I was able from the ONT box get an Ethernet cable to come from that and into my router.
     
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    We have FIOS internet, phone, and TV service. The built-in router is a complete turd. All I did was plug in my nice netgear router and it worked like a charm without having to touch anything else and I've never had an issue.

    Colloquially it's called a modem just like everything else like it. The only thing that is 'truly' a modem is what you use to dial up a server over the regular phone line.
     
  9. kingbob

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    How exactly did you connect your existing router, and what setting changes had to be made? Which port did you connect the Netgear too?
     
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    With an ethernet cable to one of the ethernet connectors on the back of the Verizon router. No settings were touched.

    Here, I just took a picture for you:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. kingbob

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    Thank you Trottel !! Rep for you. So if I am understanding this properly, you connect your router to the Verizon one using a LAN port from Verizon to internet in on your own router. And I am assuming that you have two wired devices connected to the Verizon router. Out of curiosity, why did you hard wire to the VZ router and not your own. Again, thanks for the pic. And also you said that no settings were touched in either router?
     
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    No problem. It shouldn't matter what device the other ethernet cables are plugged into. Besides the netgear router, one is for my brother's xbox and one is just there in case I want to connect something directly. A single 100Mbps line is a lot more than the internet bandwidth we get. No settings were touched on either router. There is a password on the FIOS router for wireless access, but I don't even know it anymore and that is a good thing.
     
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    FIOS is up and running. I am using the Verizon router. I may play around with adding my D-Link later. Maybe it won't even be necessary.
     
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    Good luck. I was having terrible issues with the wireless connection with multiple wireless adapters. It would just drop out every now and then and the signal strength was lower than the netgear.
     
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    I'll see how it works with the laptop. My desktop is hard wired and so far, so good. I'll keep you posted and again, thanks for the help. I may just try installing the D-Link just to see if it works in case I run into any problems in the future.