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    Xotic is shipping the gt series with bf4 now.

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Yeep, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. Yeep

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    Three days after I paid for my order :/ lol. Oh well.

    The gt series is already a great deal, coming with the hot new FPS is a great kicker to the package.
     
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    BF4 plays great on the GT60/70 with the GTX780m. The only complaint is that it runs the computer ragged temperature wise. We're talking the system temp hitting 97C and GPU at 93C if the fan isn't set on turbo (ambient 20C). Temps drop to about 83-85 C with the turbo fan enabled.

    BF4 is one of those games that hammers both CPU and GPU at the same time.
     
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    Try repasting
     
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    I have had 2 different machines with Diamond paste, and their thermals have been similar.

    So either they have both been pasted badly, which is a possibility, or it's simply how the machine performs under load.

    Given the numbers I have seen from other posts, it appears to be in line; BF4 runs the machine hotter than any other game in my library.
     
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    Damn, oh well.
     
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    I'd check the thermal pad placements.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's pasted. Whomever worked on my machine accidentally dabbed a bit of it on the exterior of the heatsink with grey compound.

    I'm not sure how the memory module thermal pads would affect the thermals of the GPU and CPU, especially the latter and the fact that the temperature probes don't measure memory temps. I wouldn't mind checking if it wasn't for the fact that I would have to repaste the machine after removing the heatsink.
     
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    If a thermal pad is folded over itself this will lever the entire heatsink up and move the core contact pad upwards.

    Thermal pad thickness and placement on the MSI heatsinks is of massive importance.
     
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    ... Well, better dig out the AS5 and find some time to reseat my heatsinks...
     
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    Just repasted and reseated the heatsinks and thermal pads. GPU temp remains about 93C while playing BF4, but CPU temps dropped 6C down to 90C. Since it's AS5, it hasn't had proper burn in yet. I'll be looking forward to seeing how the temps level out.
     
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    You can replace the pads with high performance 0.5mm ones if you still want to improve it.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 4, 2013
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    Do you have any recommendations on which brands to look for? Some of the pads look like they need replacing, so I'm definitely in the market for replacements.

    I had thought about using copper shims and using Arctic Thermal Adhesive to mount them, but it seems like it'd be too much work, especially since the height clearance varies.

    Temps also dropped while using Turbo fan, by another 5-8C on both CPU and GPU.
     
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    No shims needed if you use the thinner 0.5mm pads, phobya works as does fuji poly.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 5, 2013
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    Should I pay attention to the Shore rating? The 11W/mk stuff is quite a bit softer than the 17W/mK for Fujipoly. Given how thin some of the thermal pads have compressed, I'm thinking that the harder stuff might put stress on the components.
     
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    Just get the 5w/mk phobya since so long as the pads make contact the cooling performance is not critical.
     
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    Seems I just received back home some 0.5 pads. I want to change pads and repaste, should I use all 0.5 pads on the entire heatsink?

    Damm bad timming from my part. I am full of work for the following two weeks. It's going to be torture to have all the things I need ready, but not time to make the repaste/repad :(
     
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    Haha, it's always the way, but yes all 0.5mm is what I have used.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 6, 2013
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    Alright thanks! I shall post impressions later to see if there was an improvement.
     
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    I saw quite a difference so I look forward to your results.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Nov 6, 2013
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