Where to buy MXM 1080 for ms gt73 titan

Hey guys,

Just picked one of these up. It has a 1070 and I am not going to buy a 1080 or a volta mxm gpu any time soon but where should I look?

All the threads on here point to euro com and ebay and they're charging as much as the laptop cost me for the 1080mxm...

I understand a premium being on a 1080 mxm but currently a 1080mxm is 2x the cost of a 1080ti. thats insane.

I just want to be prepared on where to look for upgrades when I want to.

 

I found a 1080 for 800 bucks in china. Still way over priced but thats a premium I can understand considering desktop versions got for about 60 percent of that. I really hope volta doesnt have these wild prices/ is compatible with the gt 73 titan...

 

You can get the 1080 MXM card from one of the Chinese internet sellers like aliexpress or banggood. Probably best to use a taobao agent if you can find it on taobao directly. However you need to be aware of two things:

1) The MSI 1080 has more than one layout. Make SURE the one you buy matches the layout for the GT73VR!
2) The 1070 heatsink and VRM sink is NOT compatible with the 1080. You will need to buy the GPU heatsink and VRM sink assembly somewhere else. (if you DO find a place to buy these, legitly, please tell me where you got them because I might want one too). MSI has been all over form factors. The GT72s 980m needed a slight modification to use a 1070 for the heatsink to work, and the 1070 used in the GT72VR is a different format than the 1070 used in the Gt73VR. And the 1080 uses a different form factor too.

At least he MSI GTX 1070 in the GT73VR uses a 'standard' form factor.

 

I have the vr

MSI GT73VR 7RE

if that matters.

 

I know that. I have the exact same thing. My 1070 is TDP modded to 185W.

This is the card you have:



This is the GTX 1080 in the GT73VR 7RF:



http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/mxm-gpu-resellers-in-the-world.804197/page-7

As you can see the 1070 heatsink and VRM sink will not fit this layout.
You need the 1080 heatsink and VRM sink.

Fun fact: the MSI mainboard is 100% identical. So is the Bios and EC firmware. Only difference is the video card.

If you buy the 1080, you will ALSO need the power connector for it. The 1070 does not have one. I suggest you make 100% sure any source comes with that power connector. While the 1070 can run at 200W without it, I do NOT know if the 1080 can.

 

Piece of advice: if the 1080 is going to cost you $800 or more, don't even bother buying it. It's not worth it. Instead, spend the $50 and just TDP mod your 1070
All you need are 1) replacement 1mm arctic thermal pads, 2) Grizzly Kryonaut or Phobya Nanogrease Extreme (you can use Liquid metal but you need to follow all precautions, kapton tape or nail polish over the SMD resistors and then use the "Foam barrier" trick on top of that, 3) Pomona 5250 IC clip, 4) 1.8v adapter (required), 5) Skypro HW programmer 6) male to female cable jumper assembly for connecting the Pomona clip to the 1.8v adapter. (Like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DC74A9Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )

I would not go past 195W TDP directly through the MXM slot. The 1070 card is capable of handling 250W (!) for benchmark runs, but only the Clevo has been tested (by @Khenglish ) to be able to deliver 258W of power directly through the MXM slot. The MSI MXM slot is electrically rated up to 195W of burst power, so I would not go past it I've used 185W on mine and left it running for hours with no problem.

You won't get 1080 performance with 195W TDP+overclock, but you will get VERY close to it, for a fraction of the cost. A 185W GTX 1070 running at +180/+600 (Core/RAM) can score 21500 in Firestrike Graphics test. Not far from lower end 1080's. A lot cheaper this way, you won't have to worry about heatsinks and VRM sinks, but you WILL need to buy the Delta 330W PSU. The PSU will be the most expensive part of a TDP mod upgrade. You will ALSO need to use a program called "RW Everything", and go to the 'EC' tab and go to hex offset E3, and change the default value there from 90 to 91 (this sets the power limit at 330W, a GTX 1080 power system ID. Failure to do this will cause CPU throttling if you exceed 230W total system power). You must do this every windows boot. You can write a batch file to do it for you, which I can explain about later.


http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/mobile-pascal-tdp-tweaker-update-and-feedback-thread.806161/

P.S. I don't think ANY MSI user has TDP modded the 1080 video cards. Only the clevo owners have. Most people who are modding are modding the much cheaper 1070's, as they are very robust cards (the clevo is slightly more powerful) and can handle much higher TDP than default. The pascal editor has a 258W preset for GTX 1080's, but it is unknown and untested what will happen if you exceed 330W system power with the 1080 power ID. Exceeding 230W with the 1070 ID will cause CPU Power limit 2 throttling (overriding the settings in the Bios), but 1070 users have the 1080 power ID to take advantage of in RWEverything. 1080 users do not have a higher power profile (Unless with SLI, and SLI (power x2) does not seem to be set via the EC directly and no one has tested >330W AC power draw on a 7RF/6RF. If going past 330W will cause CPU power throttling to 45W (and then 25W), then TDP modding the 1080 will get you nowhere. But again--no one has tested this yet--only on Clevos, which can draw unlimited power with Prema mods.

 

This is some really cool info. In all honesty, since you can sell the 1070s for around 600 or more id probably just sell my 1070 and buy the 1080. But I am expecting a year or 2 at least with this 1070. Next upgrade will be a tigerlake or zen 2 laptop.

I was hoping the mxm gpu system would be similar to desktops with a slight premium. I am a bit disappointed there.

Where can you get the power brick?

 

this is the psu? https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Adapter-DA330PM111-ADP-330AB-332-1432/dp/B00CGA5JQM

 

thermal pads? https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Therm...49515&sr=8-1&keywords=1mm+arctic+thermal+pads

the grease? https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Griz...d=1509249561&sr=1-2&keywords=Grizzly+Kryonaut

the clip: https://www.amazon.com/CPT-063-Test-Clip-SOIC8-Pomona/dp/B00HHH65T4

Cant find the rest if this is even correct. Has anyone made a video on how to achieve this?

 

Wrong pin size. Correct PSU but wrong pin. It's a 4 pin one. You're best off ordering it from a MSI reseller directly. It may be available on ebay but I didn't see it on amazon.

The pads work although I bought the 145 x 145mm one.
Grease and paste are correct.

The programmer is called a "Skypro USB Programmer" and you need the 1.8v adapter for it too.

The jumper cables I linked let you hook the pomona clip directly to the 1.8v adapter. You should read the pascal editor thread fully also.

 

This just seems a little overwhelming. Im searching for a guide for our laptop and I can't find one. I have a strong feeling i'd fry something. Ive built pc's for years but this has me worried.

 

You won't fry anything. if you've ever built your own computer from scratch, it's even easier than that.
The only risk is static shock and i'm sure you know how to deal with that.
I did it myself and i thought I would break something also and after i had the right instructions it worked. And I had never done anything like that before (except flash a monitor firmware with a SPI VGA/DVI programmer).

As I said, please read the pascal editor thread I linked before you start getting scared.


These are all the things you need.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DC74A9Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KYK2DR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZC36GY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And Kryonaut and some replacement thermal pads.

Then read the main pascal thread I mentioned.

 

I am reading it. Il keep going its sort of long.

 

Check our website - Upgrade section - there are all 10 series cards listed there including MXM3 MSI 1080.

 

I appreciate you taking the time but the 1080 is 1300 bucks... Thats 1000 dollars less than my laptop that has a 1070 and a 7820hk...
I expected a premium for the mxm 1080 but its 3 times the desktop price. Thanks but il just wait and buy a new laptop in 2 or 3 years or order from china :/ (not that I want to but I found msi 1080s for 800 usd)

 

Just focus on getting the TDP mod done. The most expensive part of that is the 330W PSU, which is a pain to obtain but a lot easier than trying to source the 1080 heatsink.
Once you get that all done you'll be very glad you saved money on that route. If you use 150W-185W (Target - Limit) TDP range + the arctic 1mm pads, you will like the performance boost. Just don't go past 195W unless someone else determines what the MSI mainboard can deliver. The MXM slot itself is electrically designed for a maximum of 195W, although the Clevo can deliver 258W directly to the slot. Without an overclock, the 1070 card can draw up to 235W before it stops reaching the TDP limit (you're limited to 200W via the "1070 preset" button in the editor (via the advanced power limits); to exceed 200W, you would have to use the 1080 "preset" button (e.g. open a MSI 1080 vbios in the editor, press the preset button, and look at the extreme power limits in mW). With the 1070 "Preset" button, the advanced power limits are set to the defaults for the 1080 (200W maximum).

The 1070 vbios is on the MSI website (us.msi.com), as the global one only has the GT73EVR now. You open the vbios, click "preset" (this is required so the max allowable TDP becomes 200W, the stock for the 1080), then change target to 151W and limit to 170W (stock for desktop cards) up to 195W (don't go higher than 195W. 185W is 100% safe), and increase the boost clock throttling temp (I set mine at 80C). NVflash won't flash a modded Bios, that's where the programmer comes in.

The 1080 card has an auxiliary power connector, although I'm not sure why if the slot can handle 195W.

 

Can you make a complete tutorial post with pictures and share with everyone? This looks like an excellent example/mod of the year.

 

There's a huge thread in the Sager Clevo section on it already.

 

Yes, but yours is made for MSI users.

 

Its the same instructions for any system. Even for Alienwares.
The MSI problem is the AC power limits flag in EC RAM (register E3), which can be changed if (and only if) the MSI mainboard model has a 330W PSU configuration (GTX 1080). I don't know how this affects 45W (HQ) CPU's, maybe I'll test that if I'm bored (using an wrong power ID forces a hard TDP cap).

Ok using an 'unsupported' power ID (I set it to "00" at 4.5 ghz, with 4 thread prime95 + Witcher 3 running, GPU @ 185W) forces the CPU to either TDP (45W) or to its non turbo multiplier, but not below the non turbo multiplier. If TDP is higher than 45W (e.g. 50W), CPU will be set to 2900 mhz (7820HK). Battery drain was silly though.

 

Same problem but with 1070 for gt72s. Where can I buy it in reasonable price?
Which model I should look for? There are 120w, 150w, woodzstack has a 115w on his fb page.

 

Hey guys,

I bought the laptop on reddit.com/r/hardwareswap the guy scammed me.

He had confirmed trades with super high traded members in the last week. He sent me a damn broken hp laptop lol from like 2006. Luckily I paid via paypal with invoices. Should have my money before the end of the month. Back on the look for a new laptop.

 

Wait, The Gt73VR you were going to mod was a broken HP from 2006?....

Did you already order the SPI flashing tools for it.....?

 

No I didn't order them. Were good there. Yeah he just straight up put the hp in there. Its a fraud. Paypal will have it settled in 2 or so weeks and I am contacting US mail about fraud. He used his real information -_-

 

How do you know that was his real information?

 

I am not 100 percent but they used a verified paypal and the names and address when you google them come up the same they happen to have worked or are working at a pc recycling company The exact place you'd get a crap laptop like this.

 

Check our website UPGRADE section MSI Configurator and see what GPU options are there.

 

Correction, wasnt his real info. Found the guy he was impersonating.

 

He did have a bank account connected in miami. What an odd fellow. Well reported to USPS mail fraud. I hope they catch him Paypal should handle my money claim for now. I will get my money just in time for black friday. Any deals?