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    ADSL Modem - worth buying a router for bandwith management?

    Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by happyhour01, Dec 23, 2012.

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    happyhour01 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,

    I have just bought a TP-LINK TD-W8951ND(ADSL modem). I am really a newbie when it comes to wireless confirguration, so some help would be great!

    From my readings, I have come the conclusion that this modem is bad for bandwith management like for example, sister netflix having a huge impact over my online latency.

    Therefore, would buying a gaming router to manage WiFi be recommendable?

    If so, any recomendation on which to buy? I really need something that can divide my bandwith (5mbps) in half or have a good QOS/throttling capabilities. Also if this "gaming" router could be used as a repeater, that would be great.


    Thanks in advance!
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I don't think it makes sense to buy a separate router at this point. If you wanted to build such a setup you should have bought an ADSL modem-only solution and a router on top of that.
    You still can bridge your modem/router and attach a router to this setup but you would be over-paying for that slightly.

    I would try to set up QoS and see how it performs.

    If that doesn't cut it the best solution is a router that supports Gargoyle firmware (i.e. TP-Link TL-WR1043ND). This allows you to set up quotas for users- i.e. you can use the Internet at full speed on certain days, or everyday but at certain hours or at full speed until a daily/monthly quota is met and then throttled.

    Gargoyle has a very powerful yet easy to set-up bandwidth control utility.

    In future don't buy combo devices. Third party firmwares (DD-WRT, OpernWRT, Tomato, Gargoyle etc.) do not work and will not work on devices with ADSL SoC.
    Therefore you can't install any firmware other than a factory one on your device and you would have to buy a separate router just to install it and use features you need.
     
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    happyhour01 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Alright, so I think I will buy that TP-Link TL-WR1043ND to connect it to my current modem/router. Will I experience any decrease of wifi when connecting through that router(while not using gargoyle)?


    Also, could I use this router be used as a repeater yet still use gargoyle?
     
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    No- not really. Each firmware has its strengths and weaknesses but stock TP-Link firmware is good to the point that I wouldn't recommend switching from it to a 3rd party one unless you need specific features that are not available in stock firmware.
     
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    happyhour01 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks Downloads. But as for using it as a repeater for the second floor, can I use it with gargoyle aswell?
     
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    You can use a router with Gargoyle as a repeater but I don't understand how it's supposed to be set up.
    You would have a wireless router attached to a bridged modem and that router would also work as an access point.
    Then you would need another Wi-Fi router to work as a repeater.
     
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    I'll try to explain how my setup would be. Tell me if it is correct.
    My dsl line is in the first floor therefore my modem/router is connected from there. Since we all use our computers in the second floor, a repeater to extend the signal should be placed in the second floor. I would try to cable the dsl line so that I could use the modem there, but my parents don't want to.

    In case I can't use it as a repeater with gargoyle functionality what about this setup:

    ADSL modem ->wire connection-> TP-Link TL-WR1043ND. From there I use a repeater I have spared for the second floor and connect it to the TP-Link TL-WR1043ND(first floor) .

    So, while TP-Link TL-WR1043ND has gargoyle, will the spared repeater in the second floor work with gargoyle bandwith management?
     
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    Repeater doesn't have any impact on bandwidth management on the router so it would be fine.

    It could be possible to use your old modem in a bridge mode and TP-Link TL-WR1043ND as a router and set your new modem/router on the second floor as a repeater only.
     
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    Hey really thanks for your help! I will seek for a Technic guy to set me up this plan. Hope it works so everyone gets a more fair bandwith.