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    its alive... gx620 with the 3870 installed

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by zfactor, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. zfactor

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    ill take some pics a bit later but yes its installed and yes it works flawless. temps are AWESOME. check this out!! t9900 and the 3870...

    ill run some tests later on and see how well it does. the mounting of the card i may revise since im not really happy with the way i had to mount it. but its working and running fine so i guess for now its okay.

    what i did is get the heatsink for the gx627 and trimmed it down to fit, then cut out a small part of the one memory sink to fit around something. i remove the backplate from the old card and cut off the cornersso i could use those as the "anchors" i also re used the black plastic double sided to the back of the 9600. i cut out bit enough pieces to cover the anchors i made so they dont touch the board. i used some clear double sided tape to tape the plastic first to the card then another piece to hold the anchors on while i installed the card. dropped the heatsink in and screwed everything down. my fear was the anchors may had turned just a bit to hit something on the under side of the board and short it out so i held my breath and turned it on. and it fired right up. i even re-tightened the heatsink screws to make sure they were nice and snug but not cranked down all the way. it does not feel like the anchors are turning so for now ill leave it.

    what i want to do soon is somehow make a bracket to go under the card with the 4 holes in it to secure to the heatsink. rob at rk sent me a plastic backer used for the cards in shipment but it turned out to be way to deep with the plastic and the screw heads for the card to sit back down right. and today the only screws i could find were 1/2" at lowes that fit but they ended up being to long so i could not go that way.

    anyway see the screen for my idle temps so far this is about 20 min after turned it on while i was browsing and running hardware monitor and just messing with it..

    WAY better than the 9600 already though
     

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  2. Cobra03

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    Thats great z, now play a game and see what the temps jump to.
     
  3. zfactor

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    what temps do you get??

    also what nuts and bolts did you use do you remember the length of them and the size?? id like to redo this soon just so i feel better about it being more secure
     
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  5. zfactor

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    be careful the second one is a slave card we had some of those that can not be flashed to master at all.

    also some pics:
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  6. Rorschach

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    Congrats z nice performance in a 15.4 package. Sure looks like a tight fit in that second picture :D
     
  7. zfactor

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    newest version of it should show you also i use the 64 bit one
     
  8. zfactor

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    yeah just makes it in there but it fits no problem. just playing with some video encoding and the temps only hit 52 and the t9900 got to 55 highest i saw, running very cool!!!
     
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    Well it just needs a quadcore and then your set :D.
     
  10. zfactor

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    yeah im going to borrow a q9100 this weekend to see if that works. if not ill stay with the t9900 i see no reason for a x9100 in this thing.. still wish i could find a real backplate though just so i feel better
     
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    Well if it runs fine while gaming I don't see any reason you should need one lol. Heck so far it looks like it might work even better :D
     
  12. zfactor

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    well i just dont want the corners i cut off the 9600 one to be turned at all from screwing them in and take a chance of them touching one of the components on the underside if you know what i mean.. what i may do is pull them back off and grind em down to be perfect circles this way if they turn they should not damage anything though i did cut them pretty small and tried to leave a good amount of room around them. and they have the black plastic under them between them and the board. but yeah awesome temps.. lower than the 9600 actually so far
     
  13. Darth Bane

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    I was able to get a stable OC of 3.67ghz with the t9900 on the gx720 (set turbo to 20% in bios), so you should get similar results.
     
  14. zfactor

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    we dont have those settings in our bios.. we can only use whatever the default turbo is set to..

    wow seriously guys the 9600 now feels like it was a intel 4500 compared to how this is running and im only using the win7 factory drivers right now without the full suite or anything
     
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    That's a bumper. Well if you want a serious OC or plan on OC a quad, you could flash to the barebone bios/firmware and use setfsb. Setfsb doesn't work with the standard bios with the turbo feature.

    The 9600m isn't bad. But at high resolution, the difference is unbelievable.
     
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    okay something is wierd though my temps are perfect. 3dmark06 they never even touched 60.. but a dismal score of only 6k???? im changing the drivers out now and hopefully that will fix it..
     
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    6k means something is wrong. When I installed a 9800m gt in the gx720, it couldn't provide the extra 5watts the 9800m gt needed, so it ran at reduced clocks. But the 3870 uses less power then a 160m so that's not the issue. My bets on driver issue.
     
  18. zfactor

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    okay wow. i tried the mobilty 9.9 cant find the card. tried mobmod 9.11 installed and rebooted and screen goes psycho like waves of color almost like the screen is bleeding. so i shut down in safe more removed all drivers. rebooted and it install the wdm 1.1 driver fine. but scores only 5986 3dmark06..

    cobra what driver are you using and how did you get it to install?? guess this may be going back for sale if i cant get any drivers to work with this system.. this sucks
     
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    well yeah. not sure from here.the only driver that works is the windows installed one. if i try to use any other driver they simply dont work the screen almost looks as if its bleeding (the only way i can describe it) right after the driver kicks in during install.. this plain sucks

    and man when its running on the "standard vga" driver everything gets roasting hot for some reason. now i have to hope this didnt do any damage to my lcd trust me the way it looked was not pretty at all
     
  20. Cobra03

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    I used the newest drivers from ati site, You have to use mobility modder and then install that way when there done modding. I got 10,799 in 3dmark06. You could also install just the drive after you mod it through the device manager. try and install the newest drivers, these are great cards and I have to agree its 4x better than the 9600m GT. They overclock really good too. I have clocked mine high, 656/1018, that was the highest I ever went. I did play crysis on high without any lag with a mild oc.
     
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    The 3870 is only 55 watts so the power isnt the problem, its more than likely the drivers. I wouldnt worry to much.
     
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    I cant wait to see if your system can hold the q9100!!! please keep us updated, nice to see that the 3870 is working (just needs some drivers). :D
     
  23. Rorschach

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    z you got pms. I hate radeon drivers I've always had problems with them. Isn't there a website like laptopvideo2go that already mods the drivers for you?
     
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    okay so far the 9.9 mobility ones are working. new 3dmark06 10506 but the heat now oh the heat.... no wonder why it was so nice and cool before. now the temps are WAY higher than before the card idles around 55-58 but this brings my t9900 up to 38-39 at idle from a cool under 30 temp before. the gpu got to about 85 in 3dmark and the t9900 to 72 was the high i saw... a bit to much heat imo. im not sure how they run the 9800gs on this very same heatsink it has to run at least as hot. but the gpu is now reading the right speeds so it is not downclocking on battery or plugged in.

    guess ill end up selling this card and heatsink if anyone is interested ill make you a sweet deal..i need this system for daily use and i think this will be a bit much heat for me to deal with. i was so excited when i saw the original temps i could not believe it...

    edit re ran again 10503 so it seems right now..
     

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    My high OC 160m reaches to the low 80's during gaming and the qx9300 goes to the 70's when gaming as well. I don't think those temps are too bad. What thermal paste do you use? I highly recommend that diamond thermal paste. Maybe the gpu heatsink isn't on tight enough?
     
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    ocz freeze and trust me its on plenty tight thing i dont like is my idle temps now. i went from around 28-29 to almost 38-40 idle with my t9900
     
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    What temps do you get with real games? I think those temps are fine. It's not like it will be that high during normal usage, only when gaming.


    Btw, what do you do with 8 laptops, lol.
     
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    yeah we have way to many systems lol... ill try out a few games.... but all i can say is wow 10k is awesome.
     
  29. Rorschach

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    lol zfactor your just used to 17" cooling performance. I bet normal gaming it will stay around 80c. I remember reading in another section for people that upgraded their laptops to a 4670, that the voltage was much higher than needed. It could be the same thing for your 3870.
     
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    Was the 10k with it overclocked?
     
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    Could this card word in the Asus C90? I believe there is physically enough room for a mxm III card.
     
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    Its not really a matter of room as it is how much power the connector puts out. I don't think anyone on the forums has tried a mxm 3 gpu in the c90 model before? You should ask the reseller that tested the gt 240 to test some mxm 3 gpus for you. If they can test a 8700m gt and it works it might just be possible for your laptop to support the 3870.