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    Does Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN support 802.11n?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by LapBoot, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. LapBoot

    LapBoot Notebook Geek

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    Got a laptop a month back and now planning to get a Wireless router. I'm a total noob at this.
    From what I've read so far the 802.11n seems still in draft? But I was wondering even if I do get a 802.1n router would this work with my laptop?

    Also any recommendations on a good wifi router would be great. I have 2 laptops and 2 desktops right now (dont think I would be getting any other system anytime soon) but would like to be able to hook up a few more if possible (wired especially).

    TIA
     
  2. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah you sort of answered your own question the 5100 is AGN so it works with any of those network types.

    Yes "N" is still in draft, and there are some compatability issues here and there. However it has come far enough that you should have no connection issues just some people cant get full N speeds without certian router/card combos.

    The 5300 is the card to get if your trying to be more future proof and want a really good N network one day.

    Routers? Depends I like Buffalo products. No issues with mine but have gone through several linksys & dlink products.

    Any decent wireless router will have probably about 4 wired ports also. Or you can keep your existing wired router and just get a wireless AP to plug into it.
     
  3. LapBoot

    LapBoot Notebook Geek

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    Oh! so AGN are the different supported 802.11 standards? Guess I should've figured that out. :)

    Cool. Will need to start checking out the different brands now I guess.
     
  4. Wirelessman

    Wirelessman Monkeymod

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    It will depend on what card you have on your lap, if is a G card then it will not get N speed.
     
  5. LapBoot

    LapBoot Notebook Geek

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    How do I determine if it is a G or N card?
     
  6. kegobeer

    kegobeer 1 hr late but moving fast

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    Review the order form supplied with your computer - look at the wifi section and do a Google search on the model number.
     
  7. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    a 5100 is A, G & N....

    There is no different version of it that I know of.
     
  8. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    Intel i5x00 chipsets are draftn 2.0 compliant.
    They have 11n disabled as per Draftn 2.0 rules by default (as all Draftn 2.0 should)

    Remember this when setting it up, to first turn it on :)
     
  9. LapBoot

    LapBoot Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for the tips. :)
    Am looking for a good 802.11n router now, any recommendations?
     
  10. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    Dlink DIR-655 still a good choice f you never broadcast in 11a, other wise the DIR-855 is the ultimate router.
    With latest firmware the USB port can be used for printers, USB HD's and all sorts of other media that needs sharing.
     
  11. LapBoot

    LapBoot Notebook Geek

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    What about the DIR 628?
    Also how come this dual band router is cheaper than the DIR 655?
     
  12. foxnews

    foxnews Notebook Consultant

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    how do you enable N with intel 5100
     
  13. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    The DIR-628 is a dual antenna router.
    The DIR-655/855 are 3 antenna routers.

    The 628 is a dual band router BUT it can only transmit in 2.4Ghz OR 5Ghz not both
    The 855 can do both 2.4 and 5Ghz simultaneously
    The 655 can of course only transmit in 2.4Ghz

    The 655 and 855 can have heaps of simultaneous connections so if your a Torrent freak this is a huge plus.

    To me the 628 is a waste (like the 4500) using only band is of little use if you have to switch between them.

    In the end you get what you pay for :)
     
  14. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    you need to go into the device properties then advanced.
    In here enable wide band (or what ever Intel call it) and also from memory there is a 11n enable.

    Not got this card installed as it refuses to work on my E1705 :(
    So can only advice on what I remember while trying to get it going
     
  15. foxnews

    foxnews Notebook Consultant

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    I set the following:
    802.11n channel width for band 2.4: auto (from default "20Mhz only")
    802.11n channel width for band 5.2: auto (default)
    802.11n mode: enable (default)
    wireless mode: 6. 802.11 a/b/g (default) there is no "n"
     
  16. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    That should be all that is needed for 11n
    802.11n and channel width 40Mhz = n
    Channel width 20Mhz = 130/150Mbps
     
  17. Hunter78

    Hunter78 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wonder where you have found the information on the N.
    Then I wonder if Lenovo 3000 N500 4233 series supports N network with the following network card
    Intel WiFi Link 5100 AGN.

    When I linked up with Rauter with N, so I got a speed of about 65 Mbps, but far away from the
    speed of 100-130 Mbit/s +.

    I have spoken to Lenovo and received a reply to update drivers on all that goes too uppdate and see if it works.

    For if I have 65 then I am on N linkage because the G only goes up to 54 Mbit/s.

    So what do you do?

    Someone who knows what to do?
    Could it have something to do with Cpun which is a Dual Core Pentium 2Ghz with 3GB
    framework and Vista Basic. Can your computer to be too weak for such high speeds?

    there is someone who has a similar computer or weaker model and run with
    Intel WiFi Link 5100 GLUME and speeds over 100 Mbit / s

    I bought the computer for exactly 7 days ago at Media Markt in Malmö - Sweden.

    What can I do to have 130 Mbit plus / s, etc.
    I have updated and installed everything that goes to update on the computer but still no higher speed?

    Has also updated Rauter, etc. but no luck!

    All help is welcome!
     
  18. roy33sakic

    roy33sakic Notebook Enthusiast

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    I I just got an ASUS g50vt-x2 and according to its specs on ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220403 ) it has 802.11n Wireless LAN.

    I have the same adapter (Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN) and I messed with the settings quite a bit. Still can't get over 54 Mbps wireless. No idea what I'm doing wrong.
     
  19. alanf

    alanf Newbie

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    support 11n?

    Yes - well mine does - Lenovo SL500 - WiFi Link 5100 AGN - OS - XPPro
    I had a problem getting it to work. Only ran at 11b when 1st used - (mixed mode on router) - Eventually got it to work OK.
    - Set router to 11n only, used WPA2-PSK.
    - Configured to use Windows to configure wireless connections
    - START, Control Panel, Network Conections
    - Right click adaptor, select Properties.
    - "Wireles Network Connection Properties window opens" - Clicked on adaptor and then "Wireless Networks" tab.
    - Ticked box " Use Windows to configure my network settings"

    Then clicked on General Tab, and then "Configure"
    - Channel Width - default
    - Channel Width - default
    - 11n mode - default
    - ad/hoc 11b/g 11
    - power mgmt - default
    - QoS - default
    default, default etc
    - Throughput Enhancements - enabled
    - Wireless mode 11g only.

    Clicked "Wireless on button"

    seems to work OK.

    Speed varies between 14 - 140 Mbs
    Thinkvantage Access Connections status window shows "Current Channel" as 6 N - I assume the N is for draft N.
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    Oh - yes - 1st updated to latest driver from intel, (did not run the install as this would have installed the Intel connection mgr, I just updated the driver - one thing at a time. - .

    Next I'll set the router back to mixed mode and see what happens.

    What a pain :-(
     
  20. Milkman Dan

    Milkman Dan Newbie

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    Found the solution to this. You have to enable AES, because the WiFi links do not work with 802.11n if TKIP is enabled.
     
  21. ws2112

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    I have a dell studio xps 16 with the intel wifi link 5100 on it. And I have an Linksys WRT310N. Before I got this laptop, all myHP pavilion laptops use their wireless g card to access the router and the speed are at ~15000Kbps. But when I hook this lappy to the network, the speed on this laptop is disappointing, results in just around 3000Kbps. I have enabled all the configuration on the card. But still no change. I tried to enable N wireless on router also (disable all the b/g devices) but the speed doesn't increase. I tried to talk to dell rep and he told me that I have to turn off all the startup programs and run like that to be able to have better speed () T_T. Anyone knows if this is the issue of the card or of the configuration and please help me. Thank you
     
  22. sublime313

    sublime313 Notebook Evangelist

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    changing my channel width for 2.4ghz to AUTO -which allows the 40mhz- finally enabled my dir-625 to hit 270Mbps from the prior 130Mbps. here's my question: with my slow 5Mbps dsl connection, does this change even make any difference to me?
     
  23. wlan_man

    wlan_man Notebook Consultant

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    Nope

    5Mbps from a possible 270 = 2% bandwidth used :)
     
  24. Toyo

    Toyo Notebook Deity

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    I have all 3 Intel cards on various laptops. 4965AG, 5100AGN, 5300AGN, and without any doubt, my 4965 runs faster and has much better reception than the others. Of course this is just my experience.
     
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    Tippey764 Notebook Deity

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    It does N but it only has 2 antenna's so its not as good as the 5300 or 4965.
     
  26. tentaro

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    Ok How do you turn it on? I have been working on computers for the last 18 years of my life and cannot figure out why this card is operating at 54Mbs when it should be at 270 or at least above 100 anyway but I get over 200 upstairs on my machine. Is there some other place that you need to turn this on besides in the Advanced tab under properties for the card?
     
  27. nobscot6

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    hi
    try reading all the posts on page 2, if you haven't already.........

    here's 1:
    and remember that you must enable AES......
     
  28. discus

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    in where to enable AES ??
     
  29. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    From the Intel Release Notes for the 12.2 version of the Intel PROSet/Wireless software for XP:

    In other words, make sure that you have either WPA-Personal or WPA2-Personal enabled as the security on your wireless network.
     
  30. Agewardel

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    I am looking at the Buffalo AirStation Wireless-N Nfniti WLI-TX4-AG300N. I'm kinda new at the wireless tech, but from what I've read the dual band is the way to go, but others run $200+. Does any one know anything, or have you any experience with this model.
     
  31. wlan_man

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    I've got the WZR-AG300HN, great product, works as it should for me.
    Buffalo don't often update their Firmware only real gripe, should a problem occur then there is a good chance that you are stuck with it.

    And yes dual band routers are the way of the future.
    Not all that far away you'll be broadcasting video on one channel and surfing on another.
    This probably won't become main stream till 450MBps (3 channel) routers come out.
    But 450Mbps in 2.4Ghz will use nearly half the available channels, so congestion will no doubt be rampant in high rise buildings.
    But then WiMAX routers may also make an appearance to alleviate this problem.
    Interesting times ahead.
     
  32. lucianmarian

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    How do you enable the 11n from memory ?
     
  33. Exostenza

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    AWESOME!!!
     
  34. Dzvinochok

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    Hello from Ukraine.

    I have Intel Wifi Link 5100, Vista Home Premium, D-link DI-655.

    My Intel Wifi Link 5100 wad worked on speed 65 Mbit. I've done some changes and now have speed 150 Mbit.
    Down is some steps:

    1. Update driver from Intel web page.
    2.Go to Device Manager, find there Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN, then properties, then Advanced. Then change Channel Width from 20 to auto. Close.
    3. Go to router setup via lan cable, click Setup > Wireles setting > Choice Mixed 11n and 11g, in point Channel Width choice auto(20-40 MHz).

    The main solution is to change channel width from 20 to 40

    Good luck
     
  35. LaptopWolf

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    Hi folks. OK, so I'll sum up the solution to this forum question, "Does Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN support 802.11n?":

    Lets assume your wifi Router/Access point is a D-Link DIR-655 (like the one I use) ... you need to do this:


    Router configuration:
    1) Go to web address http://192.168.0.1/ to log into your router (or whatever address that the "ipconfig /all" command entered in the command (cmd.exe) window gives as your Default Gateway.)

    2) Set router to 11n only, use WPA2-PSK.

    3) Enable AES, not TKIP.

    4) See http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=616.0 for more precise info.

    Windows configuration:
    * Make sure windows is configuring your wifi connection, not some 3rd party control panel.

    Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN adapter configuration:
    1) Might as well update the adapter driver to version 12.4.3.9 or better, found at http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/wireless/adapters/5000/

    2) In Vista, go to Control Panel-->System-->Device Manager-->Network adapters-->Intel(R) Wifi Link 5100 AGN-->Advanced-->Property

    3) Set "802.11n Channel Width for band 2.4" to "Auto"

    4) Make sure that "802.11n Mode" is set to "Enabled" (should be already defaulted this way.)

    5) "Throughput Enhancement" should be "Enabled"

    6) Set "Wireless Mode" to "3.802.11g"


    This will at least make your Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN adapter no longer be stuck at 65Mbps and instead run at 150Mbps (and occasionally hop up to 270Mbps or down to 54Mbps.)

    The thing is, you might notice that 802.11n hardware like the D-Link XTREME N adapters (PC Card, ExpressCard, USB, PCI and PCI-E versions), as well as the Belkin N1 Wireless USB Adapter will run at 300Mbps after you configure your router as described above. Does anyone have any idea how to make the Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN adapter run at 300Mbps instead of 150Mbps in this situation?
     
  36. darvon44

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    To help You all.

    I have A netgear wrn3500 and i get 300 mbps with my intel 5100 agn.
    here is the way to get it.

    802.11 n channel width for band 2.4 Value:Auto
    802.11n Channel width for band 5.2 Value:Auto
    802.11n Mode Value:Enabled
    Ad hoc channel 802.11b/g Value:11
    Ad Hoc Default wireless mode Value:0. 802.11b/g
    ad hoc power management Value: Disabled
    Ad hoc Qos Mode Value:WMM Disabled
    Fat Channel Intolerant Value: Disabled
    Mixed Mode Protection Value:CTS-to-self Enabled
    Roaming Aggressiveness Value:Highest
    Throughput Enhancement Value:Enabled
    Transmit Power Value:Highest
    Wireless Mode Value:802.11a/b/g

    Now that should at least give u up to 300 mbps. trust me it works.
    any question