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    Extremely poor Wi-fi performance in 7. Max signal. W7 constantly scanning wi-fi? Is it W7?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by pampum, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. pampum

    pampum Notebook Geek

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    I have recently moved my laptop up to Windows 7 64-bit (after initially using vista and xp). Its a 5920g with a afaik good intel 4965agn wireless card.

    I notice now that the wireless performance is shifty/less consistent compared to before.

    What I think is going on is windows 7has changed its built in wi-fi utility and is now constantly scanning and updating the wi-fi networks around me!

    I would prefer it if it just connected to my home network wireless and stayed locked there, not doing any scanning or extra work unless I tell it to. I.e default xp behavour, where the wireless clients list would not update unless you pressed refresh. It just stayed locked onto your network and nothing else.

    In 7 it seems things are updating on the fly every second or so! I can see networks are conditionally refreshing and updating even though I dont care about them.

    My ping has risen overall to the internet and there is always initial stutter or delay to get things going. It seems the connection to the router is casuign this delay.

    Heres how it performs everytime I run a ping test to my own router!

    Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64

    Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 44ms, Average = 12ms

    Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64

    Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 44ms, Average = 12ms

    Anything over 1ms to your router indicates a problem.

    I was initially running stock 7 drivers, I updated the 4965agn drivers from the official intel website
    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18754&ProdId=2753〈=eng
    with no change whatsoever.

    Any ideas how to turn windows 7 wi fi scnaning? Or disable windows wi fi and use some other wireless configuration utility?

    Can other people on W7 64 do some ping tests to their routers?
     
  2. Joel

    Joel coffeecoffeecoffeecoffee

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    I doubt it's to do with Win7... Most likely your Router, i.e where it's positioned etc. When I was running Win7, I never had problems with scanning, etc.
     
  3. pampum

    pampum Notebook Geek

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    Its not the router. I have 3 other computers none of them have this problem. They are all over wireless too. Heck I could take my other laptop outside, get almost zero signal and it still gets 1ms 1ms 1ms always.

    Here take a a look heres from another computer.

    Pinging 192.168.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from 192.168.1.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

    Ping statistics for 192.168.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 1ms

    With my 5920g running 7 64 bit even if i place it right next to the antenna it does it. Its 100% not signal or position related

    I am not having problems with scanning.
    I am speculating constantly updating networks around you which no other OS besides 7 AFAIK, may be stuttering the wireless.
    If you click on the wi fi logo in the task bar you will see networks are constantly being scanned and updated in real time.
     
  4. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    My guess would be the aggressive power management of Win 7.
    Try to change the setting for the power-plan you are using and disable any power saving for Wi-Fi card (if present)
     
  5. pampum

    pampum Notebook Geek

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    done all that before I posted :( All power saving I can think of is disabled, including the windows power management, aggredsve roaming has gone from low to high and everything in between, And I'm doing it on high performance mode. Though None of these settings seem to make a difference whatsoever.

    Hah I really love your DP. I genuinely got the feeling you were deeply pondering about my question.
     
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    Saisei Notebook Deity

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    WLAN optimizer to disable the background auto scan. Stops the ping spikes, it was the only way i could play games. Yours isnt as bad compared to my 1000ms+ spikes.

    I pinned it down to the driver, i was on W7 64bit and the driver was for Vista.

    2ms is fine for a wireless connection.
     
  8. pampum

    pampum Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for the suggestions guy I was really optimistic these would help but still the same issue occurs :(

    I tried WLAN optimiser turned of all that auto scan, and now its just connected no auto scan, but it still has the same problem

    Btw its not 2ms, sometimes its 4 6 8 etc, and at the start its always 50.
    This is just to the router, internet ping is totally in addition to this. Your home networks should always be less than 1ms, yes even on wireless anything above1 is abnormal.
     
  9. flipfire

    flipfire Moderately Boss

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    Did you try using the Intel Proset software to take over the windows wireless config?

    I have a 4965AGN on my notebook and when i never had issues with it on W7 64bit. I dont even remember installing the Intel drivers.

    Also in Device manager > Network adapters > 4965AGN > Settings. Turn Roaming aggressiveness to Low
     
  10. jerry66

    jerry66 Notebook Deity

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    i have the same card running win-7 64 , I will run some tests and post results later, but I have not noticed any problems . I use the intel client to connect not windows zero config
     
  11. pampum

    pampum Notebook Geek

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    jerry plesse pot your results if you can. Woudl be intersting to see if you have the same problem
     
  12. pampum

    pampum Notebook Geek

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    flipfire, how do you let the intel proset wireles take over from win 7?
     
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    Run the Intel connection utility and there should be a setting to set it as the default connection manager. This *might* stop it from background scanning.
     
  14. pampum

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    i have downloaded the driver from intel website. It just installs bunch of diagnostics and information, no wireless connection utility from intel.