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    Am I plaged with bad routers?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by HopelesslyFaithful, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. HopelesslyFaithful

    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    I had a couple trendnets and swore i would never get anymore because they break or are messed up and utterly useless. So I swore I would always buy nothing but the best. So I bought the Netgear WNDR 3700 and it has been plaguing me with default gateway unreachable where you have to either discount and reconnect or trouble shoot every couple hours or sometimes every 2-5 mins!!! It seems that every router I buy is retarded or glitches out in a matter of 6-12 months (or ships as defective or poorly made). The netgear is well past warranty because I just kept using it with the glitches because i got no other options. I moved back home and using the wife's WNDR 2000 which is no where as good but at least works. Why have the last 3-4 routers been horrible or break in no time. Hell what is a 1 year warranty for when it breaks around a year for the best one! You would figure a 150 dollar router at the time would have more than a single year warranty.
     
  2. shadowarachh

    shadowarachh Notebook Evangelist

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    try flashing DD-WRT onto the 3700. ive been using this router since it released and i tried it the other day. wish i had done it sooner now.

    Router Database | www.dd-wrt.com
     
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    contradude Notebook Consultant

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    Going to second ddwrt. I have a trio of e1000 routers that are pretty bad on stock and have up times of >1 month on dd-wrt. Its easy to use and easy to flash.

    Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
     
  4. HopelesslyFaithful

    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    you really think it has to do with the firmware?
     
  5. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    It's not definitely firmware but that's one possibility that you can test quickly and for free.

    I wouldn't go for DD-WRT immediately. This particular firmware has been declining for years although it's still not bad. Make sure you have the most recent Netgear firmware first (it offers better performance compared to DD-WRT).

    If it doesn't help move to testing DD-WRT and my personal favorite- Gargoyle (OpenWRT based but a lot more user-friendly)
     
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    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    its fully updated the update said it would fix/improve connection but does nothing.
     
  7. leslieann

    leslieann Notebook Deity

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    All of these routers can't be bad (unless an outside influence caused it).

    I would start looking at your old modem and wires (cat5 and incoming wiring). I would also check out the electrical connection at the socket as well as the power bricks. Bad or low current can damage internal components as well, not to mention make things unstable.

    Considering they went bad over time after being bought, that hints to me at a bad electrical connection. Probably an under-current situation, which is just as harmful as a power spike over time. Some probably went bad sooner rather than later because of build quality.
     
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    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    nope happens with first trendnet worked for like 6 months and then stated the same issue this has on multiple computers via wireless and cable. The second trendnet had 500-3000ms latency...yea what the duce. So I just through it out because it was not worth the hassel when i got it for 20 bucks off shell shocker. This one i think only does the bad defualt gateway/unreachable via wireless.....if my memory serves me it might also do it wired but i haven't used wired in awhile. My wifes netgear WNDR 2000 works fine. So its the routers because if it was wireless card it would happen on the 2000 too


    EDIT: read your last sentence :) It could be bad power because power would flux and go out a lot where i used to lived. Although I always had these on surge protectors but I bed that doesn't help flux/lower current.
     
  9. leslieann

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    Correct, surge protectors do nothing in low current situations.
    Low power is very hard on the internal capacitors.

    Worse though is that some routers ship with power supplies that technically don't even meet the requirement of the internal hardware before you add a usb device or a low power condition. It's suspected that some of the early Netgear WNDR3700's were this way (fixed on later models I think), and I can guarantee you that the D-Link Dir-655 did, since putting a higher amp power supply somewhat stabilized the wireless signal (it still had/hass serious issues elsewhere). Some routers in the past have even hit the market with bricks that couldn't even properly power the radio chipset alone, much less the rest of the router.

    Where I live and work now, I regularly see offices and homes go through cheaper routers, switches and modems once a year or two, and I can pretty much say for certain it's due to terrible power regulation.


    I have run my main systems (and extras on it whenever I can) on UPS systems (battery backup) for the last 15 years after some things I noticed after buying my first one. After I put it on the UPS, it overclocked higher, was more stable and the parts lasted longer. Even overclocked, that Win98 system was more stable than most peoples Win2 and XP boxes years later, and that is saying a lot for Win98.
     
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    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    interesting...so dumb
     
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    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm with downloads on this one, bad power can kill a lot of electronic devices. Start using a good UPS on your hardware and most all of those issues will go away. I learned that lesson 30 yrs ago. Back then they were expensive compared to todays prices.
     
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    HopelesslyFaithful Notebook Virtuoso

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    ....i never had crappy power before until i had to move to a dump in another state but I moved back to IL so i am not too concerned now