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    Best wifi card with 5ghz for laptop

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by ngotiendat, Nov 8, 2014.

  1. ngotiendat

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    Hello guys, I need an other wifi card for my old g53sx laptop, the stock just only has 2.4 ghz and now I wanna improve to 5ghz because I have 5ghz router. So what is the best wifi card for my laptop.
    My budget is around $20.
     
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    Intel 6200 - cheap, stable with good drivers.
     
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    I'd say take the 6235. Should do you well.
     
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    There is a certain gamble with 6230/6235 - for reasons that are not exactly clear (Intel blames it on notebook design flaws but this doesn't seem to be the case) this card can suffer from sudden slowdowns (throughput goes down like a stone).

    This has been fixed and then apparently broken again by subsequent driver updates from Intel - and since 6230/6235 is just a 6200 with Bluetooth on it, I'd go with 6200, unless you need BT, in which case 6230/6235 makes more sense.
     
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    I need BT too, cuz I always use bt mouse and kb :), so I should go with 6200 is best solution because it's no problem when using right?
     
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    If this happens, going to network control center, clicking on "change adapter settings" then selecting the adapter and choosing "disable" then "enable" will fix the throughput issue. This issue exists with the 7260ac chips too, and did not exist with the 5300N chips. Once this is cleared up though, it usually doesn't break again barring a PC restart of some kind (and even then, it rarely shows up, and almost never does so after rebooting; usually after a few hours or days have passed). I've given up on having them working 100% unfortunately. I'll take 99% working with a fix though.
     
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    Check for it, but doesn't the G53sx have a separate bluetooth module. If that's the case, then a 6200 will work nicely. That was the case with my G73Jh back in the day.
     
  9. Qing Dao

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    Please don't listen to these people who suggest the 6200 for 5Ghz performance...... They are saying that because it has 5Ghz, is cheap, and they can't think of anything else, not because it is good. (It works, but its performance is poor compared to other cards.) The Intel 6XXX series of wireless cards (and the 5XXX) before them, are known for offering substandard performance on the 5Ghz band. On the 2.4Ghz band they are great though.

    If you want good 5Ghz performance for $20 or less, get the Atheros AR5BHB92 (sometimes listed as just AR9280) or Intel 7260 AGN. The ARBHB92 and 7260 AGN both offer the same good performance. My only caution is about the Intel 7260 AGN, because some people seem to have lots of trouble with its drivers and need to spend a lot of time tweaking its wireless settings. I were in your shoes, I would just go with the ARBHB92. It is cheaper anyway.

    Unfortunately Amazon in the UK doesn't really have either of these cards at good prices, but they are cheap and plentiful on Ebay UK:

    ar5bhb92 | eBay

    7260 an | eBay
     
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    What about the intel AC 7260 tho?
     
  12. Qing Dao

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    All that shows is that performance for routers is all over the place, even with the same chipset.

    The Intel 7260 AGN and AC are brothers. They came out at the same time. If they are both running on a Wireless N network, there is no reason for them to show different performance. The test you linked to above uses an Intel 7260 AGN. It seems to work quite well...

    When I got my 7260 AC I compared it against the 6300 that it replaced. The 6300's 2.4Ghz performance was better than the 7260 AC's 2.4Ghz performance. The 6300 got better reception to the three wireless networks in the house and could even spot neighbors' wireless networks that the 7260 was unable to see. This was all tested with single and dual stream 2.4Ghz Wireless N and Wireless G, and the 7260 AC is not better in this regard. I suspect the 7260 AC's 2.4Ghz Wireless N performance to be equal to the 5100 and 6200's 2.4Ghz performance. That isn't to say the 7260 AC performs poorly, because it doesn't. It just is a little behind the 6300, but behind it nonetheless.

    (the Intel 7260 series in general is known to have driver issues... which is why I recommend Atheros)
     
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    The likely reason for this is that the 6300 is a 3 antennae chip whereas the 7260 chips are all 2 antennae. The 6300 will see networks from further away and should maintain a stronger signal as long as the router is not only using two antennae. Throughput on anything but an AC connection from a 2-antennae on a 3-antennae network ought to always pale in comparison to a 3-antennae card on a 3-antennae network as well. Of course, I don't know your setup nor your neighbour's setup, but I just thought that might explain the differences in reception and any throughput you might have found.
     
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    Try killer double shot pro
     
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    This has been quiet for a bit and I'm interested to know if either of these will work any better then my BF Killer K1202

    Broadcom Bcm4352
    or
    Azurewave AW-CE123H

    I realize the Azurewave uses the same components from the Broadcom, but I have seen different stats from each.

    Thanks
     
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    Before saying otherwise did you find a Service manual for your G53SX that states it can take a intel dual band wifi? Not all wifi will work in all laptops and you be throwing good money after bad upgrades. You should first check Asus site to see what wifi came with the laptop to verify what other dual band family wifi will work in your system. Don't just go out plugging in wifi cards some are whitelisted and you will loose money in upgrading. You want to post to a Asus forum site there someone with a matching laptop can verify to you whether or not it can be upgraded to a dual band as well. So don't just go to one source but check on a Asus Forum site as well. It does indicate a Intel wifi and yours says it already has a bluetooth in there unless there isn't one. I would choose a Intel 6200 family that doesn't have bluetooth since it does say you should have bluetooth already.

    Also here that product page

    http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=282&m=G53SX&os=30&hashedid=xxkAXDZNmlXj3U41
     
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    With Asus notebooks, I don't usually run into a problem upgrading wifi cards.

    Haven't seen an issue with two radios (BT) either. But of course, YMMV.
     
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    I have the same problem anyone can find the best solution for us.
     
  19. Qing Dao

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    Please ignore everything StormJumper said here. I literally can't find anything in that paragraph that isn't complete nonsense. Asus doesn't whitelist cards, and ANY card that is the same form factor (half-mpcie or M.2) will work, regardless of what bands it uses or if it has bluetooth or not.
     
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    From a different direction, USB 2.0- 5.0GHZ wifi adapter, when I use mine it connects at 270MB/s ---270N--- Fast enough for Fiber Optic Speed of 200MB/s +, download the drivers for the adapter and have instant 5.0GHz connection......... My Adapter is 600MB/s -600N capable. --$25.00,,My Wifi Router 300N.

    Cheers
    3Fees :)

    I'd follow the Mod's advice.......
     
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  21. TomJGX

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    Agreed.. Never heard of Asus ever blacklisting wifi cards... I wouldn't have been able to upgrade my wifi card from 5200 to 5300 if that had been the case :D
     
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    Although with my devices I am still stuck at n I just got a Netgear ac-3200 tri-band router. Got to say it is great compared to the 9 year old Trendnet that died. Now it is getting about time to upgrade the laptops card to an AC.
     
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    Broadcom BCM43228 ( BCM943228HMB ) is great 300mbps card with bluetooth.

    usually connect at 300 mbps and throughput near 200 mbps
    at both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz
     
  24. TomJGX

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    Broadcom.. mehh.. I rather try my luck with the Killer 1525 or Intel 7260/7265 tbh... Broadcom wifi cards are not known for their reliability or performance...
     
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    Just a heads up. If you have a new router and plan a NAS be careful. With my new Ac-3200 I get great bandwidth and most everything is great but one big issue. I just purchased a 5TB usb 3.0 drive for NAS storage and DLNA. My issue cropped up when I had my primary laptop do a backup of data.

    The issue is DPC latency. Now that I can flood the 300mbit with data the latency went off the charts with my 6250 PCIe card. I was running the latest drivers but noticed after start up and with the backup running that over time it just kept creeping up. This was all noticed about 30 minutes in with audio cracks on a you tube video.

    I had just upgraded to the 15.15.0.1 but they were horrible. So I progressively downgraded back to 15.0.0.1 (Original drivers from the OEM). With these drivers I had some speed dropdowns to 240 and 270mbit so I went up to 15.3.1 and now 300mbit is hard-fast. While DPC latency with the wireless channel flooded still shows an occasional spike over 2000 us there are no issues and it never gets near the 8000 us I was seeing nor is there a progressive degradation.

    I think I will give up on data backup with my system as 200+gb at any one time is a bit much for a network to handle. My wonder now is there a wireless AC card with low DPC latency?

    Edit; adding a picture, wireless under no load, other than system, and full load.

    DPCL_6250_NL.jpg

    DPCL_6250_FL.jpg
     
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  26. dcrdev

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    Does anyone know if there's a half height pcie card based on the Killer 1525 chipset?
     
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    Hmm been searching around and came across the 1420, which is pcie half height, dual band and supports ac. Anyone know anything about them? I can only find dell manufactured cards though - are they likely to work on a non dell machine?

    Here's one:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Dell-...109?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf4e9f90d
     
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    This has nothing to do with Killer though. Killer is a brand belonging to Qualcomm Atheros and this card is clearly a Broadcom. It even mentions chipset in its name BCM4352

    As for your previous question - ther's is no Killer 1525 in pcie format, only M.2
     
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    This mini pcie 3x3
    No,but there's a Asus Broadcom 3x3 mini pcie
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/intel-7260.716325/page-44#post-9889650

    Be advised that the connectors on the BCM94360HMB mini pcie wireless card that's inside the ASUS WIFI GO 3T3R AW-CB160H are MHF4 that are much smaller than those on present mini pcie cards

    There's also an Apple with pcie adapter;
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Apple-i...504?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c9699ac28
     
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    I don't suppose there are any adapters for MHF4 type connector? I know I could replace the aerials - but on my laptop that would require removing the motherboard to be able to access them.
     
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    Can i upgrade Intel 7260 with BCM94360HMB ?
    Or Intel 7260 it's better , even if it's "old" card ?
    What it's the newest stable win7 driver for Intel 7260 ? I mean wifi driver and BT driver also .
    I have installed in my Asus notebook win 7 Ultimate , and i need to make a clean install of windows , but i'm afraid to do it because of win7 drivers .
    Can i save somehow to drivers what i have now in my windows 7 , and to use it with the new clean install , but to work everything , without to loose any driver . It's possible ?
     
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    It all comes down to what card interface your machine can take. PCIe or M.2.

    That said, they do make adapters.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/M2MP1-M-2-N...Adapter-Support-PCIe-Mini-Car-P-/301698586070
    You can convert a pcie to m.2. The issue however is antenna.
    If you have a desktop or mini ITX like I converted it's simple to replace the entire antenna and all.

    If you have laptop you have issue that you either have to pay someone to swap the antenna plug on the card or get converters or worse new antenna that you won't have a place to put and both of these second options will result in performance loss.

    The other option is replace the internal antenna with external ones, in that case you can get M.2 to SMA and hook desktop style antennas up hah.

    If you want to avoid all this your opations are stick with 7260 really.

    I have a 7260 in my windows 10 laptop and it runs fine though. Go to intel.com for latest drivers, they keep them fairly current. Last one is only few months old. Works on all windows.
     
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    I just swapped out my Intel 7260HMW for the BCM94360HMB and it works great. This is in a Clevo P150SM-A which already has the third antenna. All I had to do was use the U.FL to MHF4 adapters. Only problem now is finding the driver for Windows. It worked right away with both Ubuntu and OSX, but not Windows.
     
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    Asus Rampage V Edition 10 has the same chip on board, so you should pretty much be able to use the driver right off Asus support page ( http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/ROG-RAMPAGE-V-EDITION-10/HelpDesk_Download/)

    Direct link is here: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mi...173.zip?_ga=1.224743002.1524222716.1478402451

    Hardware page showing it has the same chip (AW-CB160H): https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/68...rt-jubileum-asus-rampage-v-edition-10-vervolg

    I have the AW-CE123H which is 2x2 stream not 3x3, and I used the link above to update my driver and saw a big boost in speed!

    V6.34.223.5

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    V7.35.317.3

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    About 100 Mbps gain from just a driver update :)