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    All my clevo/alienware guys which network card have you got?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by Esaelias187, Jun 10, 2016.

  1. Esaelias187

    Esaelias187 Notebook Geek

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    i just sent mine back i have a clevo 870dm-g because it had a wireless killer 1535 and sometimes wouldnt connect so im getting the ac 8269 intel heard its better

    Wt do you guys have
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I have the Intel 7260, but I rarely use it as my system is almost always connected via Ethernet.
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Intel 8260.
     
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    I had the Intel AC8260 before but now I switched to the Killer AC 1535 after Killer Networks updated their drivers and made it much more stable. Bear in mind this is only when you install the drivers manually from device manager the Killer suite which includes the bandwidth control is kind of a hit or miss so I never install that.

    I switched back to the Killer-AC 1535 as it works better with my ASUS AC-5300 router and has MIMO support which the Intel one doesn't

    Overall, if you want a stable connection, the Intel would give you less headaches but the Killer has a bit of a performance edge if configured properly.
     
  5. Esaelias187

    Esaelias187 Notebook Geek

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    How much performance are we talking... I mainly dwnload things i dnt play online gaming
     
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    Intel 6300AGN, best nonAC wifi card out there.
     
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    Well, when I have my laptop in the living room (the router is in the bedroom), with the Intel AC8260, it can only connect @ 170MBPS or so. With the Killer AC 1535, I get the full 866 MBPS so it seems it has better range.

    Also the Killer hs a slightly lower ping rate when testing on speedtest.net but nothing too drastic.
     
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  8. Esaelias187

    Esaelias187 Notebook Geek

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    Im confused now.... As to should i exchange my wireless 1535 !

    Over the internet alot if ppl said it is stable the intel

    And they say the wireless killer drops connection

    The only problem i was havin was when i close the laptop lid and open it i had to restart computer or go in networks and disable and start network card

    So im
    Confused shall i stick with it or not
     
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  9. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Makes no sense.. I have the Killer 1525 card and haven't got any such issue.. Are proper drivers installed? My 1535 is pretty solid, very few dropped connections (maybe once or twice a month)...
     
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    never had that using Killer AC1535 WLAN Driver v12.0.0.230

    uninstall the suite if you have it then reboot, then manually install the drivers from device manager by pointing to the correct location

     
  11. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Intel AC 7260 with Bluetooth.
     
  12. ZeneticX

    ZeneticX Notebook Evangelist

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    Is it true the Killer AC 1535 is just a rebranded Qualcomm Atheros card?

    Don't get me wrong i have no issues with mine so far but I'm just curious because I've check in device manager and properties, it states the driver is provided by Qualcomm
     
  13. downloads

    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    It is indeed and it always was. QCA hardware + software that did next to nothing sold at a premium price.
    That's what it is - it will prioritize gaming traffic by which they mean that it will prioritize UDP traffic from you own computer over TCP traffic from your own computer.
     
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    Yes...that's exactly what it is. I have a "Killer 1103" which in reality is the Atheros AR9380, which has more stable drivers than the ones Killer provides.
     
  15. Ethrem

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    I have the 7260 myself and I would never purchase a machine that had Killer.
     
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    Always been an Intel guy, 5300+7260N+7265AC. Only time I used Atheros and Broadcom was for OSx86 compatiblity :p
     
  17. Mr.Koala

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    @OP
    Did you mean Intel 8260/8265? There's no 8269.

    @Everyone
    Which card will you recommend for an old system with miniPCIe slots?
     
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    Killer AC 1535 for me.

    This thread is very typical of what you will see. Most people love one or the other, and have had problems with one or the other. I've seen complaints of disconnects on Killer cards for years on various systems. However I have always had better luck with Killer cards, and always get random disconnects form Intel cards. This includes issues I've had on the Intel cards in my Lenovo work laptops.

    I think the routers you connect to may have something to do with this, at least with some users. My router(s) I have may just not work as well with the Intel cards.

    *edit* My router is a ~1 year old higher end Linksys AC router and I always connect at 866mbps which is the max the router will do no matter where I am in my house.
     
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    @Mr.Koala Intel 7260 if you are planning on using 802.11ac or at least you're using 5GHz band or Intel 6200/6300 if you don't feel like upgrading your router to 802.11ac anytime soon.
     
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    Intel Advanced-N + WiMAX 6250AGN-----> upgraded to Intel AC 7260.
     
  21. Krowe

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    7260AC for miniPCIe, 8260AC for M.2

    Intel over Killer/Atheros because Intel cards are typically cheaper and you can buy them in bulk.

    As for dropping connections... Well that is highly situational, because Intel and Atheros have different approaches to signal interference and weak signals. You can't really say one is better than the other because wireless communication at the consumer level is a crap-shoot. It's all dependent on antenna design/ placement in both the laptop and router, as well as building layout and the materials used in the build.
     
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    I have a 6300N ultimate with 3 antennas, my router (AC 5Ghz) is located at the first floor and my laptop in on the other side of the house at the second floor.

    I got around 43mbs with 3/4 bar signal.

    If I buy the Intel 7260AC, someone is able to tell me if I will have better coverage and speed even thus it has only 2 antennas?

    Someone could recommend Killer cards for my situation?

    Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk
     
  23. downloads

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    What you are really asking is will it have better range - it will not.
    Three antennas do not increase range - in theory three antennas could increase coverage (as in less blind-spots within range) but that does not happen either because the antennas are too close.

    You might end up with better speed with 7260 but only if you use 802.11ac and only because you will get roughly the same percent of max throughput you now get but max throughput will be higher.

    It's possible that 2.4GHz band will give you better results though - due to its better ability to penetrate obstacles and not fade bu that much while doing so.
     
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    ExMM Notebook Evangelist

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    I was waiting for your reply downloads, thank you so much! ;)

    I thought so, infact I set up my router with 2.4Ghz band and its working way better than 5Ghz, my router by the way has a crappy 5Ghz performance:

    http://buffalo.jp/product/wireless-lan/ap/wxr-1900dhp/

    I think I will definitely buy the 7260, as I need a good upgrade for gaming online.

    Is there any particular wifi card that you recommend which is good gaming, how about the new 8260?
     
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  25. Krowe

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    What socket do you have? 7260AC is typically sold in mPCIe form factors, although M.2 versions exist. If you have an M.2 Slot, I'd go for an 18620. That one came with my new Latitude 7470, and its a Tri-band. Works great so far.
     
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    I believe 7260 is miniPCIe and 7265 is the M.2/NGFF counterpart?
     
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    I have a Clevo P170SM and my current wifi card is using the mPCIe slot, althought I have one more mSATA slot avaliable next to it, would that be compatible with the M.2?
     
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    No.

    MiniPCIe and M.2 don't go into each other.
     
  29. Krowe

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    There is a 7260AC M.2 Version, I'm using it as a shim at the moment though lol (and yes, its dead).

    If you have mPCIe slot, get the 7260AC, I believe its one of the last ones made by Intel in that form factor.

    M.2 in theory can be refitted to a mPCIe/mSATA form factor with an adapter, but you'll need to be sure that its electrically compatible (the slots are the same, not necessarily true for signalling traces). You'd also have to find a way to reroute the antenna wires and connectors over to the mSATA slot, which ain't gonna be easy.

    If you're that adamant about getting better wireless, doesn't hurt to try the 7260AC. But honestly, I'd get an external USB WiFi dongle with one of those high gain antennas, we have one glued to one of our field units, antenna's twice the height of the notebook, works great (but is ugly).

    Merely my $0.02
     
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    Thanks for your help, the USB Wifi dongle sounds good but is not really portable or I mean aesthetically yes it ugly, but I will look more into it.

    Probably the 7260AC it still the best option for me so far. :D

    Thanks again anyway!
     
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    How is something the size of a tiny USB thumb drive not portable?