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    Wish list: Removable battery

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by etcetera, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    I like GT80 Titan SLI *but* the fixed non user-removable battery is a major oversight given the low runtime to begin with. so if you are traveling, would be good to keep a second, backup battery with you to instantly swap it in. Also the 8-cell battery is also unacceptable, given the power requirements, it needs to be at least 10-cell.
    most other full size laptops are 9-cell with the 6-cell compact version available.

    That is one thing that Dell got right with their XPS series, where the battery can be removed in a nanosecond and a spare one inserted. this is really convenient on a plane, in a library or some place where charging is not available. I can see myself carrying 2 spare batteries for a serious project.
     
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    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    Thats a perk usually exclusive to business oriented machines.
     
  3. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Batteries are heavy and expensive. For a light duty laptop, especially one that needs staying power in the field, that makes sense. But for a large desktop replacement models (like the GT series) that pretty much needs AC power for its intended uses anyway, there's not as much of a point to it.
     
  4. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    The GT Titan series 17" laptops already have removable batteries.
    It's possible to find a genuine MSI battery online, but VERY difficult.

    Your best bet is to email tom ho (tomh (at) msi (dot) com) and ask him politely if you can order a replacement battery for your laptop. Keep in mind it will most likely come from China (that's where the replacement heatsinks come from; fans are easily available in the USA and locally), and will cost you a pretty penny.

    There was an ebay shop that had access to a local MSI warehouse and had a genuine GT73VR battery for sale but they wanted over $150 for it...
     
  5. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    GT80 Titan could be taken in the field if the batteries were user-removable. Because they are not, it's tied to the desk kind of like a desktop computer. If the batteries were removable, it would get new uses in the field. *That* is the point. I would take mine on a plane in that case and if the battery ran out, swap in another one quickly. If the flight is 8 hours, you could get close to 6 hours of runtime with 2 spares.

    Batteries are expensive but not as expensive as getting a second, light and long-running laptop - and you still have to buy software and Windows 10 for it and misc things so in the end having a desktop machine *and* a travel machine is ultimate more expensive.

    If what you said was true, then why does it need a battery to begin with? If it's married to the outlet. I like GT80 Titan but probably won't buy another MSI machine unless they start making user-swappable batteries.
     
  6. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    Take a look at the Dell L702x for what I mean. The battery is removed in a nano-second and a spare one is inserted and you are back in business without having to worry about stupid chargers. L702x is not a business class machine, it's a multi-media performance machine and not cheap at all like most business class models.
    My L702x is 6 years old and I cannot retire it yet because the latest-greatest MSI machines lack that functionality. It's slower, the screen is not as nice, etc. yet that functionality is just awesome.
     
  7. Falkentyne

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    I know what you're talking about.
    There was a post or article some months or years ago explaining why no modern "high end" laptops have removable batteries, and why you can't have them in Clevos, Alienwares, MSI's, eVGA or anything recent. Something to do with electrical tolerances with a snap in connection, as well as casings. I don't remember what was said.
     
  8. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No you wouldn't because unless you're flying first/business class on an international flight, it's not going to fit on a tray table. A 15-inch MacBook Pro or similar is about the practical limit for coach and first class on most commuter flights.
     
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    Its also not a DTR like the GT80.

    What you are technically asking for is the X1 Carbon I think.
     
  10. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    GT80 is too heavy for users to use it on the go especially personal time off. Business, maybe but then those area sometimes have power, or power generator.
    Replaceable battery is nice but it does not offer that kind of caliber when it's on the AC power. So if you need the horsepower then you need AC, otherwise you can use a lighter system (weaker) to get the job done if you don't need all that raw power.
    I remember some companies actually build Xeon-powered rugged system and they didn't need to run off the battery power at all.