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    DSL Questions

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by AKAJohnDoe, May 8, 2008.

  1. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    I currently have a house that has two phone lines (separate numbers) coming into it. One phone line (mine) also has DSL (Verizon).

    I am dropping my landline and the associated DSL. It is just too expensive, slow, and I simply do not need a landline anymore. I got EVDO, which runs a tad faster and does not tie me to a physical location nor require I maintain a landline and long distance as part of the "deal".

    The person with the other line wants to pick up Verizon DSL. She can get the new subscriber good deals and buy my wireless router cheap (which she has been using, so there's no configuration changes for her, either).

    It would probably make sense to overlap by a day or two at least to ensure she has uninterrupted service.

    So, my questions:
    1. Can there be two DSL lines simultaneously active coming in on the Verizon twisted pair?
    2. I would expect that there is about a 10 day lead time for her new service installation; however, my service terminations should be able to be effected the same day I call in. Correct?
    3. Any other issues or concerns I might not have thought of?
     
  2. blue68f100

    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

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    You can have DSL on any pair, so yes both can have DSL. The login info will change, due to the new account.
     
  3. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    OK. I was not sure if DSL worked on a pair or if it needed three wires.

    I do not know how her DSL will come. Mine came with a Westel WireSpeed 2100 MODEM, into which I plugged an 802.11b/g wireless router. It is possible to plug directly into the MODEM, but the wireless is much more convenient. There is no login info needed by me, perhaps it is locked into the firmware in the MODEM.
     
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    When you did a setup up probably gave the login info and it was stored in the router. Once setup you forget about it. You can do a direct connect, no problem there. All of the DLS's I have setup have had ID & PW stored somewhere, either router or PC.
     
  5. AKAJohnDoe

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    I do not recall doing a setup; just plugging it in. I think the Verizon MODEM was pre-configured. I have been unable to access the configuration in all the time I have had it. No matter. I configured my router as I wanted it configured.
     
  6. Wirelessman

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    The twisted pair for the phone line is different than the one for DSL, very different, they may look similar but they are not.
     
  7. AKAJohnDoe

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    I do not see how they can be different as the wires from the street to the house and inside the house have not changed since the house was built in the early 1980's.

    And I can plug the DSL MODEM into any phone jack in the house and it will work, as will any phone in any jack as long as I plug a filter inline with the phone.
     
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    From the house to the CO are different, the normal telephone line has some passive components conditioning the line to counterfight the inherent capacitance/inductance of the transmission line, for data we must remove those components from the poles. Anyway, ask you ISP technician to confirm, I'm tire now and I'm going to bed.
     
  9. AKAJohnDoe

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    I know there has been work to the main box in the neighborhood (about 3 blocks away), but there's been nothing done between there and my house in over 15 years.

    One of the main reasons I'm dumping Verizon; nothing has changed in 15 years except the price (200% increase). Oh, and the QOS has gone down on the voice side, too.
     
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    Wirelessman Monkeymod

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    And as they buy all the companies around worst the service and price will become, I'm with you, welcome to Monopoly America.