Configure Access Point In Repeater Mode With Adslmodem Router

Hey Buddies

I've got a Dlink DWL 2100AP access point, which i want to configue as a repeater for my utstarcom wa3002g4 adsl modem router.

detailed steps to do the same will be very helpful from u experts.

thanx n regards

PS: Is it possible to have wpa psk security in repeater mode.

 

You can get the Manual and other Support goodies from here.

I take it that the ADSL Modem is a Wireless Router as well.

Basically what you are doing when configuring an Access Point or Repeater from my experience is matching the settings of the Main Router; in your case that being the ADSL Modem/Router.

Yes it is possible to have WPA PSK Security in this mode.

 

Not so sure about your description there, Mak....and I think you might be wrong about the WPA...at least with my limited experience with only one device.

First thing you need is the manual for the utsarcom. Does it support WDS?

Here's what I have done in the past.

Base station--plug in the MAC ADDRESS into the base station so it can find the repeater--they communicate that way, not by ip address. You cannot configure the Repeater to the main router with the same info (ip address) because you cannot have two devices on the same network with the same ip address, hence the MAC address.

Which leads us to problem two--wpa and wpa 2 encrypt the MAC address--which would kill the connection between the router and repeater. So you are stuck with WEP.

At least that is what I have seen with older equipment--maybe things have changed?

 

Sorry, I guess I worded wrong. I have two Linksys Routers, both are flashed with DD-WRT firmware and one I have configured as a Repeater (WDS). So yea I know what i'm talking about gerry. And I am using WPA security. It is possible.

When the OP starts configuring the Repeater I think they will get the idea of what I meant by matching the settings. Of course they both can't have the same IP Address...that should be well-known by any one with Networking experience. No two devices should have the same IP Address.

 

Hey Buddy
Thanx for the reply
I am successful in connecting my Dlink DWL 2100AP in repeater mode with my UTSRATCOM WA3002G4. Its showing LAN as well as Internet connection with 80-90% signal strength. But newer problem is that I am unable to open most of the pages and links on net, it seems internet speed have slowed down a lot with repeater & when i reach in the range of parent router everything works fine...
Any solutions/ suggestions???
Regards

 

As I said, Mak, I was not sure about the WPA...only set it up once with some equipment that did not support it, but it was not worth the trouble as the OP is discovering.

The reason arihantddn may be seeing reduced bandwitdh is that in repeater mode you have huge overhead with each packet traveling through the air multiple times, plus the overhead of maintaining the connection between router devices.

Also, Mak, I was pretty sure you knew how to do it--that was not my concern. I just think you "short-handed" your explanation. You used DD-WRT, which supports it, but my original point is that not all devices support it out of the box.

I still kind of wonder if he really is using WDS. His last post adds to the confusion when he states "when i reach in the range of parent router everything works fine..."

It sounds like there is something missing from the picture....

 

Yes in Repeater mode the connection wouldn't be as fast all the time as it is with the Main Router; but it shouldn't have those effects such as pages and links not opening. I used to use plain Repeater Bridge mode without WDS but I experienced alot of random disconnects so I gave WDS a try and the connection has been very stable since. That's the only issue i've ever had with RB mode. The speed shouldn't be that bad either.

I'm sorry to say I honestly don't have a solution for your issues OP. Maybe try turning off all encryption? That might be the issue....

 

Honestly, I am still wondering if he "really" has it setup correctly....that said, after looking at this the dlink manual, I must say you were right on every score.

Apparantly the device can self configure as a repeater without the original device supporting it, and yes, it supports WPA.

My only previous experience with WDS required both devices know about the other via MAC address to maintain a reliable connection between the root router and the repeating router--and those devices allowed only wep--wpa and wpa had to be disabled or it wouldn't work.

 

HEY BUDDIES
IF U HAVE GOT ANY DOUBTS ABOUT MY SETUP..PLZ HAVE A LOOK AT FOLLOWING SCREEN SHOTS...N UPDATE..
1- http://i25.tinypic.com/2ed5p1e.jpg
2- http://i31.tinypic.com/359lai8.jpg
3- http://i29.tinypic.com/1ouf84.jpg
4- http://i28.tinypic.com/s49ba0.jpg
5- http://i26.tinypic.com/2duebg4.jpg

 

Hey buddies don't laugh ..plz...jus let me know if it is possible..

I use a repeater to increase the signals of an adsl modem router.

Now is it possible to connect something, may be an access point to the repeater via ethernet, so that it (access point) can send the wifi signal (recd using repeater) ahead without compromising with the band width. As "repeater only halves the bandwidth when sending wifi signal and not when connected with ethernet". Also we may require to set repeater such that it doesn't send wifi signals forward.

If it is possible, i can use complete bandwidth without loosing speed on internet??

 

What? Can you restate your question in an understandable sentence?

Anyways.. a wireless repeater doesn't usually half your bandwidth. The only reason why you're using a repeater is to increase the range of the wireless network. Having a repeater in somewhere which boost the signal, you'll have a faster network. So in a sense, having a repeater, instead halving your bandwidth, it might double your bandwidth instead.

 

as i told u i'm using a repeater for increasing wifi signal, after repeater my wifi signal are very good..80-90% where earlier it was 10%.
it is connecting to internet but the internet speed has gone down. means its taking too lang to login to email, open links on web pages, loading pages in browser. when i'm in the range of my base router every thing works normal. also when i connect my laptop to repeater using ethernet than also everything is fine.

you can also follow a link on that in another forum:
http://broadbandforum.in/bsnl-broadband/49670-configure-access-point-repeater-mode-adslmodem-router/

now what i want is that.. if i connect something say an access point to the repeater via ethernet and that new access point sends wifi signal, those may work for me as they will have extended range and they will come from ethernet & hence i feel the speed will be good enough..

 

pictures are always great.

Well, a couple interesting notes...

1) your adsl modem interface looks nothing like the manual I downloaded--albeit the manual I downloaded was not for the exact same model, just the closest I thought I could come.

I note you have a tab called WIRELESS BRIDGE....you didn't show it

b)the manual I have for the DWL 2100AP does not mention a UNIVERSAL REPEATER mode. What version of the AP do you have (my manual is for Version 2.0

 

two threads on the same topic? very annoying.

Run a 100 foot cat6 cable from your adsl modem to your AP, switch the AP from repeater to AP only

That greatly reduces the amount of air traffic and dedicates all the wireless to the communication for your laptop and none for the Repeater to ADSL Modem (base router)

 

I have merged your threads. Please do not make multiple threads on basically the same topic as it is against forum rules.

 

My appologies for the inconvenience regretted...
here is the screen shot of router bridge mode...
http://i31.tinypic.com/2gx4axf.jpg

 

and that is how you had it set up earlier when you were having the slowness problem?

Also, you wouldn't happen to know where a manual for this adsl modem can be found? I cannot find one anywhere.

 

Hey buddies

since i was not able to get good enough speed with dwl 2100ap repeater i changed my mind to relocate my adsl modem router. After lot of hits n trials i have worked out a spot in my soho which seems to give enough wifi access in my house with my utstarcom adsl modem router only. I just need to bring phoneline to this place. (earlier my adsl modem router was placed with desktop n i was trying to place the repeater where now i have put adsl modem router)

kindly see the link for new setup:
http://i27.tinypic.com/24exugz.jpg

now there is one more problem that if i use a wifi usb adapter (dlink dwa 110) with my desktop, it shows only 30% signals and internet speed is very slow, while at the same point my laptop shows 60-70% signals and internet works good enough.

Now either i m required to lay down a cat-5 cable from adsl modem router to my desktop (which is a bit too difficult), or any thing else u guys can suggest??

Also suggest should i buy an ethernet ready all in one printer and connect it to adsl modem router using ethernet/ or should i buy a wifi printer and connect it to adsl modem router using wifi. I need to place this printer next to my desktop. Will there be any difference in performance if i use all in one printer on wifi..??

Rgds

 

Here's a thought that might help you to fix both the desktop and the printer issue. Get a network-ready wired printer, and then get yourself one of these:



It's a wireless print-server that can also act as a wireless connection for up to four wired computers. The one I've pictured above is the one I've been using for about a year and a half with no problems, it's the Netgear WGPS606.

Using something like this should permit you to both put a printer online - in this case, you can either use a USB printer that plugs into one of the two USB printer ports on the print-server, or else use an ethernet printer that plugs into one of the four ethernet ports on the back of the print-server. You could then plug your desktop into one of the other four ethernet ports, thereby giving your desktop the wireless connectivity you've been trying to get for it. Also, because the WGPS606 wireless print server is a stand-alone device with its own external antenna, it should get much better reception than the USB adapter you're currently using for your desktop, so you should be able to improve apon that 30% signal you're currently getting.

Just for reference, below is a usage diagram showing how this thing can be used:

 

Thanks buddy for the suggestion. Please clarify:-
If I connect my desktop to it via ethernet, it will work the same way as a USB wifi adapter does for my desktop??
Will this be able to give me a wireless LAN facility??

By the way in India its costing appx. 150USD, I will have to think thrice before planning for it.

 

if that is not an optimal solution, have you updated your drivers for you usb adapter
http://www.dlink.com.au/tech/Download/download.aspx?product=DWA-110&revision=REV_A&filetype=Drivers

Also, is your desktop tower on the floor or on the desk?

I have never had good luck with usb adapters when it comes to signal strength, but placement is key.

If the laptop works on the desk better, your desktop tower needs to be in the same place to get similar results. 1 meter can make a difference

 

Desktop is on desk. I have tried at various levels, laptop works fine even at a distance of 6" and also 2' behind it, but wifi adaptor on desktop seems no good to me. (Its a brand new one)

 

OK, but what about the drivers....?

 

Not much I can do about the price. However, if you connect your desktop to one of the ethernet ports on the back of the print-server using an ethernet cable, then yes, it will connect your desktop to your network wirelessly via the wireless print-server.

 

Thnx For The Clarification Buddy